Is Sikhi A Missionary Religion

[Mehtab Singh]

Pray good digestion for all and say Vaheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa Vaheguroo Jee Kee Fateh

Sikhi is not a missionary religion in the Christian sense, rather "missionary" with respect to the fact that the Guru Sahibaan had a mission to preach truth to entire mankind.

- Mehtab Singh

[Balbir Singh]

Pray Truth for all and say Satsriakaal!

Dear all!

Mehtab Singh Jee wrote "Sikhi is not a missionary religion in the Christian sense, rather "missionary" with respect to the fact that the Guru Sahibaan had a mission to preach truth to entire mankind."

Guru Sahibaan did not have their own mission. They followed God's Hukam.

Truth is not imitating someone who is following God's Hukam.

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Please mention one thing that the missionary does. Subsequently let all know if Guru Sahibaan ever suggested that.

Balbir Singh

[kds1980]

Their actions are going to decide if they are following their religious teachings.When Guru sahib was asked at Mecca who is better

between a Hindu and Muslim, he replied

ਪੁਛਨਿ ਫੋਲਿ ਕਿਤਾਬ ਨੋ ਹਿੰਦੂ ਵਡਾ ਕਿ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨੋਈ ।

puchhani dholi kitaab no hindoo vadaa ki musalamaanoee|

They asked Baba Nanak to open and search in his book whether Hindu is great or the Muslim.

Line 3

ਬਾਬਾ ਆਖੇ ਹਾਜੀਆ ਸੁਭਿ ਅਮਲਾ ਬਾਝਹੁ ਦੋਨੋ ਰੋਈ ।

baabaa aakhay haajeeaa subhi amalaa baajhahu dono roee|

Baba replied to the pilgrim hajis, that, without good deeds both will have to weep and wail

ਹਿੰਦੂ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਨ ਦੁਇ ਦਰਗਹ ਅੰਦਰਿ ਲਹਨਿ ਨ ਢੋਈ ।

hindoo musalamaan dui daragah andari|ahani n ddhoee|

Only by being a Hindu or a Muslim one can not get accepted in the court of the Lord.

Line 5 ਕਚਾ ਰੰਗੁ ਕੁਸੰਭ ਦਾ ਪਾਣੀ ਧੋਤੈ ਥਿਰੁ ਨ ਰਹੋਈ ।

kachaa rangu kusanbh daa paanee dhotai diru n rahoee|

As the colour of safflower is impermanent and is washed away in water, likewise the colours of religiosity are also temporary.

Line 6 ਕਰਨਿ ਬਖੀਲੀ ਆਪਿ ਵਿਚਿ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਕੁਥਾਇ ਖਲੋਈ ।

karani bakheelee aapi vichi raam raheem kudaai khaloee|

(Followers of both the religions) In their expositions, denounce Ram and Rahim.

Line 7 ਰਾਹਿ ਸੈਤਾਨੀ ਦੁਨੀਆ ਗੋਈ ॥੩੩॥

raahi saitaanee duneeaa goee ॥33॥

The whole of the world is following the ways of Satan.

Vaar 1 pauri 33

This is not the answer to my question.You said that Guru's said follow your religion to the core.But Different Religions and their different sects have their own defination  of what is best.They are not going to accept what Guru Nanak dev ji said or other sikh guru said

Let me give you example Aurangzeb is considered as one of the best islamic ruler in history.He tried to follow islam to the core .He even ended drinking,gambling luxuries in court.so was Aurangzeb right or wrong?

[GPS]

This is not the answer to my question.You said that Guru's said follow your religion to the core.But Different Religions and their different sects have their own defination of what is best.They are not going to accept what Guru Nanak dev ji said or other sikh guru said

Let me give you example Aurangzeb is considered as one of the best islamic ruler in history.He tried to follow islam to the core .He even ended drinking,gambling luxuries in court.so was Aurangzeb right or wrong?

Auarngzeb may not be following what is written in their scriptures. He was forcing Islam on others.If they did not accept

it, they were killed.Is it written in their scripture? Most probably not.

He may be good for fanatics but he was not committing good deeds. We cann't call him a good muslim.

