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SSA JI

Again i was jst lookin through threads/posts, i saw this thread titled "Singh is King" and many of you replied very hatefully towards da media..as if its all these bollywood ppl's fault...well..ya i agree they shudnt b comin up wid such movies but think about it...i blv dat it all depends on one's thinking..saadi soch te depend karda ke assin oh bollywood waleya de tareeke nu app-naunde aan ja thukraunde haan.. it all depends on us as individuals, ke do we want to adapt to what da media wants us to adapt to? It all depends on us, if we, sikhs, want to look or give ourselves da image dat da media presents sikhs as. Forget about what da world (non-sikhs) would think of us..forget about what kind of image they would or they hold in their heads...i think we should all think/worry bout our own ppl first, and give them da knowledege of a true sikh, of what being a sikh really means.

In a same way, as most of us are out here...far away from our homeland..Panjab. We see lots of sikhs/desi ppl adapting to da western culture...why?? Oh saadi rees nai karde taan saade lokki ohna pishey kion ghumde ne? ohna da culture kion appnaunde ne? who are we to blame? u think we should all together blame the westerns?? i dnt think so. Saade apneya di hee ghallti hai...its our own ppl who are being moderns. We shouldnt b blaming anyone for what our sikh youth is involved in...its well said ke "Kamal da phull chikkarr (mudd/pond) vich uggda par kadee gandaa nai hunda" it doesnt really matter da kind of environment we're growin up in...wat matters is, ke assi apne sabheyachaar nu chette rakheya hai ke nai..do we knw our roots or not??

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Yeah that's a really good point. We are all so worried about media giving the wrong impression about sikhi when it's sikhs themselves who are giving the wrong impression. :s

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If only life was too simple, here is the deal

When bollywood presents the wrong image of sikhs in sikh saroop over and over again in the same light then people's mindset chnage. They dont think its fiction they start to believe there is some truth in it.

It not only has a psycological effect on non-sikhs but it also have a negative impact on sikhs. Young sikh men become ashamed to adopt the sikh saroop.

Media vs Sikhs is not about stopping media from providing houmerous or negative images of sikhs. It is about a balanced approach to so called entertainment which stays in the boundries of entertainment and does not turn into a unjust psycological warfare.

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SSA JI

Dhanwaad saareya da...thank u all for sharing your views.

Balait Da Sher ji-Yes, i agree, bollywood is presenting a wrong image of sikhs throughout the world but what im trying to say is that what are we, our own people doing? Why cant our people present an image of their own? Why are our own people changing to whatever image the media is giving them (us)? Dont we all have a mind of our own? Don't we all have the right to make the right choices? Is some1 forcing us to follow the image they are presenting us with? Another question raising here...what are our punjabi movies doing for presenting a true image of sikhs? There was a movie playing yesterday on AlphaEtc Panjabi...all our panjabi entertainment/movies are presenting are the clans...JATT JATT JATT!! JATT AH JATT OH! Is that all what our punjabi culture is about? Is that all we all care about, the clans? Punjabi songs...what punjabi song talk about being a sikh? NOT ONE PERSON (SIKH) SAYS "IM A SIKH" now a days people want to change or add their ghotra/clan name with singh or kaur. All im saying is FIRST WE ALL NEED TO PRESENT A TRUE IMAGE IN OURSELVES..THEN THINK ABOUT CHANGING THE WORLD. Je saadi apni hee image sahi nai ah saadiyan akhaan vich then who are we to tell the world who we are? As I said before, FORGET about the world, think about what image you hold in your head, think about your own people first. Ya...be selfish for a change...

Its true dat bollywood's impact on youngsters does tend to change sikh childrens' views about who they are, but what else are they to do? Do they have their own people to look up to?? Is our panjabi media presenting them with something that relates to who we really are? NO..Not really. Then what difference does it make that they watch bollywood movies or panjabi movies...its all da same..B.S.

Bhull Chukk Maaf G!

