1984 - Kaurageous El

[CaptainC]

this saturday!

1984

An enthralling talk on what really happened in 1984

When : Saturday 23rd August

2-4 pm

Venue:

Gurdwara Karamsar

400 High Road

Ilford. Essex

IG1 1TW

(its that really nice looking new gurdwara with beautiful stonework on it on the high road)

THIS EVENT ISNT ONLY FOR GIRLS>.....EVERYONE IS WELCOME!!!!

[SaRpAnCh]

Brahimins are the butchers of the World - Guru Nanak

HRNK

[AK47 JATHA LION]

ang 471

ਮਥੈ ਟਿਕਾ ਤੇੜਿ ਧੋਤੀ ਕਖਾਈ ॥

मथै टिका तेड़ि धोती कखाई ॥

Mathai tikka terrh dhotti kakhai

The sacred marks are on their foreheads, and the saffron loin-cloths are around their waists; (bramins)

ਹਥਿ ਛੁਰੀ ਜਗਤ ਕਾਸਾਈ ॥

हथि छुरी जगत कासाई ॥

Hath chhurri jagat kasai

in their hands they hold the knives - they are the butchers of the world! (brahmins)

[mann_kaum_layee_qurbaan]

personally think that line refers to pakhandis. just like we have pakhandi sants in panthic bana, doing havans, aarti, and deceiving the kaum and humanity into believeing they are some pious brahmgianis, when in fact they rape, murder, and loot the poor and downtrodden.

brahmin is one who knows God, as mentioned in Gurbani:

gauVI kbIr jI ] (324-16)

ga-orhee kabeer jee.

Gauree, Kabeer Jee:

grB vws mih kulu nhI jwqI ] (324-16, gauVI, kbIr jI)

garabh vaas meh kul nahee jaatee.

In the dwelling of the womb, there is no ancestry or social status.

bRhm ibMdu qy sB auqpwqI ]1] (324-16, gauVI, kbIr jI)

barahm bind tay sabh utpaatee. ||1||

All have originated from the Seed of God. ||1||

khu ry pMifq bwmn kb ky hoey ] (324-17, gauVI, kbIr jI)

kaho ray pandit baaman kab kay ho-ay.

Tell me, O Pandit, O religious scholar: since when have you been a Brahmin?

bwmn kih kih jnmu mq Koey ]1] rhwau ] (324-17, gauVI, kbIr

baaman kahi kahi janam mat kho-ay. ||1|| rahaa-o.

Don't waste your life by continually claiming to be a Brahmin. ||1||Pause||

jO qUM bRwhmxu bRhmxI jwieAw ] (324-18, gauVI, kbIr jI)

jou tooN baraahman barahmanee jaa-i-aa.

If you are indeed a Brahmin, born of a Brahmin mother,

qau Awn bwt kwhy nhI AwieAw ]2] (324-18, gauVI, kbIr jI)

ta-o aan baat kaahay nahee aa-i-aa. ||2||

then why didn't you come by some other way? ||2||

qum kq bRwhmx hm kq sUd ] (324-18, gauVI, kbIr jI)

tum kat baraahman ham kat sood.

How is it that you are a Brahmin, and I am of a low social status?

hm kq lohU qum kq dUD ]3] (324-19, gauVI, kbIr jI)

ham kat lohoo tum kat dooDh. ||3||

How is it that I am formed of blood, and you are made of milk? ||3||

khu kbIr jo bRhmu bIcwrY ] (324-19, gauVI, kbIr jI)

kaho kabeer jo barahm beechaarai.

Says Kabeer, one who contemplates God,

so bRwhmxu khIAqu hY hmwrY ]4]7] (324-19, gauVI, kbIr jI)

so baraahman kahee-at hai hamaarai. ||4||7||

is said to be a Brahmin among us. ||4||7||

[kaur_khalistani_lioness]

:BOW:

[AK47 JATHA LION]

that brahmin is 1 in a million. just like a bramgyanee is.

But lets not forget, IT has nothin 2 do with the avtar brahma.

[CaptainQ]

1 paapi brahmin doesnt mean that all brahmins are paapis :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[CaptainC]

BUMPPP

2MOROWW!

[ssfguy2]

this saturday!

1984

An enthralling talk on what really happened in 1984

When : Saturday 23rd August

2-4 pm

Venue:

Gurdwara Karamsar

400 High Road

Ilford. Essex

IG1 1TW

(its that really nice looking new gurdwara with beautiful stonework on it on the high road)

THIS EVENT ISNT ONLY FOR GIRLS>.....EVERYONE IS WELCOME!!!!

