Jump to content

Baba Joginder Singh Domeli Wale


Recommended Posts

Guest History

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh...I would like to begin with saying sorry, I have tried logging in with my own account but for unknown reason it will not let me log in so before anyone decides to state that this topic does not need to be in the gupt section...I KNOW! Thank you. So seeing as the forum log in is annoying me, I have no choice but to ask my question here.

Could someone share some background/history about Baba Joginder Singh Ji Domeli wale (West Bromich) please? I have heard his Kirtan on YouTube and it sounds beautiful, unfortunately there is not much about him on the internet (googled it lol) so I would love to learn about him. Without sounding too crude but is Baba Ji your typical Nanaksar Baba - I do not want to sound offensive but he's not the type that has people do matha tekh to him does he? What's his background/history and what's his jeevan like. Also it is intrguing to see a nihang singh youth sitting with him doing kirtan - is that his son? both Baba Ji and this naujwan look chardi kala...

phul chk maafi. Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa Waheguru Ji Ki Fatehh

Link to post
Share on other sites

Singh's have a lot of audio files of his katha and keertan, he is very proficient in both. He has the bakshish from Sant Harbans Singh Domelivale,

he is a great Gurmukh remaining very gupt nowadays and done a lot of seva in his life time for the sikh nation.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Panch Parvaan

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa.

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Baba Joginder Singh ji originally came to the UK with Sant Baba Harbans Singh Ji Damelivale, and together will the full support of the Sangat they built and established Guru Har Rai Sahib's Darbar in West Bromwich. They have dedicated their whole life to Sikhi and are still carrying out seva given to them by Baba Harbans Singh Ji and the sangat.

As PAL 07 mentioned Baba Ji is quite Gupt, yet they have carried out and are still doing alot of seva for the panth in the uk, India, Punjab and especially in Sri Anandpur Sahib.

Before Sant Baba Harbans Singh Ji left this earth they gave a few bachans for Baba Joginder Singh Ji to do and full-fill; amongst these was to do the Bhalla of people and that this seva should take place in Sri Anandpur Sahib. Baba Ji has full-filled these bachans and now they are currently holding a free eye-camp every month, which is open to all. Moreover, Baba ji has built a yatri niwas in Anandpur Sahib for the Sangat to stay, it is called the Mata Sahib Kaur Yatri Niwas again this was accomplished with the support of the sangat of both Anandpur Sahib and worldwide. This Niwas was greatly needed for the sangat especially during Holla Mohalla, Vaisakhi and also throughout the year. In Addition they have built a Guru Ghar in Anandpur Sahib on Guru Har Rai sahib Ji's name, and Baba Joginder Singh Ji has immense satkaar and belief in Sri Guru Har Rai Sahib and always remembers Guru Sahib throughout their day to day life. They are currently in The process of building a Hospital in the name of Guru Har Rai Sahib.

Baba Ji has done alot for the City of Anandpur Sahib especially the area in which they stay in Anandpur Sahib as now the area has been developed and has been greatly appreciated by the people staying within this area. As a result of such seva Baba Ji is greatly respected in Sri Anandpur Sahib.Their Dera and Guru Har Rai Sahib Ji’s Darbar is approximately a 15 minute walk from Sri Kesgarh Sahib.

When they lost their eyesight at a small age due to an infection, they were taken to the village of Dameli where initially Sant Baba Duleep Singh Ji Damelivale, looked after them and where raised later by both Baba Duleep Singh Ji and Baba Harbans Singh Ji. When they were younger Baba Ji took amrit from Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji Khalsa Bindrawale’s Jatha while they were studying at Bhai Mani Singh Ji’s Taksaal in Sri Amritsar Sahib.

Baba Joginder Singh have not been married and as mentioned earlier has dedicated their life to Sikhi and the seva of the panth. Baba Ji is one with the teachings of Guru Granth Sahib Ji Maharaaj and also urges others to instil the teachings of Guru Sahib within their hearts.

Baba Ji has a lot of history, which even I do not know. However, this was an attempt to give a brief insight into Baba ji’s jeevan in the past and the present.

Vaheguru Ji ka Khalsa.

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh.

