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vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

saadh sangat,

in response to pheena bhainjee's post ... i have full faith and no doubt that guru sahib knew all the languages.

i mean when you read guru granth sahib jee there are so many banis particularly related to "akhars" or the "gurmukhi" script... such as baavan akhri, dakhni oankar, and others.

shabads like "dadaa daathaa ayk hai" or "phapha phirath phirath thoo(n) aaeiaa" actually encorporate letters from gurmukhi into the bani to show that gurmukhi is in fact the script of the ages...

it is a sarab sanjhee script - something made for all people to read and use. it is directly from sach khand.

but in order to create it, guru sahib must have had to realize that all the other languages were not appropriate? guru sahib compiled guru granth sahib jee with such precision and accuracy and a systematic approach - he would probably also have wanted to use the best script too right?

why didn't guru sahib compile the guru granth sahib in persian or farsi or sanskrit?

or english for that matter?

clearly guru sahib considered and recognized Gurmukhi as the ideal script for dhur-ki-bani.

And he must have come to this realization after having researched all the other languages.

A second thing to consider -

It has been documented in the janam sakhis and sri suraj prakash granth that guru nanak dev jee met with tibetans, africans, iraqis, romans, turkish people, south indians, afghanis, and others.

each of these groups ha

d their own languages and dialects

how could guru sahib inspire so many people without speaking to them?

Guru Sahib must have known all those languages.

A third thing to consider -

In Tuaprasad Swaiye, Guru Sahib says

"saaray hee days ko daykh rahio math ko-oo naa daykhiath praan pathee kay"

I have seen all the spiritual perspectives of all the countries, but haven't seen a single one that properly worships the breath of life, our Husband Lord.

Guru Sahib would not exaggerate or lie to his Sikhs. If he says "saaray hee days ko daykh rahio math" then he must mean saaray hee days (all the countries).

Guru Sahib also talks about the "Farangis" (Europeans or French people), Africans and Chinese in Sri Dasam Granth.

So it's clear that Guru Sahib had a full knowledge of all world religions and all languages - and still Gurmukhi, Waheguru Gurmantr, Guru Granth Sahib - these were all deemed the most appropriate tools for the Sikh way of life.

dhan guru dhan guru pyare

please forgive my mistakes

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

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thanks ms514.

here's their answer so other won't hve to search for it.

First of all, this line/shabd was not written by Guru Gobind Singh, it was written by Bhai Desa Singh Ji (sorry, I do not know who he was). I will give you the full english of this shabd (page 1015 of Amrit Kirtan), because it will help answer your question:

"I love the Sikh Rehit; the Sikh himself is not my beloved.

The one who lives the Sikh lifestyle is my Sikh; he is my master and I am his disciple.

Without the Rehit no one can be a Sikh; without the Rehit one will face difficulties at all times.

Without the Rehit he cannot be comfortable at all; that is why a Sikh should be committed to the Rehit."

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