Castro Resigns!

[fauji07]

Yet it bewilders me, how some of us continue to point fingers at Fidel as if he is an evil man, with the evil intentions of ridding his people of poverty and illiteracy, from which they must escape to the shores of Miami to work for below minimum wage in aspiration of a PLASMA TV, instead of Community harmony and collective progression.

the people who work minimum wage are probly better off in miami than in cuba where everyone makes minimum wage no matter what job they have unless they cater to foriegners (prostitutes and cab drivers).

its comendeble that castro wants the best for his people and stands up to foreign powers trying to exploit his country( actually thats not true cuba was russia's lapdog and it hurt his country very much). but as time has proven again and again strict communism is not best for the people, certain forms of democratic socialism can work but even socialist countries like france are starting to become more capitalistic because the socialism isnt working anymore and there economy is becoming bad. when everything is so closely monitered it stiffles inovation and ambitions and inovation and ambitions makes jobs which inturn stimulate the economy so that it is better for all parties. ask any former communist countries. im not a believer in total free markets i think that they should operate under the rule of law and bad business practice should bebrought to justice, but having monitered free markets do the best for all people hince if castro really wanted to do the best for his people he would make reforms. but instead he is to proud to admit that he has made some mistakes (and so is america) so the situation remains the same. and his government remains popular because its propaganda about standing up to the west and doing the best for the people, so people start believing it and don't question why they have to spend most of their day waiting in line for basic commodities. perhaps his brother can makes reforms that will benifit his people more, and hopefully those reforms don't involve the imf and/or the wto.

[fauji07]

but then again communism doesnt enslave its people it liberates all the down trodden people LOL

and people arnt poor they are just starving for the betterment of every one else LOL

why is it that communism doesnt work unless it has a dictator who is worshiped and doesnt alow any form of dissent i know leftest are in love with communism but the truth is communism is the epitome of everything they claim to hate.

[fauji07]

Again, a country should not be labelled or exemplified as a communist or socialist state simply because they state they are, but based on what they actually practice. Capitalist Nations have proven that it is murderous, look at the effects it has had on African Nations and the developing word.

Ok what would you consider cuba’s government is. totalitarian, communism, socialism, utopian, the best system ever.

"when everything is so closely monitered it stiffles inovation and ambitions and inovation and ambitions makes jobs which inturn stimulate the economy so that it is better for all parties. ask any former communist countries. im not a believer in total free markets i think that they should operate under the rule of law and bad business practice should bebrought to justice, but having monitered free markets do the best for all people hince if castro really wanted to do the best for his people he would make reforms."

Not sure what exactly you are saying here, you may want to rephrase it and back it up with sources.

apparently you know nothing about economics read or take any class on economics and not the economics of karl marx. So I’ll try to make this as clear as possible

if I lived in cuba and wanted to start business in cuba I would not be able to. Say I made clothes and I wanted to sell what I made. So I start selling clothes and many people like my clothes so I start selling more, and pretty soon I can no longer keep up with the demand so I hire a few employs, pretty soon I need more space and more employs so I build a factory and hire several hundred workers. So what started from something out of my garage now gives several hundred people jobs. And I am making good money and am living a comfortable life. is it really wrong to try to make ones life better, and shouldn’t I be able to keep what I have earned. in cuba none of this would be possible. Sure you will say something like you don’t need to live comfortably all that matters is that you are alive, or youl say that all the wealth I get from my factory should go to the workers, but why should it all go to the workers, none of them thought of or had the know how to make a clothes factory. They should be treated well and earn a decent wage(that is where the government comes in. But all of my earnings should not go to the government. Because the money that I earn can be reinvested to make another factory and give more people jobs.

But say some one else makes a clothes factory and they make better clothes and can sell them for less money than I can. So people start to buy clothes from this other factory. So I have to sell my clothes cheaper and change my business to make it more efficient and improve quality or else I will go out of business.

The point I am trying to make is that when some one has a monopoly i.e. the government of cuba they have no reason to not make things better and so they will remain the same. So if everything is centralized it causes the economy to stagnate.

I apologize that Fidel Castro is not a Superhuman God and has made mistakes. Happy?

yes very XD

I have never claimed that the united states <admin-profanity filter activated> smells like roses as you seem to be doing with cuba, in fact I have criticized it openly but you seem to not want to admit that cuba does have faults.

Its health care is pretty good and its mortality rates are on par with the US according to the the CIA world fact book https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/th...ok/geos/cu.html and the world health organization http://www.who.int/en/. If these are not reputable sources please send some links because I am open to learning.

All of my arguments are against the so called communist form of government which has been proven to not work very well. Just ask east germany or north korea. yes the US doesnt trade with cuba but many others do and it still remaines a impoverished country. And regarding waiting in line I guess you have never heard of "la cola" which is so common place in cuba

And this comes from the right wing, democracy bringers, who are are on crusade for liberating others... Led by one of the greatest war criminals in history. Bring democracy to yourselves before parading it on others.

I have never claimed to support the current president of the US or his crusade for “democracy” I think he is one of the worst leaders my country has ever had and that’s saying something.

But you did not answer my question about why communism needs to rule with an iron fist. In fact most of the points I have brought up you have not answered instead you have attacked the country I live in.

