Interesting Quote

[jii]

There’s something that I’ve recently read which really made me think. In a book explaining what sikhi is, there is one part where it explains the start of Guru Nanak on when he spoke to God.

This is a quote from the book,

“On his return to Sultanpur Nanak, when he eventually broke his silence, said,

There is no Hindu and no Mussulman (Muslim), so whose path (system of teaching) shall I follow? God is neither Hindu nor Mussulman and the path I shall follow is God‘s”

I found this very interesting, has enlightens to view that religion does not really matter, I think, as God is of no religion. However, one may arguably debate, so what is the path to God, is it sikhi; in that case is God a ‘Sikh’?

Further in the book, it does however justifies views by explaining that Sikh was not really aimed to be categorised as a ‘religion’ in form, but simply a way of life.

What are your views on this? The book was written by someone who became a Sikh, but writer is no scholar, and therefore does state his forgiveness if there are any errors illustrated.

If Sikh was not indented to be a religion in support of the quote by Guru Nanak above, was it known nowadays as a religion? Has the purpose for Sikhi faded?

[Khalsa4ever]

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

That's an interesting question you pose. I think that the concept of Sikhi as a religion is someone recent... originally with Guru Nanak, those that followed him maintained that they were good Hindus or Muslims, but at the same time were 'students' of Guru Nanak. As Guru Nanak said, if you're a hindu, be a good hindu, if you are muslim, be a good muslim.

And so the understanding at the time was that people may be of whatever religion they choose, its just that no one is following the "truth" of their religion correctly. And so Guru Nanak was the teacher to reestablish to his students the proper way of following religion.

In that way, organized religion is about going to "church" on sundays, calling yourself a particular faith, following rituals that are prescribed in that faith. Sikhism says outright that all of that are irrelevant for a path to God. Sunday is no more holy than Monday. Rituals bring you farther away. You can call yourself whatever faith you want, it doesn't change who you are.

Waheguroo jee ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo jee kee Fateh!

[BABBAR KHALISTANI]

ਸਰਬ ਧਰਮ ਮਹਿ ਸ੍ਰੇਸਟ ਧਰਮੁ ॥

सरब धरम महि स्रेसट धरमु ॥

Sarab ḏẖaram meh sarėsat ḏẖaram.

Of all religions, the best religion

ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਿ ਨਿਰਮਲ ਕਰਮੁ ॥

हरि को नामु जपि निरमल करमु ॥

Har ko nām jap nirmal karam.

is to chant the Name of the Lord and maintain pure conduct.

ਸਗਲ ਕ੍ਰਿਆ ਮਹਿ ਊਤਮ ਕਿਰਿਆ ॥

सगल क्रिआ महि ऊतम किरिआ ॥

Sagal kir­ā meh ūṯam kiri­ā.

Of all religious rituals, the most sublime ritual

ਸਾਧਸੰਗਿ ਦੁਰਮਤਿ ਮਲੁ ਹਿਰਿਆ ॥

साधसंगि दुरमति मलु हिरिआ ॥

Sāḏẖsang ḏurmaṯ mal hiri­ā.

is to erase the filth of the dirty mind in the Company of the Holy.

ਸਗਲ ਉਦਮ ਮਹਿ ਉਦਮੁ ਭਲਾ ॥

सगल उदम महि उदमु भला ॥

Sagal uḏam meh uḏam bẖalā.

Of all efforts, the best effort

ਹਰਿ ਕਾ ਨਾਮੁ ਜਪਹੁ ਜੀਅ ਸਦਾ ॥

हरि का नामु जपहु जीअ सदा ॥

Har kā nām japahu jī­a saḏā.

is to chant the Name of the Lord in the heart, forever.

ਸਗਲ ਬਾਨੀ ਮਹਿ ਅੰਮ੍ਰਿਤ ਬਾਨੀ ॥

सगल बानी महि अम्रित बानी ॥

Sagal bānī meh amriṯ bānī.

Of all speech, the most ambrosial speech

ਹਰਿ ਕੋ ਜਸੁ ਸੁਨਿ ਰਸਨ ਬਖਾਨੀ ॥

हरि को जसु सुनि रसन बखानी ॥

Har ko jas sun rasan bakẖānī.

is to hear the Lord's Praise and chant it with the tongue.

ਸਗਲ ਥਾਨ ਤੇ ਓਹੁ ਊਤਮ ਥਾਨੁ ॥

सगल थान ते ओहु ऊतम थानु ॥

Sagal thān ṯė oh ūṯam thān.

Of all places, the most sublime place,

ਨਾਨਕ ਜਿਹ ਘਟਿ ਵਸੈ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ॥੮॥੩॥

नानक जिह घटि वसै हरि नामु ॥८॥३॥

Nānak jih gẖat vasai har nām. ||8||3||

O Nanak, is that heart in which the Name of the Lord abides. ||8||3||

[guruji's_student]

god has no religion.... guru gobind singh ji has said that in shabad hazreh dasvin:)!

god is like a house... and all the different religions are paths which lead us there .. wel thats how i see it:)

bhull chukk maaf