India Elections, N' 1984

[Khalistani Singh]

I was just reading the posts on the Indian election, and Babbar Khalsa.

Sonia Gandhi is coming into power not cause of the Guru's hukam, nor was it Guru's hukam for 1984 to occur. These things happened cause they did, not cause the Guru control's our destiny.

Wake up people, how the hell are you going to think that the freedom movement is alive.

Cause that a few so called Khalistaniz escaped? Do you recall what happened in 1984? There were thousands of Khalistaniz like this, and we were all portrayed as terrorists, so how are a couple of thousand at the most going to create Khalistan, and out match the Indian Army, and there Tanks? Right, fighting with AK 47's just the right way.

It's called common sense, which none of us have.

We are too lazy, we expect others to do things for us.

These Singhs that escape jail, want peace and their lives back, cause after a while, no one gave a <admin-profanity filter activated> about them, and everyone carried on their lives.

If anything, what we should learn from 1984 is that, we as Sikhs need to get into politics and play the game. Not just expect for a couple of guys to pick up AK 47's shoot down a couple of leaders, and have the world portray us as Terrorists.

As I've grown, Khalistan has become a less of reality for me, but has paved the connection with me and Sikhi...

Khalistan the reality-

1. A load of Sikhs that are not even close to becoming Khalsa, support Khalistan. (Example: Me, in 9th grade, KHALISTAN KHALISTAN KHALISTAN!!! - when I knew one thing less about Sikhi).

2. Unless, we as Sikhs start to think with sense, and act

ually get up as a community as a whole, n launch a world-wide organization, nothing will happen.

3. When Khalistan becomes established, there are too many corrupt leaders.

4. The only possible way, if all the other minorities, like the Dalits, Christians, Tamils, Jews that have suffered atrocities in India, step up, India will collapse as Russia.

hmm, maybe we should start working with other nationalities that also dis-like India for their fake, "World's Largest Democracy" identity....

The best advice I can offer, is become or work your way towards becoming Khalsa. The Khalsay who died, wanted the Khalsa panth to rise in the future.

I think it certaintly has done that, tons of "monay" kept their hair as a result of what happened in 1984.

As for Sonia Gandhi, or BJP, doesn't make any difference, our punjab government is the same. Badal, blah blah, whoeva, even the SGPC don't even do anything to tighten and strengthen the Khalsa Panth...

Till we get a leader whose not money-hungry, or establish worldwide unity, Khalistan will remain just a mere myth...

Just compare Jews and Sikhs, we went thru the same things, and Jews are less in population, but are known internationally.

If you expect to sit on your bum, do paht all day, n pray for Khalistan, that's never going to happen. Paht is for shanti, how would it make sense if Bhindranwale and his men just sat in the Golden Temple complex, did paht while they were being attacked. They fought back, as our tenth master, Guru Gobind Singh Ji taught us to do.

Khalistan, its your choice, not the Guru's.

Bhul Chuk Maaf,

-Gurjote Singh

[smartsingh24]

I'm gonna respond to these point by point. Hope u don't take offense.

Sonia Gandhi is coming into power not cause of the Guru's hukam, nor was it Guru's hukam for 1984 to occur. These things happened cause they did, not cause the Guru control's our destiny.

Guru ji controls our destiny. However, guru ji helps those who helps themselves.

Wake up people, how the hell are you going to think that the freedom movement is alive.

Cause that a few so called Khalistaniz escaped? Do you recall what happened in 1984? There were thousands of Khalistaniz like this, and we were all portrayed as terrorists, so how are a couple of thousand at the most going to create Khalistan, and out match the Indian Army, and there Tanks? Right, fighting with AK 47's just the right way.

Completely agree, people should join in the effort.

It's called common sense, which none of us have.

We are too lazy, we expect others to do things for us.

These Singhs that esca

pe jail, want peace and their lives back, cause after a while, no one gave a about them, and everyone carried on their lives.

