Life after death

[Jash]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

where do we go after we die? i mean..sikhi believes in reincarnation rite?...n we also believe in sach khand...but how is the process like? can sum1 plz explain to me...

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[Jash]

oh yaa...one more thing..

do we believe in adam n eve as the 1st human beings on earth??

coz the christians n muslims believe in that...n plus...God is one naa...so if we don't..the how come they do?..

thankss

[Mkhalsa]

They dont beleive in evolution, we do.

[Jash]

evolution?

[Guest Akaal108]

Check out this research done by sikh scholar, thelogist, psychologist.

http://www.sikhawareness.com/sikhawareness...opic.ppa?t=1013

[Singhstah]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

check out this shabad:

This Shabad is by Bhagat Trilochan Ji in Raag Gujri on Pannaa 526

gUjrI ]

goojaree ||

Goojaree:

AMiq kwil jo lCmI ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ]

a(n)th kaal jo lashhamee simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai ||

At the very last moment, one who thinks of wealth, and dies in such thoughts,

srp join vil vil AauqrY ]1]

sarap jon val val aoutharai ||1||

shall be reincarnated over and over again, in the form of serpents. ||1||

ArI bweI goibd nwmu miq bIsrY ] rhwau ]

aree baaee gobidh naam math beesarai || rehaao ||

O sister, do not forget the Name of the Lord of the Universe. ||Pause||

AMiq kwil jo iesqRI ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ]

a(n)th kaal jo eisathree simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai ||

At the very last moment, he who thinks of women, and dies in such thoughts,

bysvw join vil vil AauqrY ]2]

baesavaa jon val val aoutharai ||2||

shall be reincarnated over and over again as a prostitute. ||2||

AMiq kwil jo liVky ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ]

a(n)th kaal jo larrikae simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai ||

At the very last moment, one who thinks of his children, and dies in such thoughts,

sUkr join vil vil AauqrY ]3]

sookar jon val val aoutharai ||3||<

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shall be reincarnated over and over again as a pig. ||3||

AMiq kwil jo mMdr ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ]

a(n)th kaal jo ma(n)dhar simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai ||

At the very last moment, one who thinks of mansions, and dies in such thoughts,

pRyq join vil vil AauqrY ]4]

praeth jon val val aoutharai ||4||

shall be reincarnated over and over again as a goblin. ||4||

AMiq kwil nwrwiexu ismrY AYsI icMqw mih jy mrY ]

a(n)th kaal naaraaein simarai aisee chi(n)thaa mehi jae marai ||

At the very last moment, one who thinks of the Lord, and dies in such thoughts,

bdiq iqlocnu qy nr mukqw pIqMbru vw ky irdY bsY ]5]2]

badhath thilochan thae nar mukathaa peetha(n)bar vaa kae ridhai basai ||5||2||

says Trilochan, that man shall be liberated; the Lord shall abide in his heart. ||5||2||

[V]

http://www.pure-panjab.net/quotes.ppa#evolution

Check out above link, provides a fw useful quotes regarding evolution .

For more Info about Evolution,

read though Darwin's theory :)bhull chukk maaf

Gurfateh

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

I'm pretty positive that Adam and Eve are metaphors for the human condition. Since science has proven beyond doubt that evolution must have occurred, that just goes to show that Guru Nanak was right!!

This is my favorite shabad:

mwrU mhlw 1 ]Arbd nrbd DuMDUkwrw ]

Drix n ggnw hukmu Apwrw ]

nw idnu rYin n cMdu n sUrju suMn smwiD lgwiedw ]1]

KwxI n bwxI paux n pwxI ]

Epiq Kpiq n Awvx jwxI ]

KMf pqwl spq nhI swgr ndI n nIru vhwiedw ]2]

nw qid surgu mCu pieAwlw ]

dojku iBsqu nhI KY kwlw ]

nrku surgu nhI jMmxu mrxw nw ko Awie n jwiedw ]3]

bRhmw ibsnu mhysu n koeI ]

Avru n dIsY eyko soeI ]

nwir purKu nhI jwiq n jnmw nw ko duKu suKu pwiedw ]4]

nw qid jqI sqI bnvwsI ]

nw qid isD swiDk suKvwsI ]

jogI jMgm ByKu n koeI nw ko nwQu khwiedw ]5]

jp qp sMjm nw bRq pUjw ]

nw ko AwiK vKwxY dUjw ]

Awpy Awip aupwie ivgsY Awpy kImiq pwiedw ]6]

nw suic sMjmu qulsI mwlw ]

gopI kwnu n gaU guoAwlw ]

qMqu mMqu pwKMfu n koeI nw ko vMsu vjwiedw ]7]

krm Drm nhI mwieAw mwKI ]

jwiq jnmu nhI dIsY AwKI ]

mmqw jwlu kwlu nhI mwQY nw ko iksY iDAwiedw ]8]

inMdu ibMdu nhI jIau n ijMdo ]

nw qid gorKu nw mwiCMdo ]

nw qid igAwnu iDAwnu kul Epiq nw ko gxq gxwiedw ]9]

vrn ByK n

hI bRhmx KqRI ]

dyau n dyhurw gaU gwieqRI ]

hom jg nhI qIriQ nwvxu nw ko pUjw lwiedw ]10]

nw ko mulw nw ko kwjI ]

nw ko syKu mswieku hwjI ]

reIAiq rwau n haumY dunIAw nw ko khxu khwiedw ]11]

Bwau n BgqI nw isv skqI ]

swjnu mIqu ibMdu nhI rkqI ]

Awpy swhu Awpy vxjwrw swcy eyho Bwiedw ]12]

byd kqyb n isMimRiq swsq ]

pwT purwx audY nhI Awsq ]

khqw bkqw Awip Agocru Awpy AlKu lKwiedw ]13]

jw iqsu Bwxw qw jgqu aupwieAw ]

bwJu klw Awfwxu rhwieAw ]

bRhmw ibsnu mhysu aupwey mwieAw mohu vDwiedw ]14]

ivrly kau guir sbdu suxwieAw ]

kir kir dyKY hukmu sbwieAw ]

KMf bRhmMf pwqwl ArMBy gupqhu prgtI Awiedw ]15]

qw kw AMqu n jwxY koeI ]

pUry gur qy soJI hoeI ]

nwnk swic rqy ibsmwdI ibsm Bey gux gwiedw ]16]3]15]

Maaroo, First Mehl:

For endless eons, there was only utter darkness.