So the quote given above is relevant.

[MokhamSingh]

In Gursikhi there isn't conversion as such.

We are all born as Waheguru , i.e.

Born with unshorn hair.

Born uncircumcised.

Born without desires for lust , anger, ego , and greed.

Born without desires for alcohol , drugs , and tobacco etc.

Born whilst during simran.

As we grow older we lose sight of this under the nasha{intoxication} of maya{mammon} and that is why Gurbani parchar{preaching} is required in order to sober us up from this nasha.

Gursikhi doesn't convert , it brings us back to what we really are.

[Bijla Singh]

GPS Ji, you have not provided a single shred of evidence from Gurbani, Vaars and Kabits to back up your claims. You also failed to refute the arguments put forth by others. Your statement that Guru Sahib never “asked” anyone to change religion is seriously an insulting comment towards the Gurus. Verb ‘ask’ means to make a request. Certainly, Guru Sahib never requested anyone to become a Sikh. Rather he preached Gurmat which inspired people to adopt Gurmat. People didn’t just wake up one morning and decided to become Sikhs “on their own”. It was the result of missionary work carried out by the Gurus and the Sikhs. Word “missionary” is used for a person who undertakes a mission especially a religious mission. Guru Nanak Sahib in his own hymns states that he was given the divine mission to preach. Bhai Gurdas Ji narrates the same incident. Nowhere in Gurbani is it stated that a person should follow their respective religion strictly. In fact, the word Hindu is not even redefined in Gurbani whereas words Pandit, Brahmin, Muslim, Sheikh, Yogi, Sanyasi, Mullah, Qazi etc are defined according to Gurmat.

Guru Sahib never asked anyone but rather told everyone to follow Gurmat (the true path). He told Sajjan thug to become a true Sajjan and even composed a Shabad (Ujjal Kaiha Chilkana..). He wasn’t asking but telling him to renounce his false activities and follow the true path, a path which Guru Sahib preached not the one in Vedas or Puranas. He told Siddhas that they were wrong. He told Hindus in Hardawar, Ayodheya, Tanda etc that they were wrong. He told Muslims in Mecca that they were wrong. Guru Gobind Singh Ji told hill kings to take Amrit but when they requested a separate Amrit Sanchaar for themselves Guru Sahib refused. So the point is, missionary work had a clear purpose which was to preach Gurmat so that people would be motivated to become Sikhs. Gurbani is full of Guru’s Hukam (not requests) which applies to everyone. Hence, Gurbani is telling people to renounce their false religions. Gurbani clearly rejects Islam and Hinduism and so does Dasam Granth.

Coming to Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, he himself said in his own speeches that he administered Amrit to 10,000 people in a day. Again, he repeatedly told everyone especially the youth to become Amritdharis meaning to become Sikhs. Why he said Hindu should be a true Hindu and a Muslim should be a true Muslim is best known to him. Maybe for political reasons or maybe he meant they should be true according to Gurbani.

You told me in another topic that unless one has read the scripture they should not comment on it so why are you commenting on Islam without ever having read Quran and Hadiths? Quran clearly tells Muslims to suppress non-Muslims and force them to convert. Aurangzeb followed Islam to the core and so did Jahangir. Try comparing definition of a Muslim in Quran to Gurbani and see the difference yourself. There is not a single verse in Gurbani that tells Muslims to follow Islam.

Again, missionary work is not wrong but methods to carry out this work could be wrong. There is nothing wrong in preaching and telling others to become Sikhs but if we use the same methods as Muslims or Christians then certainly we will be wrong. Unless you provide some credible evidence from Gurbani that we shouldn’t preach Gurmat, your statements will only be counted as personal opinions and not facts. Guru Rakha

[GPS]

Bijla singh ji

Instead of writing trivial matters, back up your claim by quotes from Gurbani where Guru sahibs wrote that people of other faiths should convert to sikhism.

I have given enough evidence wherein Guru sahibs ask people to be good human beings. Guru sahibs laid stress on good

conduct rather than asking people to convert.

Guru sahib visited pilgrimage places, you have mentioned , not to convert people but to advise them about futility of empty rituals.

Gurbani tells people to renounce false rituals and not their religion.