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest History

Wow that is very inspiring thanks for sharing. Just out of interest and not wanting to sound too offensive to any jathebandi if babaji took amrit from bhramgiani gurbachan singh ji then why do they keep a nanaksari rehat or why do "look" like nanaksaris then?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest Panch Parvaan

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Amrit is Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji's, and Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's Jatha had taken up Amrit parchar along with numerous other panthic sevava and Sant Joginder Singh Ji was blessed with Amrit at an Amrit Sanchaar organised by Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's Jatha.

Although Baba Ji has the utmost respect for panthic sampardava, they are not affiliated to any particular jathebandi and carry out a gursikhi jeevan.

Furthermore, I am certain that not only Nanaksar wear white. It is one of the colours of the panth, which indeed is mentioned in many amrit sanchaars and has been worn by Taksal, Nanaksar, Rara Sahib etc.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest History

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Amrit is Guru Gobind Singh Sahib Ji's, and Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's Jatha had taken up Amrit parchar along with numerous other panthic sevava and Sant Joginder Singh Ji was blessed with Amrit at an Amrit Sanchaar organised by Sant Gurbachan Singh Ji's Jatha.

Although Baba Ji has the utmost respect for panthic sampardava, they are not affiliated to any particular jathebandi and carry out a gursikhi jeevan.

Furthermore, I am certain that not only Nanaksar wear white. It is one of the colours of the panth, which indeed is mentioned in many amrit sanchaars and has been worn by Taksal, Nanaksar, Rara Sahib etc.

Vaheguru Ji Ka Khalsa

Vaheguru Ji Ki Fateh

Oh of course - I was just asking for the sake of asking haha; so does baba ji follow a particular rehat i.e. nanaksari rehat? taksali rehat? what does his jeevan consist of for example does he agree in what taksaal says about like raagmala being bani, does he believe in dasam granth, like basically most "nanaksaris" dont really keep the 5 k's rehat like some just wear a miniture kanga, kirpa necklace thing - does baba ji do this or does he keep the 'proper' rehat?

Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest JgSingh

Whats wrong with matha tekhing ? ... This is an old tradition and I still do this to my elders as a sign of respect ...

Also Im sensing a bit of negativity on Nanaksar ... it should be noted that the largest Kirtan darbar organised in the UK is organised by Nanaksar (in Hayes for 30,000 people) and the most successful Sikh School in the UK is also founded by Nanaksar

With regards to Rehit: 90% of amritshucks have rehit for symbolic purposes...hence the small Kirpan etc.

If you want to keep "proper" rehit, then you better learn how to use your Kirpan and Kara in a real fight (aswell as protect your Dharee), otherwise you're gonna just end you hurting your self.

Guru Fateh

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 2 weeks later...
Guest History

I'm pretty sure there has been a book recently released about their jeevan. It was released at guru har rai gurdwara west bromwich a while ago. Maybe try getting hold of the book.

Thanks sister - could you provide some details about it? like name of the book, author - does dtf sell it?

Link to post
Share on other sites
  • 4 months later...
  • 2 months later...

Join the conversation

You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

Loading...


