Weird

[singhunit]

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Im new to this so firstly hello!

This is going to probably sound weird but has any1 got/had experience of having a 'jhaga' in india?

[sadh ka sang]

By "jhaga" do you mean shirt? Could you please clarify your query.

[singhunit]

By "jhaga" do you mean shirt? Could you please clarify your query.

sorry probably wasnt clear enough. By jhaga i mean the little buildings you see next to the road (or whereeva) that are for your ancestors (shaeed singh) that have passed away in your family.

i know this is against sikhi as have heard katha on it but alot of families have em?

[Tera]

My understanding of the word Jhaga litterally means 'place' or 'space'. Its the first time I have heard of little buildings for your ancestors/shaheed.

[JarnailS]

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the owner of the thread is talking about "Jatherey"... its the place where someone from your old generation or from your cast and surname passed away or something like that..... people used to make a place "known as madi or kabar" and then the people from the same surname go there and do matha tek and stuff....

this is totally against sikhi...

please dont go to these place and do matha tek.... doing matha tek to these places means you are turning your back towards guru ji....

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[singhunit]

wjkk wjkf

the owner of the thread is talking about "Jatherey"... its the place where someone from your old generation or from your cast and surname passed away or something like that..... people used to make a place "known as madi or kabar" and then the people from the same surname go there and do matha tek and stuff....

this is totally against sikhi...

please dont go to these place and do matha tek.... doing matha tek to these places means you are turning your back towards guru ji....

wjkk wjkf

wjkk wjkf

Thats exactly what im talking about...have you got any more info about this? Why do people make this place for them? Are they closer to god?

[JarnailS]

wjkk wjkf

the owner of the thread is talking about "Jatherey"... its the place where someone from your old generation or from your cast and surname passed away or something like that..... people used to make a place "known as madi or kabar" and then the people from the same surname go there and do matha tek and stuff....

this is totally against sikhi...

please dont go to these place and do matha tek.... doing matha tek to these places means you are turning your back towards guru ji....

wjkk wjkf

wjkk wjkf

Thats exactly what im talking about...have you got any more info about this? Why do people make this place for them? Are they closer to god?

wjkk wjkf

the reason why ppls made these places are simply they dont have faith in sikhi and dont beleive that guru ji capable to anything and everything. these people tend to go to dera like ram rahim and have no knowledge, love and understanding of the sikh religion.

as said above, these have nothing to do with sikhi, and Shri guru gobind singh ji has clearly says in his bani (twe parshaad swaye patshahee 10):

kaahoo lai paahan pooj dhharayo sir kaahoo lai li(n)g garae lattakaaeiou ||

Some worship idols by putting those on their heads; some dangle lingam (Phallic symbol of Shiva) from their necks.

kaahoo lakhiou har avaachee dhisaa mehi kaahoo pashhaah ko sees nivaaeiou ||

Some believe Hari (God) to be stationed south direction others prostrate to the west, (Considering Allah's presence there).

kooo buthaan ko poojath hai pas kooo mrithaan ko poojan dhhaaeiou ||

Many fools worship images in the temples whereas others dash to worship graves or cemeteries.

koor kriaa ourajhiou sabh hee jag seer bhagavaan ko bhaedh n paaeiou || 10||30||

All human beings in the world are entangled in false and ungodly ceremonies and none has found God's secret. (10)(30)

but the sad thing is that when we go to punjab and look into the green fields... you can see these type of "madi or kabar called jatherey". they are so many... anything in the fields with little room and a small flag outside is nothing else but someonce jatherey....

hope this answers your question...

wjkk wjkf

[singhunit]

wjkk wjkf

the owner of the thread is talking about "Jatherey"... its the place where someone from your old generation or from your cast and surname passed away or something like that..... people used to make a place "known as madi or kabar" and then the people from the same surname go there and do matha tek and stuff....

this is totally against sikhi...

please dont go to these place and do matha tek.... doing matha tek to these places means you are turning your back towards guru ji....

wjkk wjkf

wjkk wjkf

Thats exactly what im talking about...have you got any more info about this? Why do people make this place for them? Are they closer to god?