There was no earth or sky; there was only the infinite Command of His Hukam.

There was no day or night, no moon or sun; God sat in primal, profound Samaadhi. ||1||

There were no sources of creation or powers of speech, no air or water.

There was no creation or destruction, no coming or going.

There were no continents, nether regions, seven seas, rivers or flowing water. ||2||

There were no heavenly realms, earth or nether regions of the underworld.

There was no heaven or hell, no death or time.

There was no hell or heaven, no birth or death, no coming or going in reincarnation. ||3||

There was no Brahma, Vishnu or Shiva.

No one was seen, except the One Lord.

There was no female or male, no social class or caste of birth; no one experienced pain or pleasure. ||4||

There were no people of celibacy or charity; no one lived in the forests.

There were no Siddhas or seekers, no one living in peace.

There were no Yogis, no wandering pilgrims, no religious robes; no one called himself the master. ||5||

There was no chanting or med

itation, no self-discipline, fasting or worship.

No one spoke or talked in duality.

He created Himself, and rejoiced; He evaluates Himself. ||6||

There was no purification, no self-restraint, no malas of basil seeds.

There were no Gopis, no Krishna, no cows or cowherds.

There were no tantras, no mantras and no hypocrisy; no one played the flute. ||7||

There was no karma, no Dharma, no buzzing fly of Maya.

Social class and birth were not seen with any eyes.

There was no noose of attachment, no death inscribed upon the forehead; no one meditated on anything. ||8||

There was no slander, no seed, no soul and no life.

There was no Gorakh and no Maachhindra.

There was no spiritual wisdom or meditation, no ancestry or creation, no reckoning of accounts. ||9||

There were no castes or social classes, no religious robes, no Brahmin or Kh'shaatriya.

There were no demi-gods or temples, no cows or Gaayatri prayer.

There were no burnt offerings, no ceremonial feasts, no cleansing rituals at sacred shrines of pilgrimage; no one worshipped in adoration. ||10||

There was no Mullah, there was no Qazi.

There was no Shaykh, or pilgrims to Mecca.

There was no king or subjects, and no worldly egotism; no one spoke of himself. ||11||

There was no love or devotion, no Shiva or Shakti - no energy or matter.

There were no friends or companions, no semen or blood.

He Himself is the banker, and He Himself is the merchant. Such is the Pleasure of the Will of the True Lord. ||12||

There were no Vedas, Korans or Bibles, no Simritees or Shaastras.

There was no recitation of the Puraanas, no sunrise or sunset.

The Unfathomable Lord Himself was the speaker and the preacher; the unseen Lord Himself saw everything. ||13||

When He so willed, He created the world.

Without any supporting power, He sustained the unive

rse.

He created Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva; He fostered enticement and attachment to Maya. ||14||

How rare is that person who listens to the Word of the Guru's Shabad.

He created the creation, and watches over it; the Hukam of His Command is over all.

He formed the planets, solar systems and nether regions, and brought what was hidden to manifestation. ||15||

No one knows His limits.

This understanding comes from the Perfect Guru.

O Nanak, those who are attuned to the Truth are wonderstruck; singing His Glorious Praises, they are filled with wonder. ||16||3||15||

pg 1035

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[DhadiMania]

k u die, n jamdoot (angel of death takes u sumwhere). dependin on how gud u r jamdoot wont hit u (if u remember god), they order u 2 go 2 sum high hill, if u cant get up jamdoot beats u, only if u did naam jap can u climb this hill. then it takes a yr 2 get 2 dharam raj (u cn mahabharat? well its arjuns dad u hav 2 meet), on the way u can ask 4 water, jamdoot ask wot did u do in life so u deserve water, answer is sewa or simran, n he givs it u. nywayz u arrive @ dharam raj place, n theres this massive line, ure turns coms up, den dharam raj cs how well u r, den sez u can go sachkhand or wherever, every1 has 2 go n c dharam raj. if u can go sach khand, dharam raj bows down 2 u, n asks if wanna go bak 2 earth again. then if u behave bad he sentances u, n u hav 2 go thru sum really hot place. example, thinkin of lust makes u go thru a chamber which s really hot. luks like an airport. n if u donjt walk it, jamdoot knocks u out, n makes u go in it.

hope that helped

(source bhai rama singh sayin wot hell is like, but in my own words)

[Khalsa4ever]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

I'm not sure I believe that, Kandola. The fact is that what we are spiritually (not physical body) is not going to be governed by "physical" descriptions. Does anyone think that a soul can bow before another? That a hot place will make the soul feel pain? That there are a bunch of souls giving you little tests? (and those that will ask you a question, and then you can give your opinion?)

The way I see it, these descriptions are just metaphors to help us decide what we should be doing in life, but I think that in reality, God is far far above anything "physical" that can be used as a punishment or reward. I mean angels? If GOD IS EVERYWHERE, where will the angels take you? If you become a true Gurmukh, and join with waheguru, do you really need angels to show you where to go?

Just a thought.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!