Forgotten Heroes Of The Khalsa Panth

[Hoshiarpuria]

Bhai sahib, I do agree with you and the original poster regarding the dire urgent need to take care of our shaheed's family members. We are very far behind if compared with any other community. Maybe NeverForget84dotcom veer should post list of parivaars who need help. They can publish it on their website and then many sangataan can help such parivaars whenever they make trip to punjab (in my view that is much more effective way to help)..

I would go to punjab and give sewa to such parivaars by myself rather than handing over sewa to someone whom i never met and plus them supporting/partnering with some socialist/communist/scientologist type of missionary groups.

I tried to avoid replying on this thread.. chaalo.. Sorry for the negative reply..

So , Hulka Sahib JI

What has stopped you all these years from doing anything for the poor Sikhs of Panjab, i am sure you have been to Panjab a few times. At least Khalsa Aid video put the thought of helping Sikhs of Punjab or you would spend your life doing nothing positive.

If you go to Panjab to help the Dharmi Faujis i will give you £50, so go ahead and help the needy, no excuses now.

[Sikhistan]

So , Hulka Sahib JI

What has stopped you all these years from doing anything for the poor Sikhs of Panjab, i am sure you have been to Panjab a few times. At least Khalsa Aid video put the thought of helping Sikhs of Punjab or you would spend your life doing nothing positive.

If you go to Panjab to help the Dharmi Faujis i will give you £50, so go ahead and help the needy, no excuses now.

Hoshiarpuria ji, First you don't know what i do or what i don't.. to whom i give money or not... Secondly, I strongly believe that it should be our personal matter and many sikhs don't boost by contributing/helping others.. Also in such matters we should respect each other privacy and not to judge others quickly. Plus, even if i go to punjab tomorrow to such sewa.. nobody will know about it.. i rather keep it between myself and effected person/family whom i am helping. To others it may seem like making excuses but to me it may be helping to fight ego/name and other vices etc..

[Hoshiarpuria]

Hoshiarpuria ji, First you don't know what i do or what i don't.. to whom i give money or not... Secondly, I strongly believe that it should be our personal matter and many sikhs don't boost by contributing/helping others.. Also in such matters we should respect each other privacy and not to judge others quickly. Plus, even if i go to punjab tomorrow to such sewa.. nobody will know about it.. i rather keep it between myself and effected person/family whom i am helping. To others it may seem like making excuses but to me it may be helping to fight ego/name and other vices etc..

But you mentioned it before that you dont trust anybody and requested Nevaforget84 to publish a list of needy families so that you can go to Panjab and help them directly...this means you have not done so !

Anyway there is always the "ego " clause to hide behind ! Go on Khalsa Aid,i am with you ,thank god Hulka is not the majority !

[Sikhistan]

chaly veeray.. im not here to convince you or others.. rab rakha :cool:

[NeverForget84dotcom]

Sikh's should support Khalsa Aid in their projects, as its the only of its kind. What's more important to you, the Dharmi Faujis or internal politics?

As for Khalsa Aid's "affiliations".... Khalsa Aid employ students of Gurmat Gian College to educate children in the poorest areas of Punjab, the children receive food and medical help for attending classes and are also taught Gurbani. Khalsa Aid has previously appealed to AKJ/Taksal etc to assist or partake in these programs in Punjab, but no-one stepped forward. In fact some of the WORST cases of Christian conversions are happening in the areas surrounding Mehta Chowk, home of the Taksal.

[NeverForget84dotcom]

If anyone is interested in helping these Singhs or family members of Shaheeds, drop me a PM

[NeverForget84dotcom]

This needs a bump

[Khoolasice]

I would also like to help in a small way but I too have seen the way our 'Leaders' behave and that is why I am also hesitant to give money to Sikh Orgs.

This may provoke a negative response but I am comfortable with my views.

I have seen the self-serving corruption of Gurdwara Committees with my own eyes.

I have seen a once devout Sikh familly convert to Christianity because the Vicar was the ONLY spiritual help this familly could get.

But I too would like to 'Adopt' a Sikh familly in Punjab and KhalsaAid ought to have no qualms about furnishing the details of one familly so that I could verify for myself and help directly.

[KHALSA AID]

I would also like to help in a small way but I too have seen the way our 'Leaders' behave and that is why I am also hesitant to give money to Sikh Orgs.

This may provoke a negative response but I am comfortable with my views.

I have seen the self-serving corruption of Gurdwara Committees with my own eyes.

I have seen a once devout Sikh familly convert to Christianity because the Vicar was the ONLY spiritual help this familly could get.

But I too would like to 'Adopt' a Sikh familly in Punjab and KhalsaAid ought to have no qualms about furnishing the details of one familly so that I could verify for myself and help directly.

Khoolasice, thank you for wishing to support the Sikhs in Punjab, India.

In regards to trust and accountability, Khalsa Aid has launched over 19 international aid relief programs over the last 11 years.

While we may have crititcs (mostly on Sikhsangat!), with Guru kirpa no one has ever been able to question the transparency of our projects in relation to funds and its usage. Recently two projects come to mind which demonstrate this, one was when Akbal Singh and another Singh donated for a water pump in Haiti and money for a dharmi fauji, we have published two videos which show the seva carried out as required by the donors.

With most charities the amounts donated would not have even covered weekly costs/wages etc let alone make it over to Haiti and Punjab (CEO of International Red Cross earns over 500k a year!)

In most projects it is members of the sangat who volunteer to go on international projects (we dont have paid relief workers), and these people who usually not known to us can verify the work carried out. If anyone wishes to do seva but not donate money, donate your time, why not approach Khalsa Aid and register your interest to volunteer abroad, all we ask is that you help raise funds for your costs (tickets etc).

For over 10 years Khalsa Aid was ran completely voluntarily, and even now have only one paid worker (for all admin, banking, supervise all curent projects etc).

In regards to sponsoring Sikh children and/or Dharmi Fauji, anyone who sponsors can have direct access with the families to confirm the seva, in fact we actively encourage donors to meet with the families if they travel to Punjab.

[Khoolasice]

Khoolasice, thank you for wishing to support the Sikhs in Punjab, India.

In regards to trust and accountability, Khalsa Aid has launched over 19 international aid relief programs over the last 11 years.

While we may have crititcs (mostly on Sikhsangat!), with Guru kirpa no one has ever been able to question the transparency of our projects in relation to funds and its usage. Recently two projects come to mind which demonstrate this, one was when Akbal Singh and another Singh donated for a water pump in Haiti and money for a dharmi fauji, we have published two videos which show the seva carried out as required by the donors.

With most charities the amounts donated would not have even covered weekly costs/wages etc let alone make it over to Haiti and Punjab (CEO of International Red Cross earns over 500k a year!)

In most projects it is members of the sangat who volunteer to go on international projects (we dont have paid relief workers), and these people who usually not known to us can verify the work carried out. If anyone wishes to do seva but not donate money, donate your time, why not approach Khalsa Aid and register your interest to volunteer abroad, all we ask is that you help raise funds for your costs (tickets etc).

For over 10 years Khalsa Aid was ran completely voluntarily, and even now have only one paid worker (for all admin, banking, supervise all curent projects etc).

In regards to sponsoring Sikh children and/or Dharmi Fauji, anyone who sponsors can have direct access with the families to confirm the seva, in fact we actively encourage donors to meet with the families if they travel to Punjab.

Khalsa Aid,

Thank you for you reply, please don't misunderstand me, I am not accusing you of anything.

I would just prefer to try and help in a small way directly.

For the sake of clarity, how much of every Pound received by you actually goes to the needy?