Jeevan Moukhthi

matey123 · April 14, 2012

if u become a sant would u be able to ge tjeevan moukhi

Sherdil · April 14, 2012

Jeevan mukhti is liberation of the soul from the circle of birth and death. It is achieved by making your mind attuned to the naam. Sant is just a title conferred upon someone. Adding Sant in front of your name does not make you a jeevan mukht. Although, Sants probably spend more time than the average person, meditating on naam. Becoming jeevan mukht is not a common thing. If someone was jeevan mukht, I doubt they would declare it. I don't know if I've ever met one, to be honest. I'm still trying to get there myself.

Mat Pulo Rai · April 15, 2012

Jeevan mukhti is liberation of the soul from the circle of birth and death. It is achieved by making your mind attuned to the naam. Sant is just a title conferred upon someone. Adding Sant in front of your name does not make you a jeevan mukht. Although, Sants probably spend more time than the average person, meditating on naam. Becoming jeevan mukht is not a common thing. If someone was jeevan mukht, I doubt they would declare it. I don't know if I've ever met one, to be honest. I'm still trying to get there myself.

Do you know what it is to be jeven mukth, what would the signs be?

As for the question Gurbani says yes you can be Jevan Mukt, gurbani calls it living Dead.

jeevath marai marai fun jeevai thaa mokhanthar paaeae |

But if he remains dead while yet alive, then by so dying, he truly lives; thus, he attains liberation.

Sherdil · April 15, 2012

When you are liberated, you lift the illusion of Maya (the material world). You become detached. You don't desire anything, you don't fear anything or anyone. You see life as a game to be played. Things that used to bother you become insignificant. They don't matter. You don't need to prove yourself to anyone. You don't need validation from anyone.

We can test the effects of Maya scientifically. Ask two people to drink from the same cup of tea. One person will say it is sweet. The other person will say it is bitter. Who is right? You can't prove either of their statements to be true, because their observations are relative. Truth cannot be relative. By definition, truth is universal. God is truth. Attachment to material things will take you farther from the truth and therefore farther from God.

"Aadh sach, jugadh sach, hai bhee sach. Nanak hosee bhee sach"

- He was true in the beginning, true through the ages, He is true now. Nanak, He will always be true.

An analogy I can draw is the process of getting older and maturing. Think back to when you were a child. Remember all the things that used to bother you. The problems that you thought you had, now seem trivial.

I can't give you a checklist to see if you are jeevan mukht. When you know, you just know. Or maybe you never realize it. I don't know.

This is just my 2 cents. I would say always look for the truth yourself. Don't believe the ramblings of a fool you meet on the internet. I'm just trying to figure it out like everyone else.

Mat Pulo Rai · April 15, 2012

When you are liberated, you lift the illusion of Maya (the material world). You become detached. You don't desire anything, you don't fear anything or anyone. You see life as a game to be played. Things that used to bother you become insignificant. They don't matter. You don't need to prove yourself to anyone. You don't need validation from anyone.

We can test the effects of Maya scientifically. Ask two people to drink from the same cup of tea. One person will say it is sweet. The other person will say it is bitter. Who is right? You can't prove either of their statements to be true, because their observations are relative. Truth cannot be relative. By definition, truth is universal. God is truth. Attachment to material things will take you farther from the truth and therefore farther from God.

"Aadh sach, jugadh sach, hai bhee sach. Nanak hosee bhee sach"

- He was true in the beginning, true through the ages, He is true now. Nanak, He will always be true.

An analogy I can draw is the process of getting older and maturing. Think back to when you were a child. Remember all the things that used to bother you. The problems that you thought you had, now seem trivial.

I can't give you a checklist to see if you are jeevan mukht. When you know, you just know. Or maybe you never realize it. I don't know.

This is just my 2 cents. I would say always look for the truth yourself. Don't believe the ramblings of a fool you meet on the internet. I'm just trying to figure it out like everyone else.

The bit highlighted is the important thing which only comes with age and maturity, as we are in a day and age, too confident with our opinions, we take them as learned objective views, when really our concept of divinity is close to nil, and only based on the little research we have done, and not backed by Practical Avastas or Jeveen.

As for what Guru jee says, we are in a time where everyone will have a opinion, whether that be a learned one or unlearned, they are called Mooraks who have not seen God or Heard God and try to explain the Game and Spiritual world he has created

So that no human being will ever be confused, at the meaning of liberation, signs of Being Mukt are within Gurbani

First we achieve mukti while alive and not when we pass

jeevan mukath har paavai soe |

They become Jivan-mukta, liberated while yet alive, and they find the Lord.

These are the identifications of a Jevan Mukth

nij ghar vasehi anmrith peevehi thaa sukh lehehi mehal |1| rehaao |

Dwell within the home of your own inner being, and drink in the Ambrosial Nectar; you shall attain the Peace of the Mansion of His Presence. ||1||Pause||

athaareh sidhee pishai lageeaa firan nij ghar vasai nij thaae |

The Siddhis-the eighteen supernatural spiritual powers-follow in my footsteps; I dwell in my True home, within my self.

These people keep the True Rehath that Guru Amar Das jee left us

dhasavai dhuaar rehath karae thribhavan sojhee paae |3|

Doing the rehath of the Tenth gate, He obtains the understanding of the three worlds. ||3||