We Are Sikhs - We Are Not Behind 9-11

[Hammertime007]

We need to absolute remove ourselves from Muslims.

There has been attempts from the so called Asian network this week (nihal and some other guy) where they were trying to encourage Sikhs to not have the attitude “we are not Muslim and point the finger at them”

Well im afraid we are not behind 9-11 so why should we pay for it.

If this was the other way around Muslims wouldn’t stand for it they would directly say it’s us.

The only time they see us as brothers is when they are under scrutiny.

The same attitude which was taken when British media was labelling Pakistani pedos as Asian needs to be taken.

[RebelSingh]

100% paaji, but unfortunatly we got pappu sikhs, who keep thinkin that we shudnt offend other communities, whilst other communities NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER stick up for sikhs, but cuss us instead. Look @ the paedo paki cases here in uk, NOT ONCE has an imam from the local mosque come out n say, the mirpuris in the uk have a problem. Listenin 2 the asian network, wenever they have a discussion on groomin on the streets, how many muslims txt in 2 say they have this problem? ALL they ever say is "oh u ppl r islamaphobic" etc crap. Sikhs have a huge problem wit alcohol, but u will get sikhs who will openely say that its a problem, etc. coz we live in the real world. ur 100% right

[Singh559]

You guys have no idea how the media works and how to get your message across. Political correctness in these cases are okay.

When you're talking about grooming and other things, then go all out and say the cold hearted truth.

[Hammertime007]

Last week’s two discussions on the BBC are still on their website, they were a joke.

We had fools like Nihal and some other presenter making discions for us. “Sikhs shouldn’t point the finger at the people behind Muslims”

Then have the enemy within Sunny Hundal from the Guardian, and “Sikhs against Edl” who have been sticking up for the Muslims even on this subject.

Hundial write an article last week on the USA shootings.

He wrote” When a group of Sikhs from around the UK organized a vigil outside the US embassy in London to reiterate that "Sikhs were not Muslims", many distanced themselves from the implication that hate crimes against Muslims were OK.”

[RebelSingh]

You guys have no idea how the media works and how to get your message across. Political correctness in these cases are okay.

When you're talking about grooming and other things, then go all out and say the cold hearted truth.

paaji, i believe ur a yank, but u need 2 come 2 england n c, how the goreh r sooooooo scared of speakin the truth, coz som1 might get offended. Shere Panjab warned the media/police/community leaders bowt paki mirpuris groomin yung kurriyan, yet NO police force took it seriously. Now all the goreh kno these mirpuris fave pasttime, n the police have admited they've been hesitant 2 tackle this, coz they dont wana look racist, which is disgraceful. countless girls cudda been saved, had the bloody police not been so politicaly correct n done their job. And then wen these idiots try 2 tackle the problem, instead of sayin muslim rioters, mirpuri drug dealers or paki groomers, they will say ASIAN rioters/druggies/groomers. WHY shud all us brownies have 2 take the slack, these kamineh have a problem, let em deal with it.

[Hammertime007]

This was the worst: 'Sikhs are not Muslims' sends a sinister message.

http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/commentary/la-oe-alexander-muslim-sikh-20120810,0,6114417.story?fb_action_ids=10151175339729973&fb_action_types=og.recommends&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=%7B%2210151175339729973%22%3A10150997591399613%7D&action_type_map=%7B%2210151175339729973%22%3A%22og.recommends%22%7D&action_ref_map=[]

[Hammertime007]

it gets worst .............

"I will not distinguish my self from a muslim because I won't abandon any one person as a target in the face of racist attitudes. Im a person"

[Singh559]

paaji, i believe ur a yank, but u need 2 come 2 england n c, how the goreh r sooooooo scared of speakin the truth, coz som1 might get offended. Shere Panjab warned the media/police/community leaders bowt paki mirpuris groomin yung kurriyan, yet NO police force took it seriously. Now all the goreh kno these mirpuris fave pasttime, n the police have admited they've been hesitant 2 tackle this, coz they dont wana look racist, which is disgraceful. countless girls cudda been saved, had the bloody police not been so politicaly correct n done their job. And then wen these idiots try 2 tackle the problem, instead of sayin muslim rioters, mirpuri drug dealers or paki groomers, they will say ASIAN rioters/druggies/groomers. WHY shud all us brownies have 2 take the slack, these kamineh have a problem, let em deal with it.

I know the situation bro and I know about the grooming gangs. I'm saying there's a time and place for political correctness. The key is to understand how to talk while representing everyone in the media.

The Sikh Coalition got a bunch of coverage and rightfully so and were politically correct.

When talking about pakistani grooming gangs, you should be dead honest and start turning these things into statistics by working with the Scotland Yard or whatever other police groups you have. Be proactive and once you start gathering the statistics you can finally shut up politically correct gore by showing it isn't a mere coincidence. If you legitimize yourselves with the people, the media will HAVE to listen to you.

The problem with the EDL is that they use only hate and very little brains, despite having real concerns so they are never taken seriously.

Become educated and scholarly so you can speak with any type of person anytime and anywhere.

[Jonny101]

While Sikhs should tell the world they are not not Muslims or any other religion but an independent religion but at the same time that does not mean we should start to point the finger of blame at any other religion. I have noticed some Sikhs in trying to show their difference from Muslims start to overly bash and bad mouth Islam and Muslims as if that will show how truly unique the Sikhs are. That is not the Gurmat thing to do. Most Muslims living in the west are good people, I wouldn't want people do hate them.

We need to follow the examples of our Gurus in every point. We need to inform non Sikhs out there who we are. Reading some of the comments by Sikhs at the comments section of news papers one can help notice how ignorant even fellow Sikhs are of Sikhi. For example, one Sikh commenter wrote Sikhism does not beleive in converting other people to Sikhism because Sikhism believes all religions are equal and lead to the same place. With such ignorance is it any wonder why Sikhs are no longer spreading the word of the Gurus to non Sikhs? They say one of the best ways to inform others of your religion is to preach it and spread it. In that case we have failed miserably.

Sikhi is a unique religion. It was founded by Sri Guru Nanak Dev Jee who was the greatest of all. His spiritual path(Sikhi) is also the greatest path amongst paths. We Sikhs have done some great Karma in previous lifetimes to be blessed with the priceless jewel of Sikhi in this lifetime.

[Singh559]

The thing is if we can't gather ourselves and convey ourselves in a decent manner we get those wannabe liberals starting to promote religions. We should be able to differentiate and tell the facts as they are without unnecessary emotions. That's what we lack in.

When we use emotions to tackle a subject we get heated and pappus start saying the exact opposite of what you're trying to achieve.