wjkk wjkf

the reason why ppls made these places are simply they dont have faith in sikhi and dont beleive that guru ji capable to anything and everything. these people tend to go to dera like ram rahim and have no knowledge, love and understanding of the sikh religion.

as said above, these have nothing to do with sikhi, and Shri guru gobind singh ji has clearly says in his bani (twe parshaad swaye patshahee 10):

kaahoo lai paahan pooj dhharayo sir kaahoo lai li(n)g garae lattakaaeiou ||

Some worship idols by putting those on their heads; some dangle lingam (Phallic symbol of Shiva) from their necks.

kaahoo lakhiou har avaachee dhisaa mehi kaahoo pashhaah ko sees nivaaeiou ||

Some believe Hari (God) to be stationed south direction others prostrate to the west, (Considering Allah's presence there).

kooo buthaan ko poojath hai pas kooo mrithaan ko poojan dhhaaeiou ||

Many fools worship images in the temples whereas others dash to worship graves or cemeteries.

koor kriaa ourajhiou sabh hee jag seer bhagavaan ko bhaedh n paaeiou || 10||30||

All human beings in the world are entangled in false and ungodly ceremonies and none has found God's secret. (10)(30)

but the sad thing is that when we go to punjab and look into the green fields... you can see these type of "madi or kabar called jatherey". they are so many... anything in the fields with little room and a small flag outside is nothing else but someonce jatherey....

hope this answers your question...

wjkk wjkf

sorry to be a pain but im trying to understand this in more depth, are these spirits which havent got a space and roam around etc? My family has this type of 'madi' and hold an akhand path there every yr, but reading about this in sikhi ive established this type of thing is wrong. BUT - why so many of these types of places in the punjab - must be some type of reason why people have acknowledged to build this for their ancestors? Thanks in advance

wjkk wjkf

[sikh in melbourne]

gurfateh ji

yes i know this madi,samad or kabr r also in my pind and all my village people having faith in them and they tell me these r very old .

i think why peolple made this?? coz people dont have enough knowledge abt sikhism at tht time.

and they told me the person to whom this madi ,kabr or samad belongs to was very nice ,god loving man....etc...

bhul chuk maaf....

[x..Deep Kaur..x]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh,

I also have a 'Jaggah' of my ancestors in my pind. However in my mind it is verfied as 'Shaheedan Di Jaggah'.

I would not like to brag but i am in love with Sikhi and probably not like a normal girl my age i don't go out wearing small kapreh, clubbing or anything like that. I'd personally rather go Gurdwara everyday and do sewa:D:D. Anyways my taye ji like does alot of sewa at that 'Jaggah' and she started getting a 'pehra' (ancestoral spirit inside her), and she also infact predicted my brother's birth. She came to England and seen how at a young age a do so n so and paint portraits, wright poems about Sikhi. And she said to my mother that tell her to stop doing 'Parth' because she will start getting a 'pehra' at a really young age. Apparently even the slightest person they feel has got alot of lov 4 Guru Maharaaj, they visit them. I am not going to be biased but i i have infact felt a vibe and seen men with 'white choleh and white dastarr'. I've been told by my mother that when i get scared i should rememba 'Jathereh' from the 'Jaggah', they are there to protect me but have also been told by Babaji at Baba Vadbhag Singh Ji Gurdwara(bedworth, Coventry) that when i get scared i should read the Chaupai Sahib. So i decided okay fair enough, just like 2 weeks after i got so scared and believe it or not i was on the phone and i said, 'look i can see something running towards me'. I started getting really scared and i remembered what babaji said so i put the phone down, started saying Chaupai Sahib out aloud. Honest to God it felt like someone was breathing right infront of my face. I started panicing but carried on doing Chaupai Sahib, then when i finished and say, 'Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh'. I opened my eyes and i seen feet walking away from me in a semectrical way outwards ) ( < like that, just seeing the seam of a 'cholah'.

This so far in life was the biggest life time experience!!

But was wondering, were they actually 'Jathereh' or just my mind playing tricks. But i was definate i seen something running towards me because i blinked my eyes about 20times 2 see and it was surely there.

Can anyone explain what that might have been please..

Thankyou,

Deep Kaur

:gatka-singhni:

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh