Similarities btwn Sikhism & Hinduism

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All religions have similar beliefs in morals. So i do not understand the point of posting similarities between Sikhism and Hindhuism, even though the message of the katha you heard is good. There are more differences for e.g. sikhs do not believe in idol worship. True gursikhs respect everyone regardless of religion and sikhs don't hate hindus. I don't wish to be rude, if it looks that way. But you don't what other people thinking sikhs are the same as hindus, its bad enough that the online dictionaries define sikhism as a sect of hinduism. Forgive me for any mistakes and anything that sounds offensive.

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[Akaali]

I always listen to the parvarchans of hindu saints, usually come on tv sometimes, or on the net.

Sure the concepts/philosphy they discuss is the same. As we all know, the basic hindu philosphy (living in peace, harmony, one god, reincarnation, karma, etc.) was all lost, when it turned to superstition, rituals, false practices. Now they are trying to bring back the same concepts as its more accepted in the west, and applies to everyone in the world.

When Sikhi already shows you the way, so why follow a broken path, which is being recunstructed, follow the Clear Highway, that leads you to sachkhand.

The reconstructed road will lead you but all depends on how fast you can walk. :lol:

[sikhlionz]

gursikhs don't "hate hindus"; they don't "hate" anyone. There are many similarities between the 2 religions and it would be interesting if we invite some RSS people, who claim to be experts on this topic, over to the site to explain these similarities in greater depth. Not just Hinduism i'd like to know similarities between Sikhi and other faiths also. Have a few books at home- will try to scan some up soon.

A Sikh will continue to learn until the day he dies, i'm sure Hinduism will provide him with countless lessons to learn.

Guru Gobind Singh Ji was right when he spoke along the lines of Recognise all Ye Humankind as one. I warmly welcome my hindu brothers and sisters on the forum. For equilibrium let's consider a balanced comparison of sikhi and hinduism by including both sides of the coin:-

Guru Nanaks first sermon was na ko Hindu, na Mussalman, "there is no Hindu, no Muslim." Guru Nanaks own Word denies any distinctions among humankind. Thus, to consider him as a Hindu saint or reformer is thus erroneous. Furthermore, the Sikh scriptures deny deriving any authority or inspiration from any scriptures of any religion, and repeatedly refute the authority of the Vedas and other Hindu texts.

Gauri Ki Vaar, Mahla 4, Aang 308, SGGS:

O Sikhs of the Guru, know that the Bani, the Word of the True Guru, is true, absolutely true. The Creator Lord Himself causes the Guru to say it.

Raag Bhairo, M. 5, Aang. 1136, SGGS:

I do not keep fasts, nor do I observe the month of Ramadaan. I serve only the One, who will protect me in the end. || 1 ||

The One Lord, the Lord of the World, is my God Allah. He

administers justice to both Hindus and Muslims. || 1 || Pause ||

I do not make pilgrimages to Mecca, nor do I worship at Hindu sacred shrines. I serve the One Lord, and not any other. || 2 ||

I do not perform Hindu worship services, nor do I offer the Muslim prayers. I have taken the One Formless Lord into my heart; I humbly worship Him there.||3||

I am not a Hindu, nor am I a Muslim. My body and breath of life belong to Allah to Raam the God of both. || 4 ||

O Kabeer, this is what I say: meeting with the Guru, my Spiritual Teacher, I realize God, my Lord and Master. || 5 || 3 ||

Raag Ramkali, M.3, Anand, Aang. 920, SGGS:

Bani, the Word, other than that of the True Guru, is false.

Raag Maru, M.3, Aang. 1066, SGGS:

The Bani (Word) of the Guru prevails throughout this world. Through this Bani, Gods Name is obtained.

Raag Maru, M.1, Aang. 1028, SGGS:

Accept as True, Perfectly True, the Word of the True Guru's Bani.

In this way, you shall merge in the Lord, the Supreme Soul. || 14 ||

As we believe in One Akaal Purakh Sikhism is more akin to the Semitic religions, than Hinduism

Raag Tilang, Kabir, Aang. 727, SGGS:

There is but one God, the creator, obtained by the grace of the True Guru.

