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[DDAVIDALE]

Are havans allowed in sikhi i.e. fires? What are they for and what's the history behind them; can we refer to them in Gurbani?

Certain sects within the sikhi fold do them, any explanations would be appreciated...

[BhagatBalmik]

certain sects do haven like the namdharis they usually do a haven during weddings. Also a interesting passage in Giani Gian Singh's naveen panth prakash 1880 stats that Baba Deep Singh Ji did a Akand Path and a Havan before going to battle. Read the last line.

ਦੀਪ ਸਿੰਘ ਸ਼ਾਹੀਦ ਕੀ ਗਾਥਾ ਸੁਨੋ ਉਦਾਰ । ਧਰਮ ਜੁੱਧ ਕਰਿ ਸਿਰ ਦਯੋ ਥਯੋ ਸ਼ਹੀਦ ਵਿਚਾਰ ।

Oh world listen to the story of Shaheed Deep Singh, For Dharam Judh he gave his head, contemplate how he attained martyrdom.

ਮਿਸਲ ਸ਼ਹੀਦਨ ਕਾ ਸਰਦਾਰੈਂ ॥ ਨਿਕਟਿ ਜਲੰਧਰ ਗ੍ਰਾਮ ਦੁਕੋਹੇ । ਕੇਰ ਹੁਤੋ ਸੰਧੂ ਜਟ ਵੋਹੇ ।੮।

Baba Deep Singh was the leader of the Misal Shaheedan, He was born near the town of Jalandar at Dukohe, and was a Sandhu Jatt.

ਅਧਿਕ ਦਮਦਮੇਂ ਰਹਿ ਤਲਵੰਡੀ । ਹੁਤੋ ਬੀਰ ਬਰ ਬਲੀ ਘਮੰਡੀ ।

He would remain at Damdama Sahib in Talwandi. He was a great and brave warrior.

ਸੁਨਿ ਬੇਅਦਬੀ ਬਹੁ ਗੁਰੁਦ੍ਵਾਰੈਂ ।ਚੰਡੀ ਚਢੀ ਤਾਂਹਿ ਅਤਿ ਭਾਰੈਂ ।੯।

When hearing about the disrespect at the Gurdrawa [Harimandar], The spirit of Chandi arose within him.

ਸੁਨਿ ਸਿੰਘ ਪਾਠ ਅਖੰਡ ਕਰਾਯੋ । ਹਮਨ ਕਰਯੋ ਕੰਗਨਾ ਬੰਧਵਾਯੋ ।

Baba Ji organized an Akhand Paat and completed a Havan [before heading towards the battle] and tied a wedding bracelet around his wrist [a preparation for martyrdom as death is seen as a merging with their beloved Lord]

[Not2Cool2Argue]

I don't think Havans are allowed in Sikhi, they are part of the Hindu religion and some people have adopted Havans along with Sikhi.

The Hindus believe that the fire god is a witness to their weddings, and that he is a messanger to gods that is why they use fires.

And the ithiaas books such as Prateen Panth Prakash, Suraj Prakash, are not really exactly accurate. They were written

a long time after the historical events recorded in them and they recorded all the Sakhis/stories prevalent at that time without doing research, or finding the source.

This can be a good thing because that means that means they recorded everything that they heard at that time and we can

decide what is true or not. And this way there are no sakhis that would have been left out if they decided to be select some

and dicard others.