why did guru ji say arrive to sachkhand before ur

[DhadiMania]

i have a DVD, called "darshan sachkhand hazoor sahib" it states there, that in the words of guru gobind singh, he would wait for his sikhs to come to hazoor sahib until they were 60. why did he say that when other gurus before him said theres no need to go on pilgramage seeing naam is pilgramage?

PLEASE NOTE: I AM EDITING THIS POST, IF YOU WOULD LIKE THIS DVD, YOU CAN GET IT FROM DTF BOOKS IN BIRMINGHAM, ITS A 2 IN 1 DVD, THE FIRST PART IS YATRA OF HEMKUNT SAHIB (FROM DARBAR SAHIB, RAAGIS INCLUDE, BHAI SARBJIT SINGH DURG, BHAI SADHU SINGH DEHRADOON, BHAI SURINDER SINGH JODHPURI, AND BHAI HARJINDER SINGH SRINAGER WALE), BUT THE 2ND PART SHOWS DARSHAN OF HAZOOR SAHIB (SACHKHAND), SINGERS INCLUDE BHAI HARBANS SINGH JAGHADHARI WALE, AND THE ONE AND ONLY JODHPURI AND GOD KNOWS WHO ELSE. PLUS MANY OTHERS. ITS IN THE 2ND PART, IN THE FIRST 5-10 MINUTES WHEN THE COMMENTATOR SAYS GURU GOBIND SINGH SAID HE WANTED HIS SINGHS/SINGHANIS TO COME TO SACHKHAND BEFORE THEY WERE 60. AND SAID ITS LIKE A MECCA OF SIKHS.

thank you for your time

(ps admin, sorry for capslock, not shouting at anyone ji, just had to say this, and my source).

and also

why did guru ji say no-one should build anything on hazoor sahib? i think he saw that as a memorial to him, but i am not as learned as you guys, so could someone tell me ji.

bhol chukke muaff

das

[Simran9]

i don't have source, but i read somewhere in this forum that Guru Gobind Singh did not want any memeorial place built for him, if anyone does they will face the consequences of....bad luck, whatever u wanna call it. But (I think) Maharaja Ranjeet Singh commenced the construction of Hazoor Sahib at Nanded despite the warning........and his empire fell. I think this was in one of the sikh prophecy threads.

about the age 60 thing.........i dunno bout that, never heard of it. doesn't make sense at all though.

[Guest stopsingh2]

i don't have source, but i read somewhere in this forum that Guru Gobind Singh did not want any memeorial place built for him, if anyone does they will face the consequences of....bad luck, whatever u wanna call it. But (I think) Maharaja Ranjeet Singh commenced the construction of Hazoor Sahib at Nanded despite the warning........and his empire fell. I think this was in one of the sikh prophecy threads.

about the age 60 thing.........i dunno bout that, never heard of it. doesn't make sense at all though.

The Maharaja Rhunjeet Singh story is well recorded.

I too have never understood the 60 year thing because we are not required to make pilgrimages. By all means if you have the time do visit Gurdwara, but we are not required like Muslims who must visit Mecca.

[maaalton]

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

maharaja ranjits singhs family line ended. thats what it was. he was the last of his family generation or whatever you wanna call it.

vwihgurU jI kw Kwlsw!

vwihgurU jI kI &iqh!!

[V]

Guru Curse his Sikhs now a days :T: - for respecting him?

I heard that Sakhi as well - nto to sure about it's autencity - evne though it's true Maharaj Ranjit Singh ji's lineage did end - Im not too sure ábout the Curse -a as Guru Gobind Singh ji wouldn't curse his enimy let alone his Sikh :lol:

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[joga singh]

Jo hamko parmeshwar ucharey, sey sab nark kund main parhey.

mokao daas bhawan kaa jaano , yaa main bhed naa ranch pachaano

All our gurusaheb's told us to worship Akaal purkh and not them,

So Shri guru gobind singh ji said that

"if u think i am Akaal purkh , then u will go to hell,That i am sent by akaal purkh as his daas, there is nothing fishy in it."

and the naam simran "waheguru, waheguru" is of akaal purkh and not our guruji's.

A guruji,s duty is to show his sikhs way of akaal purkh.

and Regarding 60 years theory, when guru gobind singh ji has already told ,not to build his memorial ,why he will wait at his memorial for gursikhs till they are 60.

its all false.

[Guest stopsingh2]

....and Regarding 60 years theory, when guru gobind singh ji has already told ,not to build his memorial ,why he will wait at his memorial for gursikhs till they are 60.

its all false.

Very good point. Its one of them old wives tales without any religious underpin.

[sanj singh]

I'm not sure he did say that, it's one of those issues when we confuse mythology with fact.

[Gupt daasan daas]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

guru je never said whoever calls me god will go to hell

whoever will call themselves god will go to hell

thats wat it means

go check sant kartar singh jes katha on this if u want

also

go read bhaata de bani and see wat they say about guru je and god

go

see

bhula chuka maf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[joga singh]

Akaal purkh says that every one should worship him,

our gurujis also said worship akaal purkh.he is all powerfull.

So guru gobind singh ji said that if u r in disbelief that i m god u r wrong.

and definately if u worship daas of akaal purkh and not him u will go to hell.

because ur worshiping wrong person.

( i think u may be remembering this

main hoon param purkh koo dasaa, dekhan aayoo jagat tamashaa

)

simple.

btw now that u have brought in sant kartaar singh ji bhindaranwale,

so i request u to give me link of this katha so that i will enlighten myself.