The Vedas and the Scriptures are only make-believe, O Siblings of Destiny; they do not relieve the anxiety of the heart. If you will only center yourself on the Lord, even for just a breath, then you shall see the Lord face-to-face, present before you. || 1 ||

O human being, search your own heart every day, and do not wander around in confusion. This world is just a magic-show; no one will be holding your hand. || 1 || Pause ||

Reading and studying falsehood, people are happy; in their ignorance, they speak nonsense. The True Creator Lord is diffused into His creation; He is not

in the image the dark-skinned Krishna of legends. || 2 ||

Raag Asa, M.5, Aang. 397, SGGS:

He (God) is beyond the world of the Vedas and the Semitic texts.

The Supreme King of Nanak is immanent and manifest. || 4 || 3 || 105 ||

The Tenth Nanak, Guru Gobind Singh, rejected the authority of Hindu texts, saying, "All the Smritis, Shastras, Vedas etc. claim to reveal many divine secrets, but I do not recognize even one of these." The Gurus message recognizes these texts as well as holy books of other faiths as possible useful sources of knowledge and that may benefit humankind. However, the source of liberation, the channel for mankinds union with God is the True Guru. Moreover, for a Sikh, the Word of the True Guru, as enshrined in the SGGS, remains the ultimate spiritual guide:

Raag Malaar, M.3, Aang. 1276, SGGS:

The world is involved with the words of the Vedas, thinking about the three gunas - the three dispositions. Without the Name, it suffers punishment by the Messenger of Death; it comes and goes, in cycles of births and deaths, over and over again. Meeting with the True Guru, the world is liberated, and finds the Door to Salvation. || 1 ||

Raag Ramkali, M.3, Anand, Aang. 920, SGGS:

The [Hindu] Smritis and the Shaastras discriminate between good and evil, but they do not know the true essence of reality. They do not know the true essence of reality without the Guru; they do not know the true essence of reality. The world is asleep in the three modes and doubt; it passes the night of its life sleeping. Those humble beings remain awake and aware, within whose minds, by Guru's Grace, the Lord abides; they chant the Ambrosial Word of the Guru's Bani. Says Nanak, they alone obtain the essence of reality, who both night and day remain lovingly absorbed in the Lord; they pass the night of their life awake and aware. || 27 ||

Raag Asa, M. 1, A

ang. 471-72, SGGS

They wear their loin cloths, apply ritual frontal marks to their foreheads, and carry their rosaries, but they eat food with the Muslims. O Siblings of Destiny, you perform devotional worship indoors, but read the Islamic sacred texts, and adopt the Muslim way of life. Renounce your hypocrisy. Embrace the true Lord, and attain salvation. || 1 ||

The man-eaters say their prayers. Those who wield the knife wear the sacred thread around their necks. In their homes, the Brahmins sound the conch. They too have the same taste. False is their capital, and false is their trade. Speaking falsehood, they take their food. The home of modesty and Religion is far from them. O Nanak, they are totally permeated with falsehood. The sacred marks are on their foreheads, and the saffron loin-cloths are around their waists; in their hands they hold the knives - they are the butchers of the world! Wearing blue robes, they seek the approval of the Muslim rulers. Accepting bread from the Muslim rulers, they still worship the [Hindu] Puraanas. They eat the meat of the goats, killed after the Muslim prayers are read over them, but they do not allow anyone else to enter their kitchen areas. They draw lines around them, plastering the ground with cow-dung. The false come and sit within them. They cry out, "Do not touch our food, or it will be polluted!" But with their polluted bodies, they commit evil deeds. With filthy minds, they try to cleanse their mouths. Says Nanak, meditate on the True Lord. If you are pure, you will obtain the True Lord. || 2 ||

Raag Gujri, Bhagat Ravidas, Aang. 525, SGGS

"The calf hath spoiled milk in the cows udder by tasting it; The bumblebee hath spoiled the flowers, and the fish the water. || 1 ||

My mother, where shall I find anything to offer in Gods worship? I cannot perform Gods adoration and worship according to Hindu rites || 1 || Pause ||

Rag B

hairo, M. 5, Aang. 1136, SGGS:

ONE UNIVERSAL CREATOR GOD. OBTAINED BY THE GRACE OF THE TRUE GURU:

Setting aside all other days, it is said that the Lord was born on the eighth lunar day. || 1 ||

Deluded and confused by doubt, the mortal practices falsehood. The Lord is beyond birth and death. || 1 || Pause ||

You prepare sweet treats and feed them to your stone god. God is not born, and He does not die, you foolish, faithless cynic! || 2 ||

You sing lullabies to your stone god - this is the source of all your mistakes. Let that mouth be burnt, which says that our Lord and Master is subject to birth. || 3 ||

He is not born, and He does not die; He does not come and go in reincarnation. The God of Nanak is pervading and permeating everywhere. || 4 || 1 ||

Savaiya, M. 10, Aang.254, Dasam Granth:

Since I have clung to thy feet, never have I reckoned any other deity.