I think we have common sense, but most of us choose not to use it out of laziness. I agree with the last bit completely. People support khalistanis, and then turned their backs on them.

Khalistan the reality-

1. A load of Sikhs that are not even close to becoming Khalsa, support Khalistan. (Example: Me, in 9th grade, KHALISTAN KHALISTAN KHALISTAN!!! - when I knew one thing less about Sikhi).

2. Unless, we as Sikhs start to think with sense, and actually get up as a community as a whole, n launch a world-wide organization, nothing will happen.

3. When Khalistan becomes established, there are too many corrupt leaders.

4. The only possible way, if all the other minorities, like the Dalits, Christians, Tamils, Jews that have suffered atrocities in India, step up, India will collapse as Russia.

I jus wanna point out that age has nothing to do with it, being that i'm in tenth grade.

1. Yes that's true

2. Again, true

3. True again

4. That's a lil' bit harder to do then it seems.

hmm, maybe we should start working with other nationalities that also dis-like India for their fake, "World's Largest Democracy" identity....

Nobody wants to listen. We should go on a full-on media blitz.

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The best advice I can offer, is become or work your way towards becoming Khalsa. The Khalsay who died, wanted the Khalsa panth to rise in the future.

I think it certaintly has done that, tons of "monay" kept their hair as a result of what happened in 1984.

Agree with everything there.

As for Sonia Gandhi, or BJP, doesn't make any difference, our punjab government is the same. Badal, blah blah, whoeva, even the SGPC don't even do anything to tighten and strengthen the Khalsa Panth...

Kinda does matter. We have to show the world the atrocities that were comitted by these 'politicians'.

Till we get a leader whose not money-hungry, or establish worldwide unity, Khalistan will remain just a mere myth...

Hate to say it, but yes. People died for us in '84. Did they die so that we could cower in fear? NO!

If you expect to sit on your bum, do paht all day, n pray for Khalistan, that's never going to happen. Paht is for shanti, how would it make sense if Bhindranwale and his men just sat in the Golden Temple co

mplex, did paht while they were being attacked. They fought back, as our tenth master, Guru Gobind Singh Ji taught us to do.

Again, agree.

[natsilahk]

Smartsingh,

If you believe guruji controls our destiny then make it a point to make ur destiny the uniting of the Khalsa Panth worldwide.

[smartsingh24]

lol, I wish I could do it, but not many people would listen to a tenth grader.

[Khalistani Singh]

Lol, about the destiny, we all have different interpretations...I can go on blahin' about my point of view, but whatever works for anyone. Sikhi is open to free interpretation, and from what I've been reading on most forums, its pretty sad.

I think its actually time we move forward instead of just arguing over BS or the BS other people believe in...

Like in most posts, most people just argue, and tend to believe in what they believe...

WHERE's the brotherhood veerjiz?

KHALISTAN!

[DhadiMania]

read in search of the true guru by bhai sahib bhai rama singh. it states guru gobind singh wanted that attack to happen (in the convo with the shaheed singh). it happened as sikhs were not following rehat. no-one had faith in guru ji. the atack would lay the foundations of khalistan said bhinderanewale (he had a dream about this).

dont believe me? read it, or ask rochak malang.

[smartsingh24]

WHERE's the brotherhood veerjiz?

Asleep, put to sleep by meaningless squables between people hear and there. I say it needs to be reawoken, especially with a new 'democratic' leader in india about to take her place.

[Deep Singh]

If anything, what we should learn from 1984 is that, we as Sikhs need to get into politics and play the game. Not just expect for a couple of guys to pick up AK 47's shoot down a couple of leaders, and have the world portray us as Terrorists.

I agree 100% with you! We need to get into politics! I hear people say it is corrupt....yeah it is...no doubt...but everyone has got the right to vote...use that right! that is the only thing! If you are outside Punjab, organize and support the parties in Punjab...that can bring major reforms back home.

[DhadiMania]

sonya gandhi is now the prime minister (officially)

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[Guest rsingh]

in another topic some one said

History has a way of repeating it self