Should Sikhs support Ramgarhia Gurdwara ?

[Cisco_Singh]

My own view is that Ravidaas Gurdwaras should not be allowed to have saroops of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj at their Gurdwaras ,since they do not have full satkaar of Sri Guru Granth Sahib Maharaj. They only reason they have saroops is because they contain compilations of Ravidaas's baani.

Ravidaasias do not believe in several core Sikhi concepts such as miri piri , amrit, Khalsa 5 k's etc.

They have their own ardaas etc as well. Ravidaasia should make their own compilations of Ravidaasis baani and use that instead. 

[jkvlondon]

6 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

While Ramgharias are actually Sikh, Ravidassia are not. Also they aren't actually followers of Ravidas, but rather Chamar Supremacy and Chamar Hinduism. (You can tell especially since they worship a huge idol of Ravidas, when he was clearly against idol worship).

chamar hinduism ...so they like being ostracised and told they are not entitled to go here and there ?...This is mentally backward , why can we not do parchaar so they can be freed to experience life as a full sikh on the path to Akal Purakh... I suspect backwards casteism will be cited as a reason for not going to gurdwara , so we need to show we respect the Sarbat Khalsa decision that Gurdwarey should be actually open to all and welcoming as sangat should be treated as Gurroop always

[Guest Jacfsing2]

4 hours ago, jkvlondon said:

chamar hinduism ...so they like being ostracised and told they are not entitled to go here and there ?...This is mentally backward , why can we not do parchaar so they can be freed to experience life as a full sikh on the path to Akal Purakh... I suspect backwards casteism will be cited as a reason for not going to gurdwara , so we need to show we respect the Sarbat Khalsa decision that Gurdwarey should be actually open to all and welcoming as sangat should be treated as Gurroop always

If Ravidas wasn't a Chamar, (in terms of caste), they wouldn't follow him, the entire Ravidassia community is basically Chamar Supremacy, (they don't let Non-Chamars convert). In a Gurdwara even this Ramgharia Gurdwara, you can get people from all communities, and anyone can eat Langar.

[simran345]

7 hours ago, Jacfsing2 said:

If Ravidas wasn't a Chamar, (in terms of caste), they wouldn't follow him, the entire Ravidassia community is basically Chamar Supremacy, (they don't let Non-Chamars convert). In a Gurdwara even this Ramgharia Gurdwara, you can get people from all communities, and anyone can eat Langar.

Even Ravidas Gurdwara let anyone in and eat langar. I've been to one and had no problem with it. Nobody stopped me either and different communities go to it, if not on a regular basis, passing by or now and then. 

But I guess it depends which one you go to. 

[singhbj singh]

Jacfsing2 please refer to Bhagat Ravidas ji with respect.

Coming back to the problem, was not talking about mandirs.

Sri Guru Ravidas Sabha are looking for religious workers like Ramgarhia Gurdwara.

I don't feel comfortable promoting both organisations on Sikh platforms.

[Guest Jacfsing2]

3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

Jacfsing2 please refer to Bhagat Ravidas ji with respect.

Coming back to the problem, was not talking about mandirs.

Sri Guru Ravidas Sabha are looking for religious workers like Ramgarhia Gurdwara.

I don't feel comfortable promoting both organisations on Sikh platforms.

Where was there any disrespect to Ravidas? He's one of only 15 people to be called a Bhagat, and has his bani in Dhan Dhan Sri Guru Granth Sahib Ji, if you were expecting that he wasn't a Chamar, well no one is claiming otherwise and that's the only reason they, (Ravidassia), have him as a Guru, they don't believe that he's Vaheguru or anything, or even a Bhagat, all they see is a famous Chamar, (Ravidas), in actual retrospective ideas, Sikhs probably respect Ravidas more than Ravidassia.