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We all know that Sikh population are a small population compared to other faiths and we only form 2% of India. At the moment we only have one area in Indian where Sikhs are in the real majority. 

Due to our strong presence their we have a big voice in all affairs that take place there. Such as the politics ect. Yet other faiths are slowly and surely moving into our homeland and will take over if we dont do anything. 

How do we stop other faiths from migrating there and taking over? 

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By stop migrating ABROAD (Canada, Australia, UK, USA ) and start giving a DAMN in politics of Punjab. :)

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14 hours ago, Big_Tera said:

We all know that Sikh population are a small population compared to other faiths and we only form 2% of India. At the moment we only have one area in Indian where Sikhs are in the real majority. 

Due to our strong presence their we have a big voice in all affairs that take place there. Such as the politics ect. Yet other faiths are slowly and surely moving into our homeland and will take over if we dont do anything. 

How do we stop other faiths from migrating there and taking over? 

why do you want a majority?

jus curious

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a bit too late i think, give it another 10 years then sikhs will be minority. most cities are crowded with biharis. in cities you see more biharis than punjabis, slowly the same will happen with pinds. Punjabis are very lazy they rather pay biharis to do their work than do it themselves. many biharis use cars, tractors now.  most people in other states throw a riot and get rid of migrants from other states, Punjabis on the other hand are doing the opposite and inviting migrants from poor states to do work for them.  Go to Punjab and you see many Biharis driving tractors and doing kethi/farming     jatts don't want to work so they pay biharis to do it.   In the old days ladies use to take roti to the fields for their husbands now they send bihari children to do it.   Fault isn't in the migrants but the fat @ss, saggy, good for nothing Punjabis themselves are to blame

I'v even heard stories of Punjabi girls running away with biharis  hahah!      

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6 minutes ago, puzzled said:

a bit too late i think, give it another 10 years then sikhs will be minority.

Yes Sikhs are projected to be a minority by the 2031 census.

But Hindutva agents like RSS-Badal-Amrinder want this to happen sooner.

In 2016, the President of India gave his nod to the amendment to the Gurdwara Act 1925. The law barring Sehajdhari Sikhs – those who practice the faith without adhering to Amritdhari requirements – from voting in the Shiromani Gurdwara Prabhandak Committee elections has come into effect retrospectively. 

The SGPC has twisted the definition of a Sehajdari, and the body’s stated definition of a Patit – one who does not adhere to certain criteria – has resulted in the systemic exclusion of the majority of community members from the Sikh religion.

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From what iv heard from my parents, Jatts in the old days were tough hard working people, the men and women. My mum told me that her baba/grandad used to wake up at 3am, wash and then go straight to the keth/fields and start doing kethi/farming. he would take a daang/long cane with him in case there were snakes in the way. By the time it was morning work would be done and he would be back. in those days there were no tractors just bulls. My nani raised 6 kids, was a wife and the only daughter in law all at the same time. She would wake up 3 am in the morning, wash and then sweep the courtyard of the house. From our house she would then sweep the lanes all the way to the local pind da gurdwara using a charu. She would then clean the gurdwara with water and cloth and sweep all the leaves and mitti. She did this every morning for decades till she couldn't walk anymore. She would then come back home and continue her house jobs, make food for 6 children, husband, in laws. look after the cows cattle etc My mum told me that my nani always carried her self with dignity and grace. My mum said people treated their neighbors daughters like their own, and girls had izzat and always thought about their parents reputation. People would keep there gates wide open because they trusted each other, houses had no walls separating them it was all one big courtyard, thats the love and trust people had for each other.  I'v only heard of this Punjab, the Punjab iv seen is a far cry from how my mum describes the Punjab she grew up in. 

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On 11/11/2018 at 10:12 PM, Big_Tera said:

We all know that Sikh population are a small population compared to other faiths and we only form 2% of India. At the moment we only have one area in Indian where Sikhs are in the real majority. 

Due to our strong presence their we have a big voice in all affairs that take place there. Such as the politics ect. Yet other faiths are slowly and surely moving into our homeland and will take over if we dont do anything. 

How do we stop other faiths from migrating there and taking over? 

This is a great question. The solutions are simple and common sense.