Gurbani says

ਦੁਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਸੁਕ੍ਰਿਤ ਮੰਧੇ ਸੰਸਾਰੁ ਸਗਲਾਣਾ ॥

दुक्रित सुक्रित मंधे संसारु सगलाणा ॥

Ḏukariṯ sukariṯ manḏẖe sansār saglāṇā.

The whole world is engrossed in bad deeds and good deeds.

ਦੁਹਹੂੰ ਤੇ ਰਹਤ ਭਗਤੁ ਹੈ ਕੋਈ ਵਿਰਲਾ ਜਾਣਾ ॥੧॥

दुहहूं ते रहत भगतु है कोई विरला जाणा ॥१॥

Ḏuhhūʼn ṯe rahaṯ bẖagaṯ hai ko▫ī virlā jāṇā. ||1||

God's devotee is above both, but those who understand this are very rare. ||1||

Ang 51

The stress is on self purification for realization of God.

Coming to Sant Jarnail Singh Ji, he himself said in his own speeches that he administered Amrit to 10,000 people in a day. Again, he repeatedly told everyone especially the youth to become Amritdharis meaning to become Sikhs

That does not amount to conversion we are talking here. He was baptizing sikhs who were not amritdharis yet.

You told me in another topic that unless one has read the scripture they should not comment on it so why are you commenting on Islam without ever having read Quran and Hadiths? Quran clearly tells Muslims to suppress non-Muslims and force them to convert. Aurangzeb followed Islam to the core and so did Jahangir. Try comparing definition of a Muslim in Quran to Gurbani and see the difference yourself. There is not a single verse in Gurbani that tells Muslims to follow Islam.

This does not relate to the topic. I have not read quran neither do i need to.But it is fair to make an assesment that no religious scripture outlines to

resort to murder to convert people of other faiths.

It seems you have read quran.So let us know the verse from Quran that says to kill people if they do not agree to convert.

You term Aurangzeb as following core of islam.He imprisioned his own father to get power.He killed his own brothers.

Where does quran teach Muslims such actions?

[GPS]

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥

सलोकु मः १ ॥

Salok mėhlā 1.

Shalok, First Mehl:

ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵਣੁ ਮੁਸਕਲੁ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥

मुसलमाणु कहावणु मुसकलु जा होइ ता मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥

Musalmāṇ kahāvaṇ muskal jā ho▫e ṯā musalmāṇ kahāvai.

It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.

ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲੁ ਮੁਸਾਵੈ ॥

अवलि अउलि दीनु करि मिठा मसकल माना मालु मुसावै ॥

Aval a▫ul ḏīn kar miṯẖā maskal mānā māl musāvai.

First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.

ਹੋਇ ਮੁਸਲਿਮੁ ਦੀਨ ਮੁਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਵੈ ॥

होइ मुसलिमु दीन मुहाणै मरण जीवण का भरमु चुकावै ॥

Ho▫e muslim ḏīn muhāṇai maraṇ jīvaṇ kā bẖaram cẖukẖāvai.

Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.

ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥

रब की रजाइ मंने सिर उपरि करता मंने आपु गवावै ॥

Rab kī rajā▫e manne sir upar karṯā manne āp gavāvai.

As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.

ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥

तउ नानक सरब जीआ मिहरमति होइ त मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥१॥

Ŧa▫o Nānak sarab jī▫ā mihramaṯ ho▫e ṯa musalmāṇ kahāvai. ||1||

And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. ||

Guru Nanak Dev ji in SGGS ji, ang 141

[Bijla Singh]

In Hinduism people worship idols, keep fast, worship demi gods and goddesses, consider taking bath in Ganga as holy acts, read Vedas and other books, wear janeu, indulge in empty rituals etc, all of which is rejected in Gurbani. If a Hindu was to follow Gurbani he will have to renounce everything he is required to do in Hinduism. It is simply an irrational statement to say that Gurbani tells Hindus to renounce their rituals but not religion. What is left of Hinduism without these rituals? What is left of Islam without fast, hajj, circumcision, five prayers, judgment day, halal etc which are rejected in Gurbani? Had you understood Gurbani you would not have made any senseless statements. I can certainly provide quotes from Gurbani that reject the above stated practices and ceremonies of Hinduism and Islam. Just let me know for which you want the quotes specifically. Provide any one Shabad which advises Hindus and Muslims to follow their respective religions and scriptures. This will be your evidence which you have not provided yet. So far you have been beating around the bush by providing irrelevant quotes which do not support your claims.

