shooting in New Jersey shopping plaza

[Mehtab Singh]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/jersey-shopping-plaza-shootout-leaves-dead/story?id=17124439#.UECzj8FmQi9

[Guest]

America is getting worse and worse

[HKaur16]

There was another shooting recently at the Empire State building where a man killed his boss but in crossfire with the police 9 other bystanders were injured. And it is believed that all of the bullets that injured the bystanders were from the NYPD.

It seems like a lot of these shootings just started happening all of a sudden past 4 or so years.

[Singh559]

They're covering it more and more because it's getting more views on their networks because people have opinions regarding gun control and this will effect issue of gun control.

Gun control doesn't reduce crime.

[Sayf Udeen]

^ Disagreed.

An interesting discussion on Gun Control:

http://w11.zetaboards.com/Global247/topic/7980478

It's just awful, though. Four times someone has opened fire in a public place in three months.

[Singh559]

I can provide the National Science Monitor actual research report as well mentioned by John Stossel. The problem is there is an oversimplification and a skewage of data related to gun control. Most people don't really know what they're talking about as there is no formal clarification/analysis of the gun related death data.

Genocide related with gun control:

http://jpfo.org/pdf02/genocide-chart.pdf

The Mughals banned horses and guns, but Sikhs armed themselves and became sovereign people so we didn't have to bow down to any kalyugi sarkar. The American way of life is similar to the Khalsa mentality of sovereignty and freedom.

I don't classify gun control as combating criminals and unstable people from getting guns. The Colorado massacre done by the sick minded low life scum showed clear signs of what he was going to do (as many of these sick minded individuals have in the past). There are clear signs but ineffective means to prevent it.

That isn't gun control my friend, that is crime prevention. Also, the problem is more about society and a lack of education and a system that breeds intolerance which is why the Gurudwara shooting happened in Wisconsin. The FBI were monitoring this individual due to his controversial views, but it still occurred.

[singher23]

^I'm with him

Anyway, guns will never ever be banned in America because of history, but even small pushes for fun control will be strongly fought against

[Sherdil]

Too many shooting in the past couple of months alone. It makes one wonder if it's merely coincidence. It seems the shooter this time is another ex-military man.

Worth considering

[Yoda]

It's essentially a felony in New Jersey if you even dream of owning a gun. Put Chicago and New York in that list also. Just goes to show the myth of gun control and safety. The lowest crime is in states where Citizens are free to practice their 2nd amendment right.

[Singh559]

It's essentially a felony in New Jersey if you even dream of owning a gun. Put Chicago and New York in that list also. Just goes to show the myth of gun control and safety. The lowest crime is in states where Citizens are free to practice their 2nd amendment right.

Actually according to the National Science Monitor, the crime rate with stricter gun control states and those with very, very loose gun control (no background check and you can buy an ak or 20) are about the same.

In fact a study that monitored the crime rate of gun control + ban vs. less gun control and allowing hand guns is the same as well.