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WJKK WJKF.

There are many maryada's out there, such as the AKJ.

However, I don't know which one is the right maryada and it get's a bit confusing.

Some people say to do nitnem and others read bani.

Which one is right? Is there like a link on where to get started?

Thank you pyaare sangat ji!

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VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Do Ardaas and go to whichever amrit sanchar appaears when you are ready (trust me, circumstances are created to accommodate this, so don't over think it).  Akaal Purakh will guide you.  Also, don't worry about so and so maryada - go, present yourself when you are ready, answer the question the Punj Pyare ask you and if you are found ready, you will be given Amrit.  At the amrit sanchar, you will most likely be given the opportunity to ask questions, so take advantage of that.  The Guru is your mother-father after amrit - what parent would not want their child to be guided correctly?

Then focus on doing what was said in the amrit sanchar and don't worry about this maryada-that maryada.  Guru Sahib knows who tries and guides him/her appropriately.  Maryada is there to support Naam Simran, a life based on Gurbani and Gurmat, not a means to debate other people.  Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Rampur Khera did not do Jaap Sahib as he found it difficult and received darshan of Guru Sahib.  Guru Sahib turned away from him and he inquired one of the Gursikhs accompanying Guru Sahib why.  The Gursikh replied that you don't do Jaap Sahib.  Sant Harnam Singh started to do Jaap Sahib.  Guru Sahib will not abandon you as long as your intention and heart are devoted and will correct you as needed either directly or indirectly.

Most important is the commitment - some start to practice daily living as a Gursikh in preparation for amrit sanchar, others simply are innocent, but have the deep desire to be a Gursikh.  The Guru will guide you.  

Most important and again stating this - don't get too caught up in this maryada vs. that maryada.  Gurbani says that a Sikh should be remembering the Almighty with every breath and morsel of food.  Do what Guru Sahib says and the rest will follow.  

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VAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA, VAHEGURU JI KI FATEH

Do Ardaas and go to whichever amrit sanchar appaears when you are ready (trust me, circumstances are created to accommodate this, so don't over think it).  Akaal Purakh will guide you.  Also, don't worry about so and so maryada - go, present yourself when you are ready, answer the question the Punj Pyare ask you and if you are found ready, you will be given Amrit.  At the amrit sanchar, you will most likely be given the opportunity to ask questions, so take advantage of that.  The Guru is your mother-father after amrit - what parent would not want their child to be guided correctly?

Then focus on doing what was said in the amrit sanchar and don't worry about this maryada-that maryada.  Guru Sahib knows who tries and guides him/her appropriately.  Maryada is there to support Naam Simran, a life based on Gurbani and Gurmat, not a means to debate other people.  Sant Baba Harnaam Singh Rampur Khera did not do Jaap Sahib as he found it difficult and received darshan of Guru Sahib.  Guru Sahib turned away from him and he inquired one of the Gursikhs accompanying Guru Sahib why.  The Gursikh replied that you don't do Jaap Sahib.  Sant Harnam Singh started to do Jaap Sahib.  Guru Sahib will not abandon you as long as your intention and heart are devoted and will correct you as needed either directly or indirectly.

Most important is the commitment - some start to practice daily living as a Gursikh in preparation for amrit sanchar, others simply are innocent, but have the deep desire to be a Gursikh.  The Guru will guide you.  

Most important and again stating this - don't get too caught up in this maryada vs. that maryada.  Gurbani says that a Sikh should be remembering the Almighty with every breath and morsel of food.  Do what Guru Sahib says and the rest will follow.  

I don't know but it just doesn't make sense to me.

I do want to start practicing really bad but I just don't know where to start.

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A)  Start waking up at amritvela and doing paath of Nitnem (Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib, Tav Prasad Saviyae, Chaupai Sahib, Anand Sahib).  Amritvela is defined as 3 hours before sunrise - waking up earlier if fine too.  If you don't get up that time normally, work your way up by waking up 15-30 minutes earlier, than next week, 15-30 minutes earlier than that (and go to bed earlier as well) until you get there.