Daulat Rai in his Books "Sahibe Kamal, Guru Gobind Singh"

on page 107

"O, hindus! there can be no more ungrateful people than you. No other nation can boast of ingratitude of a deeper hue than you. No other nation has in her the fell spririt of disregarding her patriots. Who can be more savage and hell-ben on turtuing the rue lovers of her land?"

Daulat Rai further writes:

O. Mother India, these are your offspring. Your most favorite, the eldest Brahmin son (Ganga Ram) had already shown his true color of deceit, ungratefulness, shamelessness, indeceny and inhumanity. Now be proud of your second worthy son, The Kashatri, Dwan Sucha nand who felt no hesitation in wreaking his vengacne on the Guru, by sending his tender sons to certain death. He was not to be oudone by his elder Brahmin brother, in meanness, jealousy, col-blooded inhumanity and devilishness.

These are your true begotten sons. These mean and selfish sons cause you endless pain and greatly torture your mind. These sons of your are consumed by jealousy and hatred for your other children. They are thirsty for the blood of their own brethren and like leeches, they aere even engaged in sucking it.

O woebegone Mother, whom can you accuse and complain against when your own children are eager to kill one another? O, who can defend you then?

O, Mother, you have been seen the work of your Brahmin and Kashatri sons, who a claim preeminence over your other sons. Now Guru Gobind Singh has taken with him your lowly son, the Shudra to defend you. But the jealous, mean and haughty elder brothers won't let them gain enough strength to achieve their goal.

In their wickedness the wretches the ignoble elder brothers-work against you and their own good. Their wisdom has been sonsumbed by their wickedness. O, Mother india, pray to the Almighty for your sons. Supplicate the Lord to teach them to love one anothe and foster firm bonds of Khalsa brotherhood.

Daulat Rai writes on page 106.

The Brahmins could not tolerate the breaking up of the caste system and the discarding of the tradition of Janje-wearing. They created a furore over this. The Rajajs of surrounding hill tracts were set against the Guru by the Brahmins who declared that Guru had denigrated hindu Dharma. These Rajas were already jealouf of his growing power and saw a challenge to their own Supremcacy in his crusade against caste distinctions.

The Brahmins incited them to hound the Guru persistently without giving him a breather so as to break his spiriti and disperse his bedgraggled crowd of an amry......

........ The Guru - The great Gobind Singh - was preparing to sacrifice his all for thee, was busy whole-heartedly to lift thee out of thy degraded state to a higher level of self-respect and decenty and yet thy people stand agains him out of jealousy and selfishness! This is all due to the ungratefulness, hatred and jealousy that tis suffused in they veins. It is because of theis perverse stuff in you that you have been condemned to slavery.

In short, the Rajputs who claimed to be great fighters ans stupid Hill rajas turned against the Guru. The latter, commenced making preparations against him with a view to harassing him. But the heart of Guru Gobind Singh was dauntless and nothing could trouble him.

The Hill Rajas fired the 1st shot against him in a cowardly and unsoldierly way. They asked him to leave their territory, get out of Anandpur and pay for the damage and destruction casued by his people. This compensations should be made in hard cash. In the case of non-compliance with these conditions, the combined army of the Hill Rajas will march against him. The Guru's father Guru Tegh Bahadur had bought the land and had set up a village there (Note newly RSS propoganda on this is that A hindu Raja donated this land).

The Guru, a fighter by instinct and a crusader for freeing the country from foreign dominance, could not be expected to submit to such terms. He sent back the reply that he would pay the claimed damages with his sword and re-purchase his stay at Anandpur with bullets (Rifles were out in market by this time). You can view the Gun on this link

The Rajput Kings did not like the tone and tenor of this reply. Their blood rose in vengeance and they drew their swords. They attacked Ananpur a number of times.

Sikh Religion and making of Khalsa broke the back of Brahminism so all Brahmins are jealous of Khalsa Panth.

Daulat Rai: The Khalsa of Guru Gobind Singh was a group of people who were determined and daring, truthful and trustworthy, and dedicated and devoted to their Guru and Dharma. They proved their mettle and credentials time and again. The high castes had kept themselves aloof and hence the qualties mentioned above could not be attributed to their inclusion. In fact, these people had over a long period of bondage and subjection to persisten tyranny lost whever good qualities they ever had. the Kashatris, once known for their fighting powers, valour and self-respect, were offering their daughters, willingly and with some sort of pride, to the Muslims. The Brahmins were ready to sacrifice their country in order to save their dhoti from disrespect and were not pertubed over the sale of their women in the bazars of Ghazni for pretty sums of two dinars.

These communities could not be said to contribute to the wonderful quallities of Khalsa.

I can type up more if any Veer is interested.

Guru Fateh Jio.