Amrit Vela

[Guest Singh]

If i stay up late in night and do simran, does that count as amritvela, or do i actually have to sleep and wake up and do simran for it to count as amrivela. Staying up till 12:30 or 1 am count as amritvela doing simran? 

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Guest Singh said:

If i stay up late in night and do simran, does that count as amritvela, or do i actually have to sleep and wake up and do simran for it to count as amrivela. Staying up till 12:30 or 1 am count as amritvela doing simran? 

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You do not need to sleep.

As long as you are awake or wake up around that time it counts.

Maharaj himself says to 'sleep less'.

 

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[Guest Kaur 2]

VJKK VJKF

Yes because that is still before sunrise. Some gursikhs who do a lot of seva do that and get very little sleep because they don't need it.

Bhull chuk maaf

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[Guest]

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[Singh2017]

VJKK VJKF

Eventually with so much naam/bani you can get your mind to such a higher consciousness that you don't even need to sleep anymore. Happens to many mahapurakhs. Maharaj doesn't say you NEED to sleep but they do say that if you call yourself a Sikh of the guru then wake up at Amritvela (or stay awake because you don't need to be sleeping but you definitely need to be up at Amritvela to do simran/paath) and jaap naam. Hope that helps Ji.

Vaheguru Ji.

[Guest Deepti]

On 10/29/2017 at 12:24 AM, Guest Singh said:

If i stay up late in night and do simran, does that count as amritvela, or do i actually have to sleep and wake up and do simran for it to count as amrivela. Staying up till 12:30 or 1 am count as amritvela doing simran? 

Waheguru Mehar Kare !

i also wanted to ask the same...as i am a student i mostly stay awake till 3/4 at night...i do simran and then sleep ...does that count as Amritvela ? I have to sleep and then get up or i can do it by staying up late.

[BhForce]

On 10/30/2017 at 6:46 AM, Singh2017 said:

Eventually with so much naam/bani you can get your mind to such a higher consciousness that you don't even need to sleep anymore. Happens to many mahapurakhs.

Sleep is something that every body needs in order to refresh the physical systems of the body. If you have the power of naam, that can rejuvenate you and you simply don't need to sleep much:

ਬ੍ਰਹਮ ਗਿਆਨੀ ਸਦਾ ਸਦ ਜਾਗਤ ॥ (Sukhmani Sahib)

But it should be clarified that this is only a very few people. The vast majority of people need a normal amount of sleep (which doesn't have be 8 hours).

[BhForce]

On 9/21/2022 at 1:15 PM, Guest Deepti said:

i also wanted to ask the same...as i am a student i mostly stay awake till 3/4 at night...i do simran and then sleep ...does that count as Amritvela ? I have to sleep and then get up or i can do it by staying up late.

It depends on what you're asking. The recommended lifestyle is to go to sleep when dark, wake up early, do Ishnan, do Amrit Vela, and stay awake the rest of the day.

If you can't do that (because of job schedules), then you simply have to make do. When you stay up, you don't generally do Ishnaan, you don't get the same feeling of getting up to worship.

Again, remembering God is always a good thing, never a bad thing. The point is simply that following the recommended lifestyle has benefits.

[BhForce]

The recommended schedule for Sikhs is to go sleep saying God's name and wake up doing the same:

 

ਸਉਦੇ ਵਾਹੁ ਵਾਹੁ ਉਚਰਹਿ ਉਠਦੇ ਭੀ ਵਾਹੁ ਕਰੇਨਿ ॥
saudē vāh vāh ucharah uthadē bhī vāh karēn .

Whilst going to sleep they utter Lord's glories and praises and when awake they eulogise Him as well.

ਨਾਨਕ ਤੇ ਮੁਖ ਉਜਲੇ ਜਿ ਨਿਤ ਉਠਿ ਸੰਮਾਲੇਨਿ ॥੧॥
nānak tē mukh ujalē j nit uth sanmālēn .1.
Nanak bright are the faces of those who daily arise early and remember God. p312

 

You have to sleep the same number of hours anyway. So why not go to sleep early and wake up early? Afterwards, you'll still have the same number of hours to study--there are only 24 hours in a day.

If you say it's the same if you do Amrit Vela first and then go to sleep, it's not: If you do it your way, after you wake up, you won't be worshipping, as commanded above. Instead, you'll head to school or whatever.

We're supposed to worship after waking:

ਗੁਰ ਸਤਿਗੁਰ ਕਾ ਜੋ ਸਿਖੁ ਅਖਾਏ ਸੁ ਭਲਕੇ ਉਠਿ ਹਰਿ ਨਾਮੁ ਧਿਆਵੈ ॥
gur satigur kā jō sikh akhāē s bhalakē uth har nām dhiāvai .

He, who calls himself a Sikh of the Great True Guru, should rise early and meditate on God's Name. p305

Meditate after you rise, Gurbani says.