B)  Wear 5 kakkars and Dastaar (if not already wearing) at all times.  But important is that you conduct yourself as a Gursikh at all times once you do this.

C) Rehas Sahib in evening and Sohila Sahib before bedtime.  Do paath and try to understand the meanings (same for amritvela Banis).  As you understand the meanings, try to do what Gurbani is saying to do. Try to be aware of what effect Gurbani has on you - mind, body and soul. 

D)  Read more Gurbani - get to know Guru Sahib, what Guru Sahib is saying and make sure this is for you.  You will encounter MANY roadblocks just among your own Sikhs - stuck in maya, stuck in minute Rehat differences, stuck in nindya/chugli.  Sikhi is about doing what Guru Sahib says.  Do what Gurbani says to do, not to those who do things outside of that and yet appear to be Sikhs.  Sikhi is a garden - you can either enjoy the beauty of all of the flowers in different groups or you can get focused on one flower and hat the others.  Hating others for their differences will not help you and will be ultimately self-harming.  Enjoy the garden that is Sikhi.  You may end up liking a particular flower in this garden and want to do Sangat with them (or you may not), but always ALWAYS respect the other flowers in the garden and be able to appreciate their beauty and uniqueness.

E)  Find good Sangat.  They are a massive source of help to guide you.  One that is focused on Simran/Gurbani.  Attend different programs locally that involve the youth and seem Gurmat focused.  When you find one that seems focused in the right direction, continue to do Sangat with them.  If you find what you need from going to different Sangats, then do that, as long as they are focused on Naam/Bani and NOT focused on stuff outlined in D.  At the same time, be mindful that all are humans and make mistakes.  Don't be brutal and cut off with a Sangat for a minor mistake - all make mistakes, but as a Sangat, it is duty of fellow members of Sangat to correct it, learn from it and grow.

F)  Ardaas - cannot stress this enough.  Do Ardaas to Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh and be honest.  Don't worry about doing Ardaas in English/Punjabi when it comes to asking Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh.  Do that in English/Spanish/Klingon (whatever works).  Do it from the heart and be honest - Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh will guide.  Be innocent and ask as a child and the Guru shall take you the rest of the way.

G)  Have Daya on yourself and others - learn to forgive yourself and others - it get become very self defeating if you end up taking a step backward on this path (even before amrit).  Get up, learn and move forward.  Others are on a path - they can always slip - help them up instead of kicking them when they are down.

H)  Do seva at Gurudwara Sahib - wash dishes, sweep the floor, vacuum, clean shoes.  Keep your ego low and keep in mind you are doing seva of the Guru's house and the Guru's Sikhs.  Challenges are also abound there - people may say things - keep humble, try to see Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh in them.  Sometimes seva is an exam to see how low or high your ego is.  Be mindful - anger will destroy your progress very quickly.

I)  Try to restrain your 5 vikaars - Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Hankaar.  Be aware of these.  Understand what they are.  Develop strategies to recognize their presence and stop them from getting out of control.

Note that I am not specifying a rehat to follow and what jathebandi on purpose.  Guru Sahib will guide you to what suits you best.  Developing love for Gurbani/Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh, doing Sangat and getting yourself on the path of Sikhi is vastly more important than the minute details of Rehat for you right now.  You will be given a Rehat designed for you at the amrit sanchar.  THEN, you can follow every detail of that Rehat.  Right now, developing the love, the desire and some understanding of Gurbani, Sangat, and self awareness is most important. 

Sorry for the long list.  May Guru Sahib bless you and guide you on this highest of high paths.

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A)  Start waking up at amritvela and doing paath of Nitnem (Japji Sahib, Jaap Sahib, Tav Prasad Saviyae, Chaupai Sahib, Anand Sahib).  Amritvela is defined as 3 hours before sunrise - waking up earlier if fine too.  If you don't get up that time normally, work your way up by waking up 15-30 minutes earlier, than next week, 15-30 minutes earlier than that (and go to bed earlier as well) until you get there.

