Different Journeys Toward God

[singhbj singh]

University Malaya Sikh student Jaspreet Kaur shares encounter with 'Aunty' & fellow student trying to convert her to Christianity

http://asiasamachar.com/2016/04/01/different-journeys-towards-god/

[FriendlyStranger]

Nice message, but we do not call God 'Christ', as the Sikh said..

We could as long as we don't attach the name of "Christ" to a Semitic man that lived 2000 years ago. Same goes for Ram, Hari, etc.

[jkvlondon]

What is the Arth of Christ which applies to Paramatma ji then?

Christ comes from the greek word Christos which mean 'anointed one' or chosen one only subject to God . so not really a title that has meaning to apply to Akal Purakh

[Guest Jacfsing2]

Christ comes from the greek word Christos which mean 'anointed one' or chosen one only subject to God . so not really a title that has meaning to apply to Akal Purakh

Surprisingly, Jesus never claimed to actually be Vaheguru, (this is something I still have a hard time believing).

[jkvlondon]

Surprisingly, Jesus never claimed to actually be Vaheguru, (this is something I still have a hard time believing).

the Dead Sea Scrolls which was a recent to his life copy of the bible teachings teaches many things : lakh chaurasi (reincarnation), daya in diet (no maas, no macchi, no eggs , no ritual slaughters just the fruit of the trees and plants and the herbs and plants of the field) , naam japna, naam vicharna, watches of the day and night including the power of doing battles at amritvela against the negatives. Jesus actually referred to himself as Akal Purakh's servant or Das and taught only Akal Purakh is worthy of praise worship. Peter and the Romans really did a number on his teachings .

[sikhiseeker]

the Dead Sea Scrolls which was a recent to his life copy of the bible teachings teaches many things : lakh chaurasi (reincarnation), daya in diet (no maas, no macchi, no eggs , no ritual slaughters just the fruit of the trees and plants and the herbs and plants of the field) , naam japna, naam vicharna, watches of the day and night including the power of doing battles at amritvela against the negatives. Jesus actually referred to himself as Akal Purakh's servant or Das and taught only Akal Purakh is worthy of praise worship. Peter and the Romans really did a number on his teachings .

WJKK WJKF

Can you please provide me with links to the tenants you say were written in the Dead Sea scrolls. Thanks

[jkvlondon]

WJKK WJKF

Can you please provide me with links to the tenants you say were written in the Dead Sea scrolls. Thanks

I read a book , sorry a bit old style I know ... a friend did send the new ten comandments as given in Full I'll post that and try to find the other stuff on line

[sikhiseeker]

I read a book , sorry a bit old style I know ... a friend did send the new ten comandments as given in Full I'll post that and try to find the other stuff on line

WJKK WJKF

Were the "new" Ten Commandments taken from the dead sea scrolls? What was the book called please?

[FriendlyStranger]

What is the Arth of Christ which applies to Paramatma ji then?

I wasn't referring to Christ the man, I was simply saying that the word Christ and any other is not prohibited. However, I suppose you can relate Christ the man to God if you consider him a Sant.

WJKK WJKF

Can you please provide me with links to the tenants you say were written in the Dead Sea scrolls. Thanks

I believe she's talking about the Gospel of Thomas.

http://gnosis.org/naghamm/gosthom.html

[jkvlondon]

Ok here is the snippet of conversation I had with the guy discussing compassionate eating and sikhi (vegan topic) but he pointed out these facts after I pointed out that the current list of commandments stated thou shalt not kill without specifying what or whom :

" Well, that's an extremely truncated version found in The Bible and the Torah. However, the original wording of these Commandments was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, and they are pretty darn specific:

12 Commandments after the Spirit - Source: Dead Sea Scrolls:

And Jesus said unto them, “Behold a new law I give unto you which is not new

but old. Even as Moses gave the Ten Commandments to Israel after the flesh, so

also I give unto you the Twelve for the Kingdom of Israel after the Spirit.

1. Ye shall not take away the life of any creature for your pleasure, nor for

your profit, nor yet torment it.

2. Ye shall not steal the goods of any, nor gather lands and riches to

yourselves beyond your need or use.

3. Ye shall not eat the flesh, nor drink the blood of any slaughtered creature,

nor yet any thing which brings disorder to your health or senses.

4. Ye shall not make impure marriages, where love and health are not, nor yet

corrupt yourselves, or any creature made pure by the Holy.

5. Ye shall not bear false witness against any nor willfully deceive any by a

lie to hurt them.

6. Ye shall not do unto others, as ye would not that others should do unto you.

7. Ye shall worship One Eternal, the Father-Mother in Heaven, of Whom are all

things, and reverence the Holy Name.

8. Ye shall revere your fathers and your mothers on earth, whose care is for

you, and all the Teachers of Righteousness.

9. Ye shall cherish and protect the weak, and those who are oppressed, and all

creatures that suffer wrong.

10. Ye shall work with your hands the things that are good and seemly; so shalt

ye eat the fruits of the earth and live long in the land.

11. Ye shall purify yourselves daily and rest the Seventh Day from labor,

keeping holy the Sabbaths and the Festival of your God.

12: Ye shall do unto others as ye would that others should do unto you.* [aka The Golden Rule]?You certainly have a great outlook & mindset!

Now here, also from the Dead Sea Scrolls, are the original COMPLETE wording of the 10 Commandments "after the flesh" given by Moses (notice they are quite a bit different than the watered-down versions taught today -- and funny, nowhere in there do I see anything like "God Hates Fags" or "If you're Not a Christian You'll Go to Hell Forever):

1. Thou shalt not take the life from any living thing.

2. Thou shalt not debase Love.

3. Thou shalt not trade thy Soul for the riches of the world.

4. Thou shalt honor thy Mother Earth and thy Heavenly Father.

5. Thou shalt not be a false witness of the Law, to use it against thy brother.

6. Thou shalt have no false Laws before God.

7. Thou shalt not steal.

8. Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's possessions.

9. Thou shalt not call upon the name of God with insincerity.

10. Thou shalt keep the seventh day Sabbath holy.

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so it is CLEAR that christians of Christ should not criticise other faiths or teachers of righteousness, that diet should be dayvaan, no sacrifices are acceptable , Akal Purakh is neither sex and both the only one to be worshipped, the name is reverend.

The point is the gnosis has been removed from the standard understanding of Christianity and yet that is what Jesus preached foremost .