Meditation

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

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In Gurbani it says that we need to do meditation etc - does this mean meditation as in siting in one position and japping Naam or is the word meditation used for Japping Naam in general (walking, sititing etc)

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Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

[Guest shastr]

it applies to ur situation.

if ur gristi, then ur not gonna be able to sit there hours after hours just doing bhagati, so in that case, you would do it with every breath, but as u walk around, do ur stuff u gotta do in everyday life. like work, or school or watever it might be.

but on the other hand, if ur a sant mahatma, u wouldnt be running around all day doing worldy stuff, so in that situation, u would sit and get into ur samadhi.

but for most poeple, it would be japing naam as we do our worldy affairs.

"haath pao kar kaam sab, cheet niranjan naal"

[jassa]

meditation and bhakti two dependent but independent things ... bhakti can be done with every breath ... but not meditation ... meditation is done to force ur body energy upwards and its main target is to open dasam duar ... meditation is one form of bhakti ...

sikhnet.com ... search there about meditation ... listen to yogi ji they have deep understanding of meditation ...

PS- dont meditate while driving ...

[Nehmat]

Meditation is a remembrance...of someone you love.

Maharaj Ji gave us Bani to tell us the 'nature' of the Lord. Such beautiful nature that by listening to it we can fall in love with the Lord. Maharaj Ji tells us that Akaal Purakh is 'Dayal' 'Daata' 'Maha' 'Barbhoor' 'Uch' 'Rudo' 'Gudo' 'Gehar' 'Gambheer' 'Veparvah' 'Payara' 'Shant' 'Akaal'...

It's our habit that if we like someone's qualities, we think about them all the time. Thats meditation. You meditate on them. Similarly, bhagat jan 'think' about Maharaj Ji all the time, they meditate on him and on his various qualities.

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕਾਗਦੁ ਕਾਟੀਲੇ ਗੂਡੀ ਆਕਾਸ ਮਧੇ ਭਰਮੀਅਲੇ ॥

aaneelae kaagadh kaatteelae gooddee aakaas madhhae bharameealae ||

The boy takes paper, cuts it and makes a kite, and flies it in the sky.

ਪੰਚ ਜਨਾ ਸਿਉ ਬਾਤ ਬਤਊਆ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਡੋਰੀ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥

panch janaa sio baath bathooaa cheeth s ddoree raakheealae ||1||

Talking with his friends, he still keeps his attention on the kite string. ||1||

ਮਨੁ ਰਾਮ ਨਾਮਾ ਬੇਧੀਅਲੇ ॥

man raam naamaa baedhheealae ||

My mind has been pierced by the Name of the Lord,

ਜੈਸੇ ਕਨਿਕ ਕਲਾ ਚਿਤੁ ਮਾਂਡੀਅਲੇ ॥੧॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥

jaisae kanik kalaa chith maanddeealae ||1|| rehaao ||

like the goldsmith, whose attention is held by his work. ||1||Pause||

ਆਨੀਲੇ ਕੁੰਭੁ ਭਰਾਈਲੇ ਊਦਕ ਰਾਜ ਕੁਆਰਿ ਪੁਰੰਦਰੀਏ ॥

aaneelae kunbh bharaaeelae oodhak raaj kuaar purandhareeeae ||

The young girl in the city takes a pitcher, and fills it with water.

ਹਸਤ ਬਿਨੋਦ ਬੀਚਾਰ ਕਰਤੀ ਹੈ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਗਾਗਰਿ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੨॥

hasath binodh beechaar karathee hai cheeth s gaagar raakheealae ||2||

She laughs, and plays, and talks with her friends, but she keeps her attention focused on the pitcher of water. ||2||

ਮੰਦਰੁ ਏਕੁ ਦੁਆਰ ਦਸ ਜਾ ਕੇ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਨ ਛਾਡੀਅਲੇ ॥

mandhar eaek dhuaar dhas jaa kae goo charaavan shhaaddeealae ||

The cow is let loose, out of the mansion of the ten gates, to graze in the field.

ਪਾਂਚ ਕੋਸ ਪਰ ਗਊ ਚਰਾਵਤ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਛਰਾ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੩॥

paanch kos par goo charaavath cheeth s bashharaa raakheealae ||3||

It grazes up to five miles away, but keeps its attention focused on its calf. ||3||

ਕਹਤ ਨਾਮਦੇਉ ਸੁਨਹੁ ਤਿਲੋਚਨ ਬਾਲਕੁ ਪਾਲਨ ਪਉਢੀਅਲੇ ॥

kehath naamadhaeo sunahu thilochan baalak paalan poudteealae ||

Says Naam Dayv, listen, O Trilochan: the child is laid down in the cradle.

ਅੰਤਰਿ ਬਾਹਰਿ ਕਾਜ ਬਿਰੂਧੀ ਚੀਤੁ ਸੁ ਬਾਰਿਕ ਰਾਖੀਅਲੇ ॥੪॥੧॥

anthar baahar kaaj biroodhhee cheeth s baarik raakheealae ||4||1||

Its mother is at work, inside and outside, but she holds her child in her thoughts. ||4||1||

Maharaj Ji described in this shabad above that how these worldly people were busy doing something else but their 'dhiaan' or their thoughts (concentration) were busy thinking about something/someone else. So even when these people were with others, they were still with that 'thing' they were 'thinking' about.

We must remember God like this. We might be doing something else...but how can this stop you from loving your beloved? You will remember him with every breath escaping your lips... Thats meditation. Thats remembrance...

[Sukhdeep Singhh]

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

Sangat Jio

In Gurbani it says that we need to do meditation etc - does this mean meditation as in siting in one position and japping Naam or is the word meditation used for Japping Naam in general (walking, sititing etc)

Please reply back.

Thankyou in advance

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ke Fateh

I think SImran refers to doing simran with each swas. For this to happen it takes alot of hard work. One must wake up early ( amrit vela) and do Naam Abhyiaas. Eventually by doing early Naam Simran; Naam Simran becomes natural. WHen sitting and standing Naam SImran becomes automatic since the Gurmantar becomes part of the subconscience thus the naam simran goes on automotically. WHen doing worldly affiairs, talking to the others, etc the naam simran continues to flow autmoically. To get to this stage though it takes hard work. AMirt Vela naam SImran is critical, and doing Naam Simran before going to sleep is also important.

The reason why Naam does not become automatic for most of us is that we are too indulged in wordly things. First thing we do when we wake up is think about wordly matters. THis worries, anxiets, hopes become part of our subconscious, when walking and standing these desires still influence the mind. If we woke up and thought about Waaheguru eventually the Gurmantar will becomes part of our conscience. The more naam simran we do sitting down with concentration the less desires/worries we will have that plague the mind and prevent it from doing 24/7 naam simran.