One Big Confusion

[sgurbir]

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru ji kee Fateh

Daas was going through some updates about Budha Dal, as per the latest News Baba Balbir Singh ji is Nominated as Cheif of Budha Dal however Budha Dal's offcial web site doesnt show that information over there.

Please get it clarified

Waheguru ji ka Khalsa

Waheguru JI kee Fateh

:nihungsmile:

[jassa]

the budhadals website was maintained by baba uday singh and he is under ground ... and regarding jathedari ... till baba santa singh is alive he is jathedar ... no matter how much anti dal panth force try to give their pithus the jathedari ... and after baba ji do charhai ... whose ever will have the hand of dasmesh pita over their back will take the jathedari ... why to worry about future !!!!

[proactive]

Jassa,

So don't you accept the investiture ceremony which was attended by Santa Singh? Surely if Santa Singh wants Balbir Singh as his successor then why should one section of Nihangs be disputing this?

[jassa]

baba santa singh is over 110 years old ... they cant speak or walk ... few years back when there sarirak avstha was good they named baba surjeet singh jathedar ... and made a five singh jathebandi to take decisions of dal .... at that time they gave jathedari to dal panth as whole and it was to shifted baba surjeet singh after they do akal challana ...

like in every jathebandi when ever there is such thing many people come forward wanting to be a jathedar .... but its all in hands of guru sahib ... so wait till baba ji is alive ...

and regarding baba balbir singh jehra apne dal da nahi ho sakeya oh baki sikhan da ki houga !!!!

Baba Surjit Singh to head Budha Dal (Talwandi Sabo, April 16 2005)

Speculations regarding the new head of the Budha Dal were laid to rest today with Baba Santa Singh choosing Baba Surjit Singh as his successor.

The debate over the Budha Dal’s successor started eight years back when Baba Balbir Singh, known for his proximity with Baba Santa Singh, left the dal to form a new group. He still claims himself to be the head of the dal. The matter again hit the headlines on March 15 this year when Baba Balbir Singh suddenly reached Damdama Sahib to meet Baba Santa Singh.

Sources said Baba Santa Singh wanted to quit due to the age factor and he had also formed a five-member committee to manage the affairs of the dal. The sources said there were discussions among the dal members at Gurdwara Degsar Bor Sahib, in which the names of Baba Dayal Singh and Baba Surjit Singh came up.

Baba Uday Singh proposed the name of Baba Surjit Singh, while Baba Dayal Singh seconded his name. Sources said heads of various Nihang organisations, including Tarna Dal’s Makhan Singh, Baba Gurdev Singh Anandpur Saheb, Baba Avtar Singh of Vidhi Chand Dal, and Baba Trilok Singh Tarna Dal Khayale Wale, met Baba Santa Singh and supported Baba Surjit Singh’s name for the post of the 14th head of the Budha Dal. Baba Santa Singh then presented his successor a ‘siropa’.

Nihang bodies pledged their full support to Baba Surjit Singh, who hails from Marad village of Gurdaspur. He became a dal member about 30 years back.

[proactive]

Any person has the right to change his mind about who he wants to be his successor. I think using the age and infirmity of Santa Singh as a reason to reject Balbir Singh is just an excuse. Surjeet Singh was only named his successor in April 2005 and Santa Singh has reversed his decision in September 2007. I doubt his sanity has suffered in just 18 months. Although the murderous actions of Uday Singh and Surjeet Singh in killing four Nihangs related to Balbir Singh doesn't inspire much confidence in their ability to lead Budha Dal.

[Gurbar Akaal]

See how when SGPC get involved there suddenly becomes a kursi war?

[proactive]

See how when SGPC get involved there suddenly becomes a kursi war?

The SGPC has been involved in Nihang politics since 1984. Balbir Singh is their nominee so looks like the SGPC have got their revenge for the Nihang role in 1984.

Quick question, why is your leader Niddar taking part in this ceremony when all along he has been saying that Surjeet Singh is the real successor to Santa Singh?

[Gurbar Akaal]

Unfortunately I cant read minds, so will have to get his view when he returns to the UK.

[proactive]

Sorry, I forgot he keeps the chelay in the dark on most things!

[Gurbar Akaal]

Funny how suddenly everyone wants to know what Niddar Singh thinks or believes. If you want to know what his view is, pop to the akhara in 6 weeks time.

When did Niddar Singhs stance become important to you? You dont like him, dont agree with him, so whats the point of asking?

The fact is that Niddar Singh doesnt accept Balbir Bazigar as the Jathedar, nor do the other Nihang Singhs in India. This is dirty politics at its best and people like you love to sit back and watch the thamasha.

Regardless of whether Balbir Bazigar becomes the "Jathedar", his position wont hold nothing but a false kursi. Jathedari requires respect, obedience and faithfullness, soemthing he will never have from the other Singhs, he is seen as a filthy person with no maryada, no gyaan, and no pyar for the Dal Panth.

Niddar Singhs view on the jathedhari will be in his book, if you cant gather up the courage to go to the akhara, then wait for that to be released.