  • Topics

  • Posts

    • Well if understand physics,  we can go back in time and change everything 
    • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58984103 Hugo Carvajal: Spain to extradite Venezuela's ex-spy chief to US Published 2 hours ago Share Related Topics Venezuela crisis IMAGE SOURCE,REUTERS Image caption,Mr Carvajal was arrested in Spain last month after he had been in hiding for nearly two years Spain's high court has ruled that Venezuela's former spy chief, Hugo Carvajal, should be extradited to the United States. Mr Carvajal faces charges of drug trafficking and collaborating with Colombia's Farc terrorist group. But he could also have incriminating evidence against Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro, a major adversary of the United States. Mr Carvajal fell out with Mr Maduro and fled Venezuela for Spain in 2019. Mr Carvajal has repeatedly denied having any links to drug traffickers or the Marxist Farc rebels, and said the charges against him are politically motivated. The Spanish high court ruling follows an interior ministry decision to refuse Mr Carvajal asylum. However, that process has yet to be completed as Mr Carvajal can appeal. The extradition could also be delayed by another court case Mr Carvajal may have to testify in. It involves alleged illegal financing from Venezuela of Spain's left-wing Podemos party. Country profile: Venezuela Venezuela crisis in 300 words Mr Carvajal, 61, nicknamed "El Pollo" (The Chicken), was arrested in Spain last month after he had been in hiding for nearly two years in the wake of an earlier Spanish court decision which backed his extradition. The US and the government of President Maduro have been at loggerheads for years, with the US imposing tough sanctions on Venezuela. Who is Hugo Carvajal? Gen Carvajal was the head of Venezuela's military counter-intelligence from July 2004 until December 2011, when Hugo Chávez was president of the country.
    • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-58947068 When a cobra became a murder weapon in India Published 18 hours ago Share Image caption,Suraj Kumar (middle) was convicted of killing his wife with a cobra bite Last week, an Indian man was given a rare double-life sentence for killing his wife by making a cobra bite her. Soutik Biswas and Ashraf Padanna piece together the events leading to the grisly murder. In April last year, 28-year-old Suraj Kumar paid 7,000 rupees ($92; £67) for a spectacled cobra, one of the most venomous snakes in the world. Trade in snakes is illegal in India, so Suraj made the clandestine purchase from a snake catcher, Suresh Kumar, in the southern state of Kerala. Suraj drilled a hole in a plastic container for air to flow in, put the cobra inside, and took it home. Thirteen days later, he put the container in a bag and trudged to his in-laws' home, about 44 km (27 miles) away, where his wife Uthra was recovering from a mysterious snake bite. Suraj and Uthra had met two years earlier, via the services of a matrimonial broker. Suraj's father was an auto-rickshaw driver and his mother a homemaker. Uthra, who was three years younger than Suraj and suffered from learning disabilities, came from a significantly more well-off family - her father was a rubber trader and her mother was a retired school principal. When the couple married, Suraj accepted a dowry from Uthra's parents of 768 grams of gold (worth about $32,000 at today's rates), a Suzuki sedan and 400,000 rupees in cash. He also received 8,000 rupees a month from her parents "to look after their daughter", investigators said. It was her parents' home Uthra returned to after being released from hospital, where she was treated for the snake bite. It had put her there for 52 days and required three painful surgeries to heal her affected leg. She had been bitten by a Russell's viper - a highly venomous earth-coloured snake responsible for thousands of deaths in India every year. IMAGE SOURCE,GETTY IMAGES Image caption,The spectacled cobra is one of the most venomous snakes in the world Then on the night of 6 May, investigators say, while Uthra was still recuperating, she accepted a glass of fruit juice from Suraj which was laced with sedatives. When the mixture had put her under, Suraj brought out the container with the cobra, overturned it, and dropped the five-foot-long snake on his sleeping wife. But rather than attack her, the snake slithered away. Suraj picked it up and flung it on Uthra, but again it slithered off. Suraj tried a third time - he held the reptile by its trademark hood and pressed its head near Uthra's left arm. The agitated cobra, using the fangs at the front of the mouth, bit her twice. Then it slinked off to a shelf in the room and stayed there all night. "Cobras don't bite unless you provoke them, Suraj had to catch it by its hood and force it to bite his wife," says Mavish Kumar, a herpetologist. Suraj washed the juice glass, destroyed a stick he had used to safely handle the snake and deleted incriminating call records on his mobile phone, according to investigators. When Uthra's mother entered the room the next morning, she told the police she saw her daughter lying on the bed with "her mouth open, and her left hand dangling on one side". She said Suraj was also in the room. "Why didn't you check whether she was awake?" Manimekhala Vijayan asked her son-in-law. "I didn't want to disturb her sleep," Suraj told her. IMAGE SOURCE,SREEDHAR LAL Image caption,Uthra slept on the bed on the left in this room where she was killed The family rushed Uthra to the hospital, where the doctors pronounced her dead by poisoning and called the police. The autopsy report found two pairs of puncture wounds, less than an inch apart, on her left forearm. Blood and viscera samples revealed the presence of cobra venom and sedative drugs. Cobra venom can kill in