Firstly there is now a higher percentage of Sikhs in Canada than there is of Sikhs in India. Sikhs are around the 1.6% mark currently in India due to a lower birth rate meaning that Sikhs have fallen from the 1.7% mark in 2011.

Outside of east Punjab across all other Indian states (due to a total lack of parchar) Sikhs are only 0.4% of the population which is lower than the percentage of Sikhs in the UK, Australia and New Zealand.

As for east Punjab it was:

63% Sikh in 1991

60% Sikh in 2001

57% Sikh in 2011

Around 55% are Sikh in Indian Punjab currently but that does not factor for the hundreds of thousands (if not more) of erstwhile Sikhs who have been enticed to the newly created apartheid mandir franchises of Dera Ballan mandirs and neo-Balmiki mandirs since 2011. 

Meaning that if only a small number of people who have joined the apartheid mandirs franchise or joined other Dera's declare themselves as non-Sikhs in 2021 could mean that Sikhs are a minority in Punjab by as soon as 2021. This is what the Hindutva masterminds want they as they figure that the Pakistani's ethnically cleansing Sikhs in the Pakistani Genocide of Sikhs permanently shut down talk of Sikh self-government there. So by making Sikhs a minority in east Punjab that will similarly end similar aspirations for Sikhs in east Punjab permanently too.

The solutions are simple:

1. Stop the labelling of sehajdhari Sikhs as non-Sikhs

2. Accept all Gurdwara Sangat as Sikhs full stop

3. Do not label certain Gurdwara Sangat as non-Sikhs or "Hindu Punjabi's"

4. Stop banning people of Dharmic faiths from getting married at Gurdwara

5. Use Anand Karaj as a means to welcome new fresh blood into Sikhi

6. All Bihari's etc should be educated that Guru Gobind Singh Ji were born in Bihar. And that under the Nishan Sahib we are one united people.

7. All Bihari's etc should be educated that one of the greatest Gurmukhs our faith has produced (Shaheed Bhai Jiwan Singh Ji) were a so-called untouchable (according to Hindu's and Muslims) from Bihar.

8. Since Punjabi's won't do the jobs that Bihari's are prepared to do, shutting down migration isn't the solution as that would bring the Punjab economy to a halt. The crucial thing is integrating what migration there is inwards to assimilating as new Sikhs and spreading the word of Sikhi back in their home states.

9. The government sponsored creation of Mosques in every village of Punjab with free land needs to be stopped immediately. The Muslims of east Punjab (including in Malerkotla) voted for Pakistan. Therefore, just as the Pakistani's do not allow new Gurdwara's similarly no new Mosques should be created in Punjab. All land and revenue stolen from Sikh majority villages in this way needs to be spent on educating poor Sikh children (instead of used to build up the Muslim population). 

10. Sikhs need to educate all current Muslims that Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh. 99.99% of Muslims in Punjab are not aware of this fact. We need to openly educate Muslims about the reality of Muhammad as a child abuser (peadophile), terrorist and slaveowner who sold innocent black children and women for financial profit. We need to educate all Gujjars that Mata Gujjar Kaur were from the same ancestry background but represented the very height of bravery. 

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Back in the year 1800 Sikhs were a mere 5% of the Punjab population.

Even after extensive parchar by Giani Ditt Singh Ji's Singh Sabha Sikh numbers had only grown upwards to a 14% minority of the Punjab population by 1947.

Currently if we include all of pre-1947 Punjab Sikhs are back down to 11% of all Punjabi's (whilst Muslims are 66% and Hindu's are 22%) due to a lower birth rate.

So Sikhs being a minority is nothing new. And Sikhs are a minority in Doaba.

Sikhs were even a minority in Majha, Malwa and Doaba in 1947.

Even the Punjabi suba proposed in 1966 would have only had 45% Sikhs.

However, due to a majority Punjabi Hindu's falsely declaring their language as Hindi back then a Sikh majority was artificially created in a small part of the original Punjab area back then. Alas by not accepting all those who attend Gurdwara as equally legitimate members of the Sikh Panth all urban Hindu's in Punjab speak Hindi nowadays. And what else can be expected when so-called HP's attend Gurdwara but are still bizarrely labelled as non-Sikhs.

