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India is a country full of myths wonderous beleafs, and superstitions.

On the same token some aspects of history facts get exaggerated and tuned in to myths.

The story of 1699 as fallen foul of this and everyone beleves it.

Most sikhs belive that Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji asked for five heads as a test of courage. Things have ben circulated such a he took the heads in to a tent and done acts such as chopping a sheeps head, then proudcing a sword with dripping blood to show to the congregation .

This is an exmple of a factual story turned into a myth.

The fact is that the Panj Pyra were SELECTED due being of different caste.

...hasnt anyone questiond the myth, that the ones that offered heads were of different caste,... conincidence.

They were SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE KHALSA

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India is a country full of myths wonderous beleafs, and superstitions.

On the same token some aspects of history facts get exaggerated and tuned in to myths.

The story of 1699 as fallen foul of this and everyone beleves it.

Most sikhs belive that Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji asked for five heads as a test of courage. Things have ben circulated such a he took the heads in to a tent and done acts such as chopping a sheeps head, then proudcing a sword with dripping blood to show to the congregation .

This is an exmple of a factual story turned into a myth.

The fact is that the Panj Pyra were SELECTED due being of different caste.

...hasnt anyone questiond the myth, that the ones that offered heads were of different caste,... conincidence.

They were SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE KHALSA

Veerji,

We can sit there and attempt to authenticate what we term as “myths” in order for us to feel an event is more believable. I personally don’t think that kind of thinking will have any benefit to ones jevans. The thirst for Amrit comes from within and is based on our own past karams, actions and deeds. Each of us our responsible for our distance from the ultimate truth.

Yes, there was a selection process, driven by Sri Akal Purkah. Not based on caste, status, colour or gender but based on their previous dharmic kamai. The outer body is only our vehicle and as Bhagat Namdev tells us

Ka-oo Karo Jatee, Kao Karo Patee, Raam Ko Naam Japo Din Ratee

Who cares about Caste, Who cares about Social Status, Just recite the Name of the Lord day and night.

Bhul Chuk Maaf!

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I am offended that you would refer to the sakhi and facts of the first amrit sanchar and the birth of the khalsa panth as a MYTH. Vaheguru, is kalyug this bad that people can't even embrace their own history but determined to distort it? Vaheguru help us.

WGJK WGKF

Im not lookin to destroy anything, that left to others who seem to ave suceeded.

Look at operation blue star, i recall aftter the "event" people were saying SBJSKB jamp in to the sorwar and swam to kashmir, some fickle people still beileve his alive in person.

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No mate not me prefer to deal with realistic facts.

If a dhadi Jathher were to tell the congregation that on 1699 Shri Guru Gobind Singh Ji selected 5 men as oppose to a dramatic act of weilding a sword and demanding heads, it wouldnt sound so interesting.

It happens in all aspects of life as they say "<admin-profanity filter activated> SELLS" the TRUTH is never so nteresting.

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Guru Sahib asked for a head not selected someone from a particular caste because Guru Sahib never believed in caste system to begin with. In his eyes everyone is equal and caste has no importance. Saying that he chose people because they belonged to certain castes implies that Guru Sahib believed in caste system which is not true.

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vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

The fact is that the Panj Pyra were SELECTED due being of different caste.

...hasnt anyone questiond the myth, that the ones that offered heads were of different caste,... conincidence.

They were SELECTED TO REPRESENT THE KHALSA

You want facts Bhai Sahib, but how can we prove that Guru Gobind Singh Ji selected the Panj Pyare based on caste? Guru Saheb makes it quite clear that caste is irrelevant in Sikhi, therefore it should be irrelevant to us. In the bigger picture, of course the 5 Singhs were selected - they were selected by Akaal Purakh to be His 5 warriors, to set an example for the rest of us. They were blessed with steel-solid faith in Guru Saheb.

Bhai Sahib, if you think the Truth must be boring in order for it to be the Truth, then I humbly suggest that you might find the path of Gursikhi quite boring. ( :| ) The Truth is the Truth, we don't need to attempt to describe it or bring it down our level. If you are here to post your conspiracy theories then please back your views up with Gurbani, the jewel by which we should lead our lives. Bhai Sahib, you said you prefer to deal with realistic facts, but the majority of the world also thought that the Earth being flat was a fact, until quite a while later. Bhagat Kabeer Ji tells us on Ang 855 that when we are imbued with the love of Maharaj, we seem insane to everybody else.

http://www.sikhitothemax.com/page.asp?ShabadID=3205

Veerji,

We can sit there and attempt to authenticate what we term as “myths” in order for us to feel an event is more believable. I personally don’t think that kind of thinking will have any benefit to ones jeevans. The thirst for Amrit comes from within and is based on our own past karams, actions and deeds. Each of us our responsible for our distance from the ultimate truth.

:lol:

~l~

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

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