National Anti-Beadbi Rally At Dudley, Uk -* Cancelled *-

[SukhdevSinghMedare]

Sukhdev Singh Ji you have posted the same message about 5 times which we have had to delete, please don't just copy the same post again and again.

I thought they were all slightly different?

Sukhdev Singh Ji you have posted the same message about 5 times which we have had to delete, please don't just copy the same post again and again.

As for this hall, you are claiming this hall is to pay for the Gurdwara, really if you are encouraging activites such as drinking, meat eating, dirty music and partying, whats the point of preserving the Gurdwara anyway if you are turning people away from Maharaj?

Are you moderating or taking sides?

Dirty music ?

[pastachef]

ame='Singhstah' timestamp='1306160160' post='498762']

Sukhdev Singh Ji you have posted the same message about 5 times which we have had to delete, please don't just copy the same post again and again.

I thought they were all slightly different?

Are you moderating or taking sides?

Dirty music ?

Are you being a Sikh or taking sides? Take the side of your Guru for once.

[SukhdevSinghMedare]

Are you being a Sikh or taking sides? Take the side of your Guru for once.

Ok when all donations to the golak are screened I will admit your right

[Singhstah]

Let me ask you one question. What do you think Guru Nanak Dev Ji would say about this? Be honest. Do you ever see him saying yes go ahead and have a party with meat and alcohol? Its as simple as that.

I'll give you some help, have a look at the sakhi of malik bhago.

[pastachef]

3) Is the income generated from the hall honest , when the hall is hosting alcohol and meat parties?

I ask you pasta chef, are the donations made to the Gurdwara earned honestly?

Many donations come from people who sell alcohol and tobacco or divert tax money etc

Your logic would imply we must screen all donations!

Your question is totally invalid because the context are different. People can donate 1 million pounds but Guru ji will not accept. This has been shown by our Gurus with countless examples (bhai lallo sakhi). What you are saying is that It is perfectly acceptable to use Guru Ghar and the donations to start up dishonest business, business which actually goes against the teachings of sikhi.

The funny thing is that in most situations the Guru ghars don't even need the extra income.

I do to my Gurdwara's Sangat not some internet Sikh's calling themselves "UK Sangat"and how can you be a legitimate sangat without a Gurdwara!.

That has to be the most stupidest comment ever, majority of the people who post here belong to a gurdwara. As for can someone from another town be classed as sangat of your gurdwara or not well, Guru Arjan Dev ji actually did seva of sangat who was visiting from kabul. So by your definition they werent sangat because they were not local.

[SukhdevSinghMedare]

Let me ask you one question. What do you think Guru Nanak Dev Ji would say about this? Be honest. Do you ever see him saying yes go ahead and have a party with meat and alcohol? Its as simple as that.

I'll give you some help, have a look at the sakhi of malik bhago.

I understand, you hate parties ,music and do not like subsidiarity.

[SukhdevSinghMedare]

Your question is totally invalid because the context are different. People can donate 1 million pounds but Guru ji will not accept. This has been shown by our Gurus with countless examples (bhai lallo sakhi). What you are saying is that It is perfectly acceptable to use Guru Ghar and the donations to start up dishonest business, business which actually goes against the teachings of sikhi.

That has to be the most stupidest comment ever, majority of the people who post here belong to a gurdwara. As for can someone from another town be classed as sangat of your gurdwara or not well, Guru Arjan Dev ji actually did seva of sangat who was visiting from kabul. So by your definition they werent sangat because they were not local.

It is valid because when we go and donate is being accepted tacitly, I suggest you run those Gurdwara's to which you belong ,oh sorry they won,t let you !

[pastachef]

haha, you been proven wrong and you are now resorting to cheap shots.

[Wolverine5]

Then I suggest you run those Gurdwara's to which you belong ,oh sorry they won,t let you !

Oi! Maderia Cake. Enough of your Baqwas! How dare you disprect Guru Mahraj's Hukam. People like you have you shame or fear. Just remember this, we All have to answer to him when our time comes. Some sooner rather than later.

I do Ardas for you and the others that are blinded by this, that Guru Maharaj show you the correct way. It's still not to late.

Moderators, Benti in your Charan, please stop any further ratlling posts of this nature. Please let us focus on the reason why we will be protesting Peacefully on the day.

Bull Chuk Maaf.

[SinghWarrior]

I had to do some research to work out what you meant by subsidiarity. When I found out what it meant, my reply is that you should understand that the Sikh faith works along the basis of a Nation/Quam/Panth. Therefore, your concept of subsidiarity only applies in a general sense, though where there is a gross abuse of Sikh principles (as the Dudley committee is doing), akal takht has every right to intervene and override what the locals are doing.

THIS IS THE SIKH WAY OF DOING THINGS. IF THE DUDLEY GURDWARA COMMITTEE DISAGREES WITH THIS, THEY SHOULD RESIGN FROM THEIR POSITIONS AS CUSTODIANS OF A GURDWARA!