There is a big difference between asking and telling. Is Guru Sahib asking (requesting) us to follow him in Gurbani or giving us hukams? Guru Sahib went to holy places of Hindus to tell them the futility of visiting such places which clearly means he was rejecting their religious practices. You are saying that Guru Sahib told people to renounce false rituals but these rituals were and still are part of their religion so what is a religion without any practices? How could Guru Sahib “ask” Hindus to renounce their religious practices but not religion? You need to make more sense. Guru Sahib didn’t roam around to give out advice but as Bhai Gurdas Ji says “Chareya Sodhan Dharat Lukayee”. Contemplate on this pauri for better understanding.

On one hand you state that Guru Sahib wanted people to do good deeds but the quote you provided says that the entire world is engrossed in good and bad deeds but God’s devotee is above them. The quote actually refutes your own arguments not supports them. Also, what is good? Is good in Gurmat the same in Islam and Hinduism? Absolutely not. Guru Sahib didn’t preach idol worship as a good act but an act of blindness.

That does not amount to conversion we are talking here. He was baptizing sikhs who were not amritdharis yet.

So what you are saying is that a person who is not Amritdhari is a Sikh. This is false and has no basis in Gurmat. Without Amrit no one is a Sikh because this is the way to get Naam from Satguru. In Gurmat taking Amrit means becoming a Sikh. It is the first step. This has been discussed before so do a search and read them first before writing the same old arguments.

Again, don’t comment on something you have not read. You are making false assumptions. Had you read a little bit of Quran and Vedas you would’ve realized that they do not support Gurmat viewpoint. Is our history not enough of a proof? Aurangzeb’s policy was the influence of Naqashbandi order which started with Sheikh Sirhindi. The policy towards non-Muslims comes from Quran. Here are few quotes from Quran about non-Muslims.

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers." (5:51)

"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (48:29)

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and pay the alms-tax, let them go their way. Allah is forgiving and merciful." (9:5)

And slay them (the infidels) wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out, for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. (2:193)

"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (9:73)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (8:37)

Gurbani teaches us that there is one Satguru (Guru Nanak Sahib) in the world. Naam is obtained from Satguru. Without Naam no one can be saved. This means only Gurmat is the true path since Mohammad and Hindu avtars were not and are not considered Satguru. They also did not give out Naam. Gurbani is not an instructional manual. You need to study it to understand the gist of it. It won’t say “Adopt Gurmat” but it will go in-depth to explain the true path, its practices and how to become a true Sikh. Gurbani defines Gurmat and all definitions of Muslim, Pandit, Brahmin, Mullah etc are synonymous with definition of a Gursikh. Gurmat is a distinct and unique path. It was started because other religions did not offer true salvation and had fogged the truth. Hence, they were incomplete. Guru Sahib preached the true path not just another way to reach God. Those who do not understand and practice Gurbani can never understand this fact. Do not copy paste Shabads with false English translation. It doesn’t add any credibility to your posts. The Shabad you posted has already been explained here: http://searchsikhism.com/islam1.html Guru Rakha

[GPS]

In Hinduism people worship idols, keep fast, worship demi gods and goddesses, consider taking bath in Ganga as holy acts, read Vedas and other books, wear janeu, indulge in empty rituals etc, all of which is rejected in Gurbani. If a Hindu was to follow Gurbani he will have to renounce everything he is required to do in Hinduism. It is simply an irrational statement to say that Gurbani tells Hindus to renounce their rituals but not religion. What is left of Hinduism without these rituals? What is left of Islam without fast, hajj, circumcision, five prayers, judgment day, halal etc which are rejected in Gurbani? Had you understood Gurbani you would not have made any senseless statements. I can certainly provide quotes from Gurbani that reject the above stated practices and ceremonies of Hinduism and Islam. Just let me know for which you want the quotes specifically. Provide any one Shabad which advises Hindus and Muslims to follow their respective religions and scriptures. This will be your evidence which you have not provided yet. So far you have been beating around the bush by providing irrelevant quotes which do not support your claims

These are rituals adopted by people of those faiths. Guru ji condemned those rituals where salvation is desired only by adopting these rituals without remembering God.