B)  Wear 5 kakkars and Dastaar (if not already wearing) at all times.  But important is that you conduct yourself as a Gursikh at all times once you do this.

C) Rehas Sahib in evening and Sohila Sahib before bedtime.  Do paath and try to understand the meanings (same for amritvela Banis).  As you understand the meanings, try to do what Gurbani is saying to do. Try to be aware of what effect Gurbani has on you - mind, body and soul. 

D)  Read more Gurbani - get to know Guru Sahib, what Guru Sahib is saying and make sure this is for you.  You will encounter MANY roadblocks just among your own Sikhs - stuck in maya, stuck in minute Rehat differences, stuck in nindya/chugli.  Sikhi is about doing what Guru Sahib says.  Do what Gurbani says to do, not to those who do things outside of that and yet appear to be Sikhs.  Sikhi is a garden - you can either enjoy the beauty of all of the flowers in different groups or you can get focused on one flower and hat the others.  Hating others for their differences will not help you and will be ultimately self-harming.  Enjoy the garden that is Sikhi.  You may end up liking a particular flower in this garden and want to do Sangat with them (or you may not), but always ALWAYS respect the other flowers in the garden and be able to appreciate their beauty and uniqueness.

E)  Find good Sangat.  They are a massive source of help to guide you.  One that is focused on Simran/Gurbani.  Attend different programs locally that involve the youth and seem Gurmat focused.  When you find one that seems focused in the right direction, continue to do Sangat with them.  If you find what you need from going to different Sangats, then do that, as long as they are focused on Naam/Bani and NOT focused on stuff outlined in D.  At the same time, be mindful that all are humans and make mistakes.  Don't be brutal and cut off with a Sangat for a minor mistake - all make mistakes, but as a Sangat, it is duty of fellow members of Sangat to correct it, learn from it and grow.

F)  Ardaas - cannot stress this enough.  Do Ardaas to Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh and be honest.  Don't worry about doing Ardaas in English/Punjabi when it comes to asking Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh.  Do that in English/Spanish/Klingon (whatever works).  Do it from the heart and be honest - Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh will guide.  Be innocent and ask as a child and the Guru shall take you the rest of the way.

G)  Have Daya on yourself and others - learn to forgive yourself and others - it get become very self defeating if you end up taking a step backward on this path (even before amrit).  Get up, learn and move forward.  Others are on a path - they can always slip - help them up instead of kicking them when they are down.

H)  Do seva at Gurudwara Sahib - wash dishes, sweep the floor, vacuum, clean shoes.  Keep your ego low and keep in mind you are doing seva of the Guru's house and the Guru's Sikhs.  Challenges are also abound there - people may say things - keep humble, try to see Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh in them.  Sometimes seva is an exam to see how low or high your ego is.  Be mindful - anger will destroy your progress very quickly.

I)  Try to restrain your 5 vikaars - Kaam, Krodh, Lobh, Moh, Hankaar.  Be aware of these.  Understand what they are.  Develop strategies to recognize their presence and stop them from getting out of control.

Note that I am not specifying a rehat to follow and what jathebandi on purpose.  Guru Sahib will guide you to what suits you best.  Developing love for Gurbani/Guru Sahib/Akaal Purakh, doing Sangat and getting yourself on the path of Sikhi is vastly more important than the minute details of Rehat for you right now.  You will be given a Rehat designed for you at the amrit sanchar.  THEN, you can follow every detail of that Rehat.  Right now, developing the love, the desire and some understanding of Gurbani, Sangat, and self awareness is most important. 

Sorry for the long list.  May Guru Sahib bless you and guide you on this highest of high paths.

Koi gal ne. Thank you paaji for your help. This should get me started definitely!

 

 

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