hours by paralysing respiratory muscles. Acting on a complaint by Uthra's parents, the police arrested Suraj on 24 May in connection with his wife's unusual death. After a 78-day investigation and with charges running into more than 1,000 pages, the trial began. More than 90 people, including herpetologists and doctors, testified. The prosecution built its case using Suraj's call records, internet history, a dead cobra exhumed from the back garden, a stash of sedatives in the family car and evidence that he bought not one but two snakes. Investigators said that Suraj had also purchased the Russell's viper which had bitten Uthra months before she died. Suresh, the snake catcher, turned on Suraj and confessed to selling him both snakes. A herpetologist told the court that it was highly unlikely a cobra would have entered the couple's bedroom through a raised window. The crime scene was even recreated, using a live cobra, a snake handler and a dummy of the victim on a bed. IMAGE SOURCE,SREEDHAR LAL Image caption,Police found the plastic container in which Suraj kept the cobra that killed his wife "Cobras are not very active at night. Every time we dropped a cobra on the supine dummy, it slithered to the floor and went into a dark corner of the room," Mavish Kumar said. "Even when we provoked the cobra, it did not try to bite." He then caught the neck of one cobra and "induced" the bite on a piece of chicken tied to the plastic hand of the dummy. The distance between the bites was the same as it had been on Uthra's arm. "This is a case of diabolical and ghastly uxoricide," said Judge M Manoj, referring to the murder of a wife. Judge Manoj sentenced Suraj to life in prison, saying he had schemed to kill Uthra and "disguise it as a death from an accidental cobra bite". According to investigators, the fatal cobra bite was Suraj's third, not second, attempt to kill his wife in just four months. The Indian tribesmen catching giant snakes in Florida The global fight against snake bites Suraj, who worked as a collection agent for a local bank, met the snake catcher Suresh in February last year, and bought the Russell's viper from him for 10,000 rupees. He took the snake home in a plastic container and hid it under a heap of firewood in a shed. Then on 27 February, Suraj released the snake on the landing of the first floor of his home, investigators said, and asked his wife to go upstairs to fetch his mobile phone. Uthra saw the viper coiled up on the marble floor and raised an alarm, her mother told the police. Suraj came up, picked up the snake with a stick, and left the house. He put it back in the container. On the night of 2 March, Suraj tried again. He laced his wife's pudding with sedatives, and released the viper in the bedroom while she slept. IMAGE SOURCE,SREEDHAR LAL Image caption,The murder took place on the ground floor of this house in Kollam district This time, investigators said, the snake attacked. Uthra woke up screaming in pain, bites on her leg, and Suraj threw the snake out of the window. "Snakebite cases are common in Kerala, so we didn't suspect any foul play here," said Vijayasenan Vidhyadharan, Uthra's father. (About 60,000 people die of snakebites in India every year.) It took more than two hours that night to find a hospital that provided critical care treatment. Uthra was suffering from swelling and haemorrhage. Three skin transplant surgeries later, she returned home to her parent's two-storey house in a verdant village in Kollam to rest. Suraj remained with his son and parents at his home in Pathanamthitta. But he was already plotting again. "While his wife was in the hospital, Suraj was trawling the internet about handling snakes and learning about snake venom," said Anoop Krishna, one of the investigators. IMAGE SOURCE,SREEDHAR LAL Image caption,Suraj (middle) had been planning to kill his wife for more than a year, police say Investigators say Suraj had been plotting the murder since the birth of his son, Dhruv, in 2019. His internet history revealed that he searched venomous snakes and watched snake videos on YouTube, including a channel by a locally well-known snake handler. One of the snake-handler's most popular videos is about the "dangerous and aggressive Russell's viper". Suraj reportedly told his friends that his wife was "haunted by the curse of a serpent" in her dreams, in which she was "destined to die of snakebite". In reality, Suraj was determined to kill his wife, steal her money, and marry another woman, investigators said. "He planned it meticulously and succeeded in the third attempt," said Apukuttan Ashok, the lead investigating police officer. Public prosecutor Mohanraj Gopalakrishnan called the case a "milestone in police investigations in India, when prosecutors could decisively prove that an animal was used as a weapon of murder". Suraj received a rare double life sentence for the crime. According to Gopalakrishnan, he showed no remorse.
    • https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayel_Nassar Nassar was born in Chicago and grew up in Kuwait, before moving back to California in 2009. He was born to Fouad Nassar and Iman Harby, owners of Kuwaiti architectural firm Diwan Interiors International,[6] which has worked with companies such as Citigroup Kuwait, JW Marriott and Mercedes Benz.[6] He first began riding at the age of five and jumping at ten. Nassar has published that, on his Instagram page, many times, he is always proud to say that he's been an equestrian since day one.[3] Nassar is a graduate of Stanford University. He earned his bachelor's degree in economics from Stanford in 2013.[2] On 29 January 2020, Nassar and Jennifer Gates, daughter of Bill and Melinda Gates, announced their engagement.[7] They married on 16 October 2021 in Westchester County, New York.[8]
×
×
  • Create New...

Important Information

Terms of Use