They condemned such practices only and not their religious texts.

Did you not see the quote below? If you have not read it it is given below

ਸਲੋਕੁ ਮਃ ੧ ॥

सलोकु मः १ ॥

Salok mėhlā 1.

Shalok, First Mehl:

ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵਣੁ ਮੁਸਕਲੁ ਜਾ ਹੋਇ ਤਾ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥

मुसलमाणु कहावणु मुसकलु जा होइ ता मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥

Musalmāṇ kahāvaṇ muskal jā ho▫e ṯā musalmāṇ kahāvai.

It is difficult to be called a Muslim; if one is truly a Muslim, then he may be called one.

ਅਵਲਿ ਅਉਲਿ ਦੀਨੁ ਕਰਿ ਮਿਠਾ ਮਸਕਲ ਮਾਨਾ ਮਾਲੁ ਮੁਸਾਵੈ ॥

अवलि अउलि दीनु करि मिठा मसकल माना मालु मुसावै ॥

Aval a▫ul ḏīn kar miṯẖā maskal mānā māl musāvai.

First, let him savor the religion of the Prophet as sweet; then, let his pride of his possessions be scraped away.

ਹੋਇ ਮੁਸਲਿਮੁ ਦੀਨ ਮੁਹਾਣੈ ਮਰਣ ਜੀਵਣ ਕਾ ਭਰਮੁ ਚੁਕਾਵੈ ॥

होइ मुसलिमु दीन मुहाणै मरण जीवण का भरमु चुकावै ॥

Ho▫e muslim ḏīn muhāṇai maraṇ jīvaṇ kā bẖaram cẖukẖāvai.

Becoming a true Muslim, a disciple of the faith of Mohammed, let him put aside the delusion of death and life.

ਰਬ ਕੀ ਰਜਾਇ ਮੰਨੇ ਸਿਰ ਉਪਰਿ ਕਰਤਾ ਮੰਨੇ ਆਪੁ ਗਵਾਵੈ ॥

रब की रजाइ मंने सिर उपरि करता मंने आपु गवावै ॥

Rab kī rajā▫e manne sir upar karṯā manne āp gavāvai.

As he submits to God's Will, and surrenders to the Creator, he is rid of selfishness and conceit.

ਤਉ ਨਾਨਕ ਸਰਬ ਜੀਆ ਮਿਹਰੰਮਤਿ ਹੋਇ ਤ ਮੁਸਲਮਾਣੁ ਕਹਾਵੈ ॥੧॥

तउ नानक सरब जीआ मिहरमति होइ त मुसलमाणु कहावै ॥१॥

Ŧa▫o Nānak sarab jī▫ā mihramaṯ ho▫e ṯa musalmāṇ kahāvai. ||1||

And when, O Nanak, he is merciful to all beings, only then shall he be called a Muslim. ||

Guru Nanak Dev ji in SGGS ji, ang 141

Now it is your turn to provide a quote from Gurbani wherein Guru sahib is writing that other religions are worthless and only his way is supreme.

This is to belittle sikh teachings out of ignorance.

Sikhism is one of paths to realization of God and simpler one. Guru sahib never claimed sikhism as being the only religion that can lead to God

and other religions cann't.To say so is ignorance fo sikh teachings.

There is a big difference between asking and telling. Is Guru Sahib asking (requesting) us to follow him in Gurbani or giving us hukams? Guru Sahib went to holy places of Hindus to tell them the futility of visiting such places which clearly means he was rejecting their religious practices. You are saying that Guru Sahib told people to renounce false rituals but these rituals were and still are part of their religion so what is a religion without any practices? How could Guru Sahib "ask" Hindus to renounce their religious practices but not religion? You need to make more sense. Guru Sahib didn't roam around to give out advice but as Bhai Gurdas Ji says "Chareya Sodhan Dharat Lukayee". Contemplate on this pauri for better understanding.