But the solution is not by shutting out those poverty stricken migrants - whom we should encourage to become new Sikhs - and restricting Sikhi to a small (ghetto) area of the old Punjab. The fault lies with us as Sikhs (and the SGPC) for not encouraging people to integrate into the Sikh Panth via education, pyaar and support.

The biggest most crucial thing we have to do to grow Sikhi in Punjab as a pre-cursor to it growing throughout India and globally is ensure each and every pind in Punjab only has single united Gurdwara.

If we can achieve this simple objective then there is hope.

Allied to that Sikhs need to end matrimonial apartheid within the Qaum.

The Panj Piare were from south India (Karnataka), Gujarat, Orissa, Hastinapur and present day Pakistan. So Sikhi's scope is throughout India and global. Sikhi cannot get bogged down into excluding non-Punjabi's as the future growth of Sikhi is entirely tied to poor Indians and poor Africans. Punjabi's and Jats are always have been Muslim majority qaums that offer little or next to zero scope for growing the Sikh Panth's population going forwards. If Bihari's cannot be encouraged towards Sikhi then we cannot encourage anybody.

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Bihari Sikhs 

ON a cloudy, humid August morning, the soulful chants of Gurbani heard from the loudspeaker strategically placed on the high branches of a banyan tree were the only pleasant thing that greeted a visitor to Halhalia village in Araria district of Bihar.

Yet, the recitation of the Guru Granth Sahib, the holy text of Sikhs, seemed out of place in a village that is solely populated by the Rishidev community, a Scheduled Caste, which is a sub-caste of the extremely backward Musahars (a caste group that draws its name from its practice of eating rats). Right in the middle of the village stood a hut with a facade different from that of the rest of the houses.

A closer look indicated that it was a Gurdwara, but differently constructed and decorated from those found in Punjab and the rest of India.

Outside the hut a group of men with their heads wrapped awkwardly in turbans, which gave them the Sikh identity, was holding a discussion with the village mukhiya , or the elected head of the panchayat. The mukhiya, Narendra Singh Rishidev, was holding forth on their latest religious campaign. There are around 150 Rishidev families in Halhalia. These families had converted to Sikhism in the last decade.

Lack of livelihood options in the village and the desire to seek better wages had made the male members of these landless families migrate to Punjab for construction work. There they were introduced to Sikh philosophy and its non-hierarchical structure.

For the Rishidevs, Punjab and Sikhism seemed to be a dream come true, a land and religion that would free them from caste-based exploitation.

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On 11/11/2018 at 10:12 PM, Big_Tera said:

 

How do we stop other faiths from migrating there and taking over? 

Who said that?.......was it Enoch Powell, Adolf Hitler, Mussolini, Tommy Robinson or Big Tera ?

I mean you do realise don't you....that there are evil racists up and down this land saying the exact same thing about you, your parents and your siblings at this precise moment in time ?

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On 11/13/2018 at 1:56 PM, Guest Sikh minority 2021? said:

ON a cloudy, humid August morning, the soulful chants of Gurbani heard from the loudspeaker strategically placed on the high branches of a banyan tree were the only pleasant thing that greeted a visitor to Halhalia village in Araria district of Bihar.

Yet, the recitation of the Guru Granth Sahib, the holy text of Sikhs, seemed out of place in a village that is solely populated by the Rishidev community, a Scheduled Caste, which is a sub-caste of the extremely backward Musahars (a caste group that draws its name from its practice of eating rats). Right in the middle of the village stood a hut with a facade different from that of the rest of the houses.

A closer look indicated that it was a Gurdwara, but differently constructed and decorated from those found in Punjab and the rest of India.

Outside the hut a group of men with their heads wrapped awkwardly in turbans, which gave them the Sikh identity, was holding a discussion with the village mukhiya , or the elected head of the panchayat. The mukhiya, Narendra Singh Rishidev, was holding forth on their latest religious campaign. There are around 150 Rishidev families in Halhalia. These families had converted to Sikhism in the last decade.

Lack of livelihood options in the village and the desire to seek better wages had made the male members of these landless families migrate to Punjab for construction work. There they were introduced to Sikh philosophy and its non-hierarchical structure.

For the Rishidevs, Punjab and Sikhism seemed to be a dream come true, a land and religion that would free them from caste-based exploitation.

Do you know where to know more stories like these ?

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