(Incarnations like) Ram and Rahim, (and scriptures like) Puranas and the Quran, preach various creeeds, but I do not believe in any one.

All the Smritis, Shastras, and Vedas preach various ways (to meet the Lord), but I have acknowledged none.

O Timeless One, with Sword in Thy Hand! Its by Thy Grace, and not my endeavor, that I have described Thy Glory.

Raag Kalyan, Shabad Hazare,M. 10, Aang. 710, Dasam Granth:

Do not worship any one other than the Creator. Regard God, who was from the beginning unborn, invincible and indestructible, as the supreme being. ||1|| Pause ||

What does it matter if Vishnu came into the world and killed the demons? By showing his wiles to people, he exhorted them to call him God. How can he (Vishnu) be called God, the Destroyer, the Creator, the Omnipotent, the Eternal? He (Vishnu) could not save himself from the blow of the sword of death. || 2 ||

O fool, listen, how can he, who himself

is sunk in the ocean of the world, save you? You can escape from the noose of Death only if you seek the refuge of the One who existed before the world came into being. || 3 || 1 ||

Raag Bilaaval, Shabad Hazare, M. 10, Dasam Granth, Aang. 711.

Why should God appear in human form? The Sidds have failed to see him anywhere, in spite of their meditations. . || 1 || Pause ||

(Ancient Indian sages) Narad, Bias, Prasur and Dhru have sincerely meditated on God without avail. The Vedas and Puranas have failed and given up their effort for realizing him. || 1 ||

Raag Gauri. Bhagat Kabir, Aang. 324-25, SGGS

While dwelling in the womb man hath not family or caste; All men have sprung from the same seed of Brahm. || 1 ||

Say, O Pandit, since when hast thou been a Brahman? Waste not thy life in calling thyself a Brahman. || 1 || Pause ||

If thou art a Brahman born of Brahmani mother, why hast thou not come some other way? || 2 ||

How art thou a Brahman and I a low caste? How am I of blood and you of milk? || 3 ||

Says Kabeer, one who contemplates God, is the true Brahmin among us. || 4 || 7 ||

Last quote is my own favourite. There is nothing wrong with Brahmins... REAL Brahmins. If 'Pundit ji' is one of the REAL ones then much respect to him :lol:

Many many hindus are so very kind-hearted and good-spirited.

More of these tend to be from castes other than Brahmins who unfortunately vehemently opposed the sikhia of Bhagati movement in North India. This movement was embraced by Guru Nanak Dev ji and exists in SGGS ji. As stated in Guruji for centuries Brahmins did not allow people of other castes to attend their man

dirs or pray- this continues today with only a few opening up their mandirs due to lack of funding from sangat.

Sikhs should NOT hate hindus as do not forget the bhagats of the bhagati movement like Kabir ji, Dhanna Ji, Pipa Ji, Bhaini Ji, etc. did not follow a practice of what centuries later would be called Gurmat yet they merged with Akal Purakh perfectly.

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[moorakh mugadh]

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vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

daas sochda sare religion is ONE, because all teach good things

[sikhlionz]

yahoo king you mean Gurmukhi?- apologies! i sometimes get overly focused on the english translation and miss the actual words!

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moorakh mugadh - interesting - so it is poor human interpretation of religion that is the reason for all the bad things that occur in most religions

not too sure about that- there is a religion in which people follow it perfectly and yet bad things occur a LOT- not going to say which as that'd be nindia but u know which

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this is a common misunderstanding that we sikhs hate hindus. we don't hate anybody hindus, muslims or anybody else. the problem arises when there are attempt to sidetrack and control our sikhi.

the muslims are hell bent on proving that sikhs are originally muslims and hindus trying to prove that we are hindus.

we don't intend to disrespect anybody but for sure cannot tolerate disrespect of our Gurujis.

there are similarities and also dissimilarities like my other bros and sis have stated already.

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Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!