This is again a childish writing.Asking has many meanings and not only request that you are harping upon.See dictionary properly.

Over a period of time because of dirty practices of middlemen Hindus had developed empty rituals.That does not mean that their

original scriptures were bad. guru sahib is condemning those senseless practices where salvation is desired only from rituals

and there is no effort to remember God by the seeker.

So what you are saying is that a person who is not Amritdhari is a Sikh. This is false and has no basis in Gurmat. Without Amrit no one is a Sikh because this is the way to get Naam from Satguru. In Gurmat taking Amrit means becoming a Sikh. It is the first step. This has been discussed before so do a search and read them first before writing the same old arguments.

Do not jump to non issues.We can discuss these in a separate thread. The fact is that Bhindrewale never claimed as you are telling us here that he converted 10,000 persons in

one day.Understand the meaning of conversion first.

Again, don't comment on something you have not read. You are making false assumptions. Had you read a little bit of Quran and Vedas you would've realized that they do not support Gurmat viewpoint. Is our history not enough of a proof? Aurangzeb's policy was the influence of Naqashbandi order which started with Sheikh Sirhindi. The policy towards non-Muslims comes from Quran. Here are few quotes from Quran about non-Muslims.

"Believers, take neither Jews nor Christians for your friends. They are friends with one another. Whoever of you seeks their friendship shall become one of their number. Allah does not guide the wrongdoers." (5:51)

"Mohammed is Allah's apostle. Those who follow him are ruthless to the unbelievers but merciful to one another." (48:29)

"When the sacred months are over slay the idolaters wherever you find them. Arrest them, besiege them, and lie in ambush everywhere for them. If they repent and take to prayer and pay the alms-tax, let them go their way. Allah is forgiving and merciful." (9:5)

And slay them (the infidels) wherever you catch them, and turn them out from where they have turned you out, for tumult and oppression are worse than slaughter. (2:193)

"O Prophet! Make war against the unbelievers [all non-Muslims] and the hypocrites and be merciless against them. Their home is hell, an evil refuge indeed." (9:73)

"In order that Allah may separate the pure from the impure, put all the impure ones [all non-Muslims] one on top of another in a heap and cast them into hell. They will have been the ones to have lost." (8:37)

Unlike you ,I am not a scholar of other religions.There are many other quotations from quran that i read on the net that says otherwise.you have to read the verses with proper context.

I will put those here for your reference

Gurbani teaches us that there is one Satguru (Guru Nanak Sahib) in the world. Naam is obtained from Satguru. Without Naam no one can be saved. This means only Gurmat is the true path since Mohammad and Hindu avtars were not and are not considered Satguru. They also did not give out Naam. Gurbani is not an instructional manual. You need to study it to understand the gist of it. It won't say "Adopt Gurmat" but it will go in-depth to explain the true path, its practices and how to become a true Sikh. Gurbani defines Gurmat and all definitions of Muslim, Pandit, Brahmin, Mullah etc are synonymous with definition of a Gursikh. Gurmat is a distinct and unique path. It was started because other religions did not offer true salvation and had fogged the truth. Hence, they were incomplete. Guru Sahib preached the true path not just another way to reach God. Those who do not understand and practice Gurbani can never understand this fact. Do not copy paste Shabads with false English translation. It doesn't add any credibility to your posts. The Shabad you posted has already been explained here: http://searchsikhism.com/islam1.html Guru Rakha

Gurbani is for sikhs to follow. It is true path for sikhs.But we give respect to other religions also. It is senseless to adopt a FANATIC approach and condemn other religions.

Instead of talking childish over minor issues, post shabad here from SGGS where converting others to sikhism is recommended by Guru sahib.

Do not twist issues under discussion.Topic is " Is sikhism a missionary religion". In simple language it means Does sikhism promote converting people from

other religions.Stay focused in your replies instead of broadening the discussion.It is childish to bring in extraneous issues.

I am not here to claim any credit for my posts. Neither do i intend to belittle anybody's scholarship.Let us engage in discussion without losing civility.