Looking For Sikh Story

[jii]

Does anybody know the full story with all the names or most of the names of when Guru Gobind Singh disowned his son. The story I am look for is when he sent his son off to print parts of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib or the Dasam Granth, and his son did was not truthful of the script written….

many thanks in advance.

[guptveer1469]

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Wow never heard of that one.

Maybe you reffering to Guru Har Rai's son , who changed bani from musalman ki to beimaan ki.

[Revolutionary]

Does anybody know the full story with all the names or most of the names of when Guru Gobind Singh disowned his son. The story I am look for is when he sent his son off to print parts of the Siri Guru Granth Sahib or the Dasam Granth, and his son did was not truthful of the script written….

many thanks in advance.

Guru Gobind SIngh ji did not disown ANY of his sons (4 Sahibzaade and the 4 adopted Sahibzaade)

Only story that i find slight similiarity is the one of ..er....lemmi think.. o yeah..:

Guru Har Rai Sahib ji disowned his son, Ram Rai, for changing Gurbani to impress Aurengzeb (Miti "BEYMAAN" kee - instead of Miti "MUSALMAAN" kee..) to avoid Aurengzeb from complaining about Gurbani.

[lowest of the low singhni]

Don't know if this is what you're on about, but anyway..

At Delhi, Mata Sundari adopted a young boy whom she named Ajit Singh because of his resemblance to her own late son. After the passing away of Guru Gobind Singh at Nanded in October 1708, the Sikhs looked up to her for guidance. She appointed Bhai Mani Singh to manage the sacred shrines at Amritsar and also commissioned him to collect the writings of Guru Gobind Singh. She also issued under her own seal and authority hukamnamas to sangats. The hukamnamas since discovered and published bear dates between 12 October 1717 and 10 August 1730. Mata Sundari was disappointed in her adopted son, Ajit Singh. Emperor Bahadur Shah treated him as the successor of Guru Gobind Singh, called him to his court and gave him a robe of honour in September 1710. This went to his head and he started 1iving in style as a courtier. He grew arrogant and haughty even towards Mata Sundari who disowned him, and migrated to Mathura. Ajit Singh was later convicted for murder and was put to death on 18 January 1725.

[jii]

Don't know if this is what you're on about, but anyway..

At Delhi, Mata Sundari adopted a young boy whom she named Ajit Singh because of his resemblance to her own late son. After the passing away of Guru Gobind Singh at Nanded in October 1708, the Sikhs looked up to her for guidance. She appointed Bhai Mani Singh to manage the sacred shrines at Amritsar and also commissioned him to collect the writings of Guru Gobind Singh. She also issued under her own seal and authority hukamnamas to sangats. The hukamnamas since discovered and published bear dates between 12 October 1717 and 10 August 1730. Mata Sundari was disappointed in her adopted son, Ajit Singh. Emperor Bahadur Shah treated him as the successor of Guru Gobind Singh, called him to his court and gave him a robe of honour in September 1710. This went to his head and he started 1iving in style as a courtier. He grew arrogant and haughty even towards Mata Sundari who disowned him, and migrated to Mathura. Ajit Singh was later convicted for murder and was put to death on 18 January 1725.

thanks, but i dont think it is that one. it sounds pretty much like the one Guru Ji's Sipahi wrote, but i think it was Guru Gobind singh. it sound very familiar, as Guru Gobind Singh sent his song to print part of the Siri Guru Granth Shabi or Dasam Granth, and because the print man was a muslim he did not approve one a part written. He made a suggestion what the text may have been, and the Guru's son knowing that it was the wrong interpretation, went along with it. When the Guru found out, he said if you cannot respect and be proud of who you are, then he should walk away - notably this is not word for word what the Guru said, by im sure yous get the gist of it.

[orono]

Def Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji and his son Ram Rai

[jii]

Def Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji and his son Ram Rai

has anyone got the full story to this?

[Azaad]

Baba Ram Rai was the eldest son of the Seventh Sikh Guru, Guru Har Rai Ji who had 2 other children. Guru Harkrishan was the youngest amongst the three siblings. Baba Ji sister Sarup Kaur was elder to him by almost four years and he was nine years older than Guru Harkrishan. Baba Ji was born in a palace called Sheeh Mahal. It is said that this palace, the residence of Guru Har Rai, was constructed on the model of the Sheesh Mahal of Jaipur.

When Aurangzeb came to the throne, he accused Guru Har Rai of helping Dara Shikoh (Aurangzeb's brother but arch-enemy) and sought Guru Ji appearance in Delhi. Instead, Guru Sahib sent his eldest son, Ram Rai, to Delhi. Ram Rai was well received by Aurangzeb. He not only satisfactorily responded to all charges but also impressed Aurangzeb with his cleverness. As a result, Ram Rai was asked to stay on as a state guest for some period. One day, Aurangzeb questioned (under influence from others), why Sri Guru Nanak had criticized Islam in salok "Mitti Musalman Ki"? Ram Rai satisfied the assembled Muslims by saying that the actual writing is "Mitti Baimaan Ki" and not "musalman ki".

Though Ram Rai was well-blessed with all powers and strictly instructed only to explain Guru's position, he choose to change Sri Guru Nanak's writings which was completely forbidden. Further, he performed miracles for Aurangzeb's pleasures. When Guru Har Rai Ji heard of this incident, he forbade Ram Rai from ever returning home. Guru's word in Gurbani is absolute divine revelation and not subject to any modifications by anyone. Miracles although recognized by Sikh faith, are actively discouraged. Their exposition or display is considered arrogance (competing with Vaaheguru's order).

Though Ram Rai managed to please Aurangzeb, Guru Har Rai Ji forbade all Sikhs from ever associating with Ram Rai. As a consequence Ram Rai obtained some jagir from Aurangzeb and settled north of Harduwar in Duun. He died there in sunmat 1788. Because of Ram Rai's Dehra, Duun came to be popularly known as Dehradun. A historical katha suggests that when Ram Rai was engrossed in meditation, the neighbouring masands mistook him for dead and cremated his body. For this reason, Mata Punjab Kaur sought punishment of masands from Kalgidhur patshah. Today there is a small following of Ram Rai. However, by Guru Har Rai's hukam, all Sikhs are forbidden any association with Ram Rai's followers.

Therefore instead of Ram Rai, Guru Harkrishan was installed as Guru at the tender age of five years and three months at Kiratpur. At the time of installation of Harkrishan as Guru, Ram Rai his elder brother was in the court of Emperor of Delhi. He after learning that Guruship was passed to his younger brother became furious and envious of Guru Harkrishan. He requested the emperor to summon Harkrishan to Delhi and ask him to perform the miracles similar to what he had performed. Ram Rai knew that Guru Harkrishan had taken a vow to never appear before the emperor as it was also an order given to him by his father Guru Har Rai.

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[lowest of the low singhni]

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh

What type of Guru would disown anyone? Guru Gobind Singh Ji kissed Baba Jee on his forehead and took him back into his court. Baba Ram Rai Ji made a mistake and was punished but then was forgiven. The only hukam Guru Ji gave was do not assosiate with the followers of Baba Ram Rai Ji. But Baba Ram Rai Ji himself when he was accepted back by Guru Ji said I have no followers, I am nothing. If you want to be saved take hold of Guru Sahib's hand, He is the boat to sachkhand itself. He said that to his own followers.

If you would rather talk about the mistake than the unconditional love of Guru Ji then please ignore this.

vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh