When Someone Say's Sikhism Was Influenced By Islam

[canadiansikh]

search through www.sikhawareness.com. one of their members was a sikh scholar who converted to islam. this guy made all sorts of outrageous claims, and got totally refuted. you'll find good answers for the more clever arguments muslims make on the site.

this guy was muslim from the start, he was just performing some taqqiah (shiites are allowed to impersonate and lie to propagate the faith). he was trying to prove that sikhs are similar to shiite muslims. he got some treatment and he became what he really was.

[Kaljug Singh]

Fateh!

whats the best way to reply to this, cause i had a debate at work and im getting <Edited> off at describing how sikhism wasn't influenced by islam

Explain to him how a majority of Maharaj Jis rehats indicate how Sikhi is a distinct and rare religion. All these rehats have no base in Islamic thought.

Not only do the rehats indicate we are a distinct religion, Guru Jis pavitar bani indicates that our Spirtual Philosophy is compleltely different. then Islamic thought. Ask your friend what Islams view is on Lakh Charasi and Gift of Human Birth, Jivan Mukhti,Sadh Sangat, and Naam. Im sure this will them quiet. As all the concepts are strictly Sikhi in which no other religon fully understands.

And then show them what Ugardanti says about Islam. :D

this guy was muslim from the start, he was just performing some taqqiah (shiites are allowed to impersonate and lie to propagate the faith). he was trying to prove that sikhs are similar to shiite muslims. he got some treatment and he became what he really was.

Bahadur Ali aka Bahadur Singh Nirmala aka Francisco Jose Luis is just a lost soul who changes his religion like a Sikh changes his kachera.

I wouldn't sweat him, he will leave Shia Islam at some point. The penalty for apostasy in Islam is death. If his Muslim friends don't kill him first, he is going to die a lonely death as a bitter, twisted old man who will never find peace for the nindiya he has done against the Guru and His Sikhs.

K.

[virk30]

the person who makes these claims is a sikh i work with, he claims that sikhism was influenced by hinduism and islam, i forgot to add hinduism to the title of the forum

but thanks for your reply's they really help

could you guys give more examples of how sikhism is seperate from hinduism and islam and how it was not influenced by hinduism and islam

[AK47 JATHA LION]

use 1 of the most famous accounts in sikh history and the earliest account of SIkhi being distinct from Hinduis.

At the age of 10, when the pandit came to Guru nanak to place the janeyo and initiate him as a brahmin....

Guru Nanak rejected the janeyo claiming that he had no faith in such things and how he had no need for 1. Guru Nanak also said that it is not strings but our actions that determine our fate.

THis in reality was a big slap across the face of the Pandit and of the superstition/rituals associated with Hinduism.

From this day it was clear that The young wise Guru had started a seperate system which was unique and stood alone.

[Kaur :)]

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!!

AK47 JATHA LION You really know your stuff!

What you just said is completely true!

Sikhs Influence Muslims not the other way round!

WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH!!