You love affair with cuba appears to be caused by your hatred for america

[Heera Singh]

singhavelli, will u marry me?

[fauji07]

Very good. Yet your neo-conservative ideologies don't seem to be very different than his.

First thing I am not a neo-conservative neo-imperialist or what eva. if I was my polemic would be quite different. There is a difference between neo-cons ideologies and capitalist economic policies, a big difference and nowhere have I supported oppressive foreign policies and have repeatedly made clear my stance on the embargo.

The Americans have waged continuous war against Cuba. For a state to be under constant threat and attack has an effect on its ability to progress and develop. Look at how Americas economy has suffered since 9/11, now add another 50+ years and you have Cuba. Imagine if American coastal borders were surrounded by army ships of another country that hated it.. and it controlled what was allowed to leave and enter now again imagine 50 years of that, how do you think America would do economically?

America’s economy is bad because are president is a tard and started a ridicules war.

I have answered majority of your questions and used the country you live in as an example to demonstrate a comparison of a capitalist state.

There are many countries around the world who’s economies are based on the movement of capital that are flourishing havens of peace and prosperity, and human rights. How many communist countries are there that can say the same.

Cooperatives are a good idea. if people want to come together and form a cooperative more power to them. we have plenty of cooperatives in the states although they are on a much smaller scale then in communist countries, I try to buy from and support cooperatives when I get the chance and would love to see more of them. however when the government mandates every industry into a cooperative the out come has never been as great as it might sound. And who do these cooperatives sell there goods to if there is no market?

Langer is great but I don’t want the government to tell me I have to eat langer every day and that I have to do seva everyday( that would not be seva).

Well, lets look at the capitalist system and investigate how this often plays out. The corporation wants to decrease the its prices, yet it wants to increase profit, what does the corporation do? The corporation minimizes its production costs, by lowering wages, working conditions, and environmental and corporate responsibility.

You are right! that is why the government needs to step in and make regulations, and break up monopolies. I have never said I am a complete supporter of laissez faire economics I do think that there should be some regulation but not total control. I think the government should play the role of a referee so that the playing field is fair but individuals can do there own thing.

I am also a strong supporter of unions as a way of regulating big businesses. Here is an article regarding the polish workers struggle against communism http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/s...000/4559293.stm

If it was a capitalist state, which breeds greed and competition, of course then individuals would be conditioned to not care for the benefit of others or collective communal progression. However, when individuals are in a society that is community based, not individualistic. The collective progression does not cause any stagnancy, but concern for collective progression breeds an environment that moves society forward without leaving anyone behind.

Wake up and smell the roses. People are naturally selfish and greedy that is why communism has such a bad record. That is why communism needs to be oppressive and why its leaders are egomaniacs.

A economy needs competition. Competition is not bad! Competition pushes people to do better. if you want to get stronger it is good to have some one to train with and compete against. it also works for business. Here is an example. the US post office used to have a monopoly on sending mail and it wasn’t very efficient, and it was illegal to send things any other way. When regulation were loosened UPS started and it pushed the envelope if you will and was able to deliver packages better than the post office. Now there are numerious ways to send packages including the government run post office. because all these companies compete with each other it is the people who win because it is now cheaper and faster to send packages.

is cuba impoverished i guess poverty is a relative concept. there are around 30 million americans in 'poverty' but these people live better than a lot of middle class people in other countries so it all depends on how you look at it. most communist countries are extreamly poor just compare north korea with south korea. all i can say about cuba is that many people try to leave and that beauracracy causes lots of lines. and yes i have waited in line at the DMV (which is a government agency) DX although people might have just enough of what they need that is all they have.

as good as communism sounds in practice it doesnt work plain and simple. cuba does have some good aspects but that is because it is very small so they are able to take care of its people a little better than a larger country regardless of its government.

It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried.

-sir Winston Churchill

[Heera Singh]

America’s economy is bad because are president is a tard and started a ridicules war.

Imagine how bad it would be if it was put under the same situation that cuba has been put under for the last 50 years (as singhavelli said)... i think thats (one of) the points that singhavelli is making... is that due to the circumstances that cuba has been put under by people like the US Gov't and other major international countries, its doing VERY well and has progressed itself in categories that countries like the US have declined...

Competition pushes people to do better.

but, don't u think competition also pushes the most greed and ego? moreso then the 'egomaniac communist leader'? for example, when u have companies like Wal Mart who drive manufactures to make the most minimum profit they can, almost just breaking even, just so they can have the lowest prices as compared to their competitors..

there's good and bad of all situations...

[fauji07]

cuba has other places to go to trade. some of its major trading partners are Canada, China, Russia, Spain, Venezuela, Italy, Mexico,Netherlands. and the us is not blocading cuba it just doesnt trade with cuba. blocade implys that we are stopping all trade going in and out of cuba this is simply not true. if the US lifted the embargo cuba's government would not last long. castro's regieme thrives off of blaming america for there problems if anything goes wrong in cuba it is always the US fault never the gallient Fidel, and if some one said other wise they would go to jail. yes america, and canada do have problems but at least we can talk about the problems and try to make a change. as soon as the embargo goes so does fidels government.

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yes competition can go to far but the great thing is that nobody makes you go to or work at wall mart.

please answer me one question

if you lived in cuba and talked about cuba the way you talk about the USA, honestly what do you think would happen to you?