Treatment of Brahman Shardhalus at Gurudwara RakabGanj Sahib Delhi

[lsingh]

Did you notice on the Indian news at the weekend that one of the demands of Brahmin yatra was a seperate area to be built for the memory of the Singhs that accompanied Siri Guru Tegh Bahadur. The attempt is to show them as seperate group from Siri Guru Tegh Bahadur. In the early 1980's some extreme Hindu groups started a campaign to do this also that they were actually Hindus also.

[GPS]

Isingh is correct in what he wrote in all the three posts ( Posts # 16, 22, and 24 )

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During the times of Sahib Guru Tegh Bahadur , the tradition of adding Singh to the name was not there/ or was not common. The Sikhs would add Bhai in front of the name. However, during the last few years of Sahib Guru Gobind Singh and during the Khalsa Raj many Dogras also added Singh as the last name to their names . Dogras quite often is used as a generic name for the Hindu inhabitants of Jammu and Kashmir and parts of present day Himachal Pradesh. Some of the Dogras who converted to Sikhism or Islam from Hinduism continued to call themselves Dogras. Originally the majorities of the Dogras are from Brahmin caste. In the above mentioned regions both the Brahmins and Rajput castes have been using nameSingh., though the tradition is much older with the Rajputs. Even these days most of the Dogras living mainly in Jammu region are Kashmiri Pundits (Brahmins)

So do not be mislead that Brahmins did not use the names Singh. In fact most of the Barhmins, Rajputs, and Khatris who prided themselves to be belonging to higher castes, and who then became Sikhs during the Khalsa Raj converted back to there original castes after the Khalsa Raj . The population of Sikhs in Punjab dropped from being about 13 to 14 millions to about 2 millions. Most of them were the first to become Arya Samaji. . Then the large number of Haryana Jats and Khatris under their influence also became Arya Samajis.. I think most people know of the role played by the Arya Samaj in dividing the post 1947 Punjab.

{{ On an other note when Shaeed Bhagat Singh cut his hair and avenged Lala Lajpat Rai, a "Kattar" Arya Samaji, the hindus started promoted him as to have converted himself to Arya Samaj sect of Hinduism. So they promoted him way above so many other Sikhs who sacrificed there lives equally well for the cause.}}

One of the reasons of this march - about which we are discussing here, seems to be to promote Bhai Dayala ji as a Brahmin to have also made the sacrifice at that time, where as it is known that Bhai Dayala ji and Bhai Kirpal Dass (formerly Pundit Kirpal Dass) came into Sikhi fold after meeting Sahib Guru Tegh Bahadur.

Dogras are not brahmins. Neither brahmins write singh as last name.

[Sewadar]

The intentions of the Brahmin organization cannot be neglected. Having said that, if they were really mistreated and forced out of the Gurdwara Sahib premises, it is an extremely shameful thing and should be condemned in the most strictest sense.