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See this video its more interesting and shows stories that happened pre-abrahmic religions shows bible,quran,torah all copied ancient religion (sumerian) stories before them.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pKZhd3mJeBE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWCRjlTovg

The ancient sumerians is one of the early human civilisations on earth if not the earliest. Their ancient teachings are probably the foundations of all the worlds religions today. If you want to know about human history, researching the ancient sumerians would be a good place to start. New world order,etc is all tired in with these ancient socities.

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See this video its more interesting and shows stories that happened pre-abrahmic religions shows bible,quran,torah all copied ancient religion (sumerian) stories before them.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pKZhd3mJeBE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWCRjlTovg

The ancient sumerians is one of the early human civilisations on earth if not the earliest. Their ancient teachings are probably the foundations of all the worlds religions today. If you want to know about human history, researching the ancient sumerians would be a good place to start. New world order,etc is all tired in with these ancient socities.

Sumerians knew about the Solar System,

Amazing seeing as they lived even before Jesus,but check this 2012 end of Earth?Personally I think is scaremongering http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y&...ted&search=

According to Sumarians and a few space dudes - conspiracy ones may I point out,they think in 2012 when a Planet called Nibiru bigger than Jupiter passes by Earth ,the Earth;s orbit will change,weather,and most species will die out.

The conspiracy claims are that after Nibiru passes Earth the Earth will shift Poles and they will change,after which massive tsunamis will occure ,earthquakes and volcanoes,BUT,they say it happens every 3,500 years or so,so what about the past 3,500 years,how come there is no record of it happening then blink.gif

They are building up to 2012,just like they did to the Millennium 2000,OoOo year 2000 we're all going to die,and the Millennium bug,anyone remember all of those story's,funny when you look back at it.

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lol i got bigger things 2 worry about..

*wonders why the heck he started the topic then*

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*wonders why shes wondering in the 1st place* :D

i'm not worried - just telling people of the truth lol jokes.. just found it on youtuibe and thought it might be of interest to all the conspiracy worshipers

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lol i got bigger things 2 worry about..

*wonders why the heck he started the topic then*

wacko.gif

*wonders why shes wondering in the 1st place* :D

i'm not worried - just telling people of the truth lol jokes.. just found it on youtuibe and thought it might be of interest to all the conspiracy worshipers

Don't discount that there may actually be some sort of organised attempts to muppet everyone off. It's not like some elite goray haven't got a history of this.

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See this video its more interesting and shows stories that happened pre-abrahmic religions shows bible,quran,torah all copied ancient religion (sumerian) stories before them.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=pKZhd3mJeBE

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=YSWCRjlTovg

The ancient sumerians is one of the early human civilisations on earth if not the earliest. Their ancient teachings are probably the foundations of all the worlds religions today. If you want to know about human history, researching the ancient sumerians would be a good place to start. New world order,etc is all tired in with these ancient socities.

Sumerians knew about the Solar System,

Amazing seeing as they lived even before Jesus,but check this 2012 end of Earth?Personally I think is scaremongering http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=U-3RLx_4Y5Y&...ted&search=

According to Sumarians and a few space dudes - conspiracy ones may I point out,they think in 2012 when a Planet called Nibiru bigger than Jupiter passes by Earth ,the Earth;s orbit will change,weather,and most species will die out.

The conspiracy claims are that after Nibiru passes Earth the Earth will shift Poles and they will change,after which massive tsunamis will occure ,earthquakes and volcanoes,BUT,they say it happens every 3,500 years or so,so what about the past 3,500 years,how come there is no record of it happening then blink.gif

They are building up to 2012,just like they did to the Millennium 2000,OoOo year 2000 we're all going to die,and the Millennium bug,anyone remember all of those story's,funny when you look back at it.

Whats the Sangat's view on this

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