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i don't find their teachings all that different from the right wing christian extremists who basically run the republican party in the US. :)

my feeling is that they're showing an exaggerated version of the most extreme form of islam. they even say themselves that many of the teachings are not in the koran.

if some media company wanted to make a documentary against sikhs, they could take out of context quotes about khalistan, etc and make a pretty scary film, a film that could incite hatred and violence against sikhs.

anything taken out of context can be twisted, can be turned around to incite fear and anger at a particular community. i don't think it's responsible to make films like this, and i'm not going to allow this propaganda to effect my personal views on islam as a religion.

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Nothing new there, British muslims (who are sunni/deobandi/<Edited> inclined) are very easy led to hate non-muslims and are easily incited to violence by twisted imans and mullah's who have political ambitions.

Mainstream Islam fundamentally is more political than spiritual... the aspirations are for global domination and implemention of 7th century sharia law (stoning of adulterers, cutting of hands, beheadings, 4 witnesses to prove a woman is raped,etc). But like all religions it does have a spiritual side like prayer/devotion to one God, which Sikhism agree's with. The main thing that lets Islam down is seperatism.. ie teaching in sciprtures its adherants to not mix or be friends or to treat non-muslims with respect or equally to that of how they would treat a muslim. In Sikhism were taught in scriptures to treat every human being irrespective of caste, religion, gender, race, etc the same. IF one should discriminate or judge a person it should be basis of their character not anything else.

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i don't find their teachings all that different from the right wing christian extremists who basically run the republican party in the US. :)

my feeling is that they're showing an exaggerated version of the most extreme form of islam. they even say themselves that many of the teachings are not in the koran.

if some media company wanted to make a documentary against sikhs, they could take out of context quotes about khalistan, etc and make a pretty scary film, a film that could incite hatred and violence against sikhs.

anything taken out of context can be twisted, can be turned around to incite fear and anger at a particular community. i don't think it's responsible to make films like this, and i'm not going to allow this propaganda to effect my personal views on islam as a religion.

The documentary makers actually do state that the sect they are examining are <Edited>, an extreme from of Islam from Saudi Arabia.

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I don't hear of Republicans speaking at the RNC about killing and hating people who have beliefs different to their own.

i don't hear muslims doing it in nationally televised political ralleys either. :)

but go inside a pentacostal church and yes, you will hear exactly that. these guys bomb women's health clinics, murdering innocent people, to prove that abortion is wrong. they're no less terrorists than their muslim cousins. only difference is the muslims have less political power in the UK, while the christians control the US.

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I don't hear of Republicans speaking at the RNC about killing and hating people who have beliefs different to their own.

i don't hear muslims doing it in nationally televised political ralleys either. :)

but go inside a pentacostal church and yes, you will hear exactly that. these guys bomb women's health clinics, murdering innocent people, to prove that abortion is wrong. they're no less terrorists than their muslim cousins. only difference is the muslims have less political power in the UK, while the christians control the US.

Are you on about the Bible Village types who have never been outside there village own a farm etc lol I've seen them in Movies they stay awake all night and sleep on rocking chairs with a gun in their hand and use words like shes a witch or someone has cast evil on the village folk they are satan - them types?

Sarah Palin seems ok ahem

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Are you on about the Bible Village types who have never been outside there village own a farm etc lol I've seen them in Movies they stay awake all night and sleep on rocking chairs with a gun in their hand and use words like shes a witch or someone has cast evil on the village folk they are satan - them types?

lol... ya, they're pretty interesting, but no. i'm talking about the pentacostal christian church. an extremist christian movement that has HUGE churches, churches so big they use giant TV screens so everyone can see/hear the preacher... they have universities, television stations, politicians... and they also have bomb makers and people who beat up women and murder doctors. they say things like, 9/11 happened because moderate americans...

<h1 style="margin: 0pt; font-size: 12px;">"...throwing God out of the public square, out of the schools, the abortionists have got to bear some burden for this because God will not be mocked and when we destroy 40 million little innocent babies, we make God mad...I really believe that the pagans and the abortionists and the feminists and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People for the American Way, all of them who try to secularize America...I point the thing in their face and say you helped this happen."</h1>

i mean, come on! do we live in a democracy or a christian theocracy, where everyone who is not christian (and to many christians, anyone who is not white) is satan's spawn and their sworn enemy.

they don't just hate jews, they hate sikhs too. check out their conversion tactics in punjab... they said that 1984 was God's way of punishing the Sikhs so that the christians could come in and covert us more easily. WFT? seriously, they're more dangerous than muslims because we're not afraid of them! at least we're careful about muslim terrorists. but no one even notices the christian next door may be a terrorist too!

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