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How many Bollywood movies do we see where a Sikh is shown in a positive light as a SIKH, and not as Indian? Border? Gadar? Nah those are Indian movies not Sikh ones. The script is pretty much clear. Use a comedian to act as a Sikh when making a comedy to make people laugh, and use a body builder as a Sikh when you have to degrade Pakistan. As simple as that!

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Haanji tusi v sahi keh rahe o, Mehtab Singh Ji...par ohna de (bollywood) raaste te assin kion chall rahe aan? Why are we following their path? Again, I stand on the same argument as my last posts in this thread...What are our people doing? FORGET THE WORLD...panjabi di kahawat hai "Daati de ik paasey dandey hundey te duniya de dowein paasey"

Bhul Chukk Maaf G!

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I showed this picture frm the poster to about 12 ppl who don't know much about sikhi - and they couldn't see anything wrong wiv it. ohmy.gif So sikhs need to learn bout sikhi before tryin to fix up the rest of the world.

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I showed this picture frm the poster to about 12 ppl who don't know much about sikhi - and they couldn't see anything wrong wiv it. ohmy.gif So sikhs need to learn bout sikhi before tryin to fix up the rest of the world.

Sahi keha tusi sis ji...that's exactly what im trying to tell my sikh brothers and sisters here...but i don't understand where am i failing to prove my point...? :s

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I showed this picture frm the poster to about 12 ppl who don't know much about sikhi - and they couldn't see anything wrong wiv it. ohmy.gif So sikhs need to learn bout sikhi before tryin to fix up the rest of the world.

Sahi keha tusi sis ji...that's exactly what im trying to tell my sikh brothers and sisters here...but i don't understand where am i failing to prove my point...? :s

waheguru ji kakhalsa waheguru ji ki fateh lov

good post

but as balti said its about the psychological effects ....he stands correct.

what u are sayin is another aspect of the prob...we shouldn't worry about what world does or whatevr is shown in the movies..it shouldnt effect us but the truth is it does.maybe some could escape it but not all. thus need for us to take action.

so few people who know the danger of it are takin action. let them and dont stop them

as u said..we need to teach ourselves and fix our selves first

but that first shouldn't stop us from takin actions to make change or stand up for something that we know is effecting us as well.

im tryin to think ofsome example i could give u to help u see that they both are two diff things.

we need to work on ourselves but that doesnt mean we ignore other things that might take us away from what we want to work on.

sikhi is a life long learning journey right? so when will we know it? would we ever be able to make any change or fix nything?

its not about fixin up the world its about making those who think they can jus twist stuff without being responsible and not make themselves aware of the fact that what they doing is hurting the humanity!

hope that makes sense

i know from a very far these things dont seem like much of an issue ....but when u take a closer look at it (small issues) ...it is the very thing u will know that we need to pay attention to*(its jus one of the many things we need to be payin attntion to)

bhul chuk muaff karni

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SSA JI,

Kaur Khalistani lioness- Thank you for posting your views...and yes, i fully understand the points you have made. We do need to take action on what bollywood/media is doing...but what if they are to ask us, the panjabi media, that what are we doing? What answers do we have for them? Can we give example(s) of any song or panjabi movie that our youth today watches, that talks about simply being a Sikh? Love between God and a human being...where do we present to the people, that firstly, love between god and a human is more important than having a bf/gf relationship...? <<this is what ppl think entertainment is all about...this is what pulls our ppl away from being bounded in lord's love.

What examples can we set for them (bollywood) that "look, this who we are". I really dont think Hindi or Panjabi movies are any different...just that hindi movies mention or give a certain image of who sikhs really aren't, and panjabi movies don't at all, instead they go about being off a certain clan (mainly being a jatt) in which we as sikhs don't even want to believe in...but the fact is that we all do because thats all that our media is presenting to the our sikh/panjabi youth.

So, what im basically trying to say is that lets think and take action on changing our media first, why can't we be ahead...and reach farther away than bollywood, and teach people about sikhi? Our own media at this moment is jst so lame, like they dont really care and trying to be like bollywood...tryin to make all romantic and full of action movies...instead of makin or givin themselves a status..an image of their own.

Bhull Chukk Maaf G!

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