Urgent Panthic Meeting West Bromwich Re: Radha Soami's

[BhagatBalmik]

If you check out all the videos the sikhchannel did on the Radhaswamis they all have very high number of dislikes, the radhaswami are highly organized.

[RebelSingh]

If you check out all the videos the sikhchannel did on the Radhaswamis they all have very high number of dislikes, the radhaswami are highly organized.

but i jus disliked it aswell, coz they smashed up a gurdwara, surely the dislike r frm sikhs paaji. or am i gettin it wrong? coz im hardly gonna click like on that page, whereas those fools wud.

[UKLondonSikh]

Jonny = Veerji, Jaimal Singh believed in Swami Shiv Dayal as his Satguru. This is evident in the letters he wrote to Sawan Singh, the guy who eventually succeeded him. Later these letters were collected and published as a book called spiritual letters.

UK = Yes Paji, i think that's where Jaimal Singh of RSSB perhaps veered away being an Amritdhari and may well have been patit by the end, if he truly did interpret tobacco+paan addicted Shiv Dayal as God in human form (LoL) by the end of his life

Jonny = Shiv Dayal wasn't a Nirankari.

UK = Yep Paji, the Dayal Singh i mentioned was the Nirankari founder as opposed to "Shiv"-Dayal of the Radha Soami's

Jonny =

(Shiv-Dayal) ... was from a family who believed in the Gurus to some degree and even did paath. Later he began doing sangat of Nirmalas from whom he began learning. He even began doing katha at the local Gurdwara. He was a heavy smoker of hooka and chewed a lot of tobacco paan. When Sikh soldiers who were stationed near by began coming to the Gurdwara he was doing Katha, many raised objections of how can a hooka smoker and paan chewer be allowed to do Katha, then he stopped doing his katha at the gurdwara but started privately in his own home. Jaimal Singh who was a Sikh soldier began doing his sangat during that time.

UK = Agreed

When Shiv Dayal died, many began to claim the little of Guruship. Jaimal Singh was one of them. At first he did not do it openly, but only privately amongst his close followers because he did not want to offend the central authority of the Radhasoami faith in Agra and who had better claim to being the successors of Shiv Dayal than Jaimal SIngh who was an unknown rogue at the time. The claimants who had a better case and much more following was Rai Saligram(the closest chela of Swami SD), Shiv Dayal's own brother, and his wife. The Radhasoami faith is a fake hybred faith mixing Sikhism, with Yoga, and Sufism. Nothing original. It is not a religion created by enlightened men.

UK = Agreed though there was a time a few years either side of 1891 when Jaimal Singh was an Amritdhari

Baba Ram Singh Namdhari on the other hand was a different case from these rogues. He was a pious Gursikh whose Chelas began calling him a Guru after he died. It's unfortunate the Kookas had to go the wrong way, otherwise they could have made very good Sikhs today.

UK = Exactly