GURMAT SANGEET / RAAG KIRTAN / DILRUBA - JORI = LESSONS HELP

[Guest Sunny Singh]

Vahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vahiguru Ji ki Fateh,

 

I am based in central London, and I have always been drawn to Drupad / original raag gurmat sangeet kirtan but I have never had the confidence to pursue further.

I am totally lost in terms of knowing where to go to seek help for learning and I would really want to become a student of a Ustaad / teacher and dedicate myself to being a loyal student.

 

The other major fact and element is that I am financially not secure currently and do not have enough finances to fund private expensive lessons and would humbly ask to be taught for free or at a very reduced amount of price of funds if need be.

 

So I have a humble Benti if anyone can help.

[AkalkiFauj 155]

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[AkalkiFauj 155]

On ‎7‎/‎13‎/‎2019 at 1:45 AM, Guest Sunny Singh said:

Vahiguru Ji Ka Khalsa Vahiguru Ji ki Fateh,

 

I am based in central London, and I have always been drawn to Drupad / original raag gurmat sangeet kirtan but I have never had the confidence to pursue further.

I am totally lost in terms of knowing where to go to seek help for learning and I would really want to become a student of a Ustaad / teacher and dedicate myself to being a loyal student.

 

The other major fact and element is that I am financially not secure currently and do not have enough finances to fund private expensive lessons and would humbly ask to be taught for free or at a very reduced amount of price of funds if need be.

 

So I have a humble Benti if anyone can help.

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I would recommend Guru Maneyo Granth Gurdwara in Slough as they have many classes and that is the nearest place that I would recommend to you. You also might want to contact the singhs of The Mardana Project

[MisterrSingh 8,531]

Not in this day and age. It's either pay top dollar for tuition or receive subpar instruction that's reflected in the lower price. The so-called premier ustaads aren't interested in pro-bono or discount prices. The arts have become the plaything of a wealthy elite and well-connected minority even in our community. If you manage to find an old-school teacher who isn't eyeing you up for how much cash he can wring out of you, you'll be very lucky.

[AkalkiFauj 155]

2 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Not in this day and age. It's either pay top dollar for tuition or receive subpar instruction that's reflected in the lower price. The so-called premier ustaads aren't interested in pro-bono or discount prices. The arts have become the plaything of a wealthy elite and well-connected minority even in our community. If you manage to find an old-school teacher who isn't eyeing you up for how much cash he can wring out of you, you'll be very lucky.

True

 

[AkalkiFauj 155]

4 minutes ago, MisterrSingh said:

Not in this day and age. It's either pay top dollar for tuition or receive subpar instruction that's reflected in the lower price. The so-called premier ustaads aren't interested in pro-bono or discount prices. The arts have become the plaything of a wealthy elite and well-connected minority even in our community. If you manage to find an old-school teacher who isn't eyeing you up for how much cash he can wring out of you, you'll be very lucky.

The only place that I can think of which will not rip you of is Baru Sahib

[MisterrSingh 8,531]

1 minute ago, AkalkiFauj said:

The only place that I can think of which will not rip you of is Baru Sahib

For NRIs it's not really practical is it? I suppose if the desire is present them nothing can really dissuade a student. But it does ultimately boil down to the paise issue.

[AkalkiFauj 155]

Just now, MisterrSingh said:

For NRIs it's not really practical is it? I suppose if the desire is present them nothing can really dissuade a student. But it does ultimately boil down to the paise issue.

True. I'm looking for a place myself that will teach me the Dilruba or Rabab

[MisterrSingh 8,531]

1 hour ago, AkalkiFauj said:

True. I'm looking for a place myself that will teach me the Dilruba or Rabab

Good luck to you, bro. Don't be disheartened by my frank take on this situation. It's not my intention to dissuade. You wish to learn a noble art for the furtherance of Sikhi, and that should be wholeheartedly encouraged. Do a benti and keep plugging away in your own time. If man does not offer support and guidance, seek the help of the one who never turns his back on his Sikh.

[Guest Guest]

Perhaps Raj Academy (rajacademy.com)? They teach Rabab, Saranda, Jori, Sarangi, Dilruba and Taus. They do organise weekly classes in Southall and East London.

[Guest sunny singh]

I thak everyone for the replies and time taken for there in put.

 

raj academy is un practical imo, as they charge and the model that is in place for a beginner needs to have a disposable flow of funding to be taught.

 

I am just becoming upset and disheartened in all honesty as the search for how to learn, play and for free authentic instrumental kirtan is basically non existent .

 

I will keep on trying but I just fear that eventually if I don't find anything then I will just have to be forced to but walk away from the whole wish and desire, until I have a disposable income to pay a teacher.

[BhForce 1,855]

On 7/14/2019 at 11:39 AM, MisterrSingh said:

Not in this day and age. It's either pay top dollar for tuition or receive subpar instruction that's reflected in the lower price. The so-called premier ustaads aren't interested in pro-bono or discount prices. The arts have become the plaything of a wealthy elite and well-connected minority even in our community. If you manage to find an old-school teacher who isn't eyeing you up for how much cash he can wring out of you, you'll be very lucky.

I can't help but say that this may be the case, but how can any of us honestly begrudge accomplished masters their due?

I mean, we all (or our parents) are engineers, doctors, lawyers, shopkeepers, businessowners, etc., earning a lot of money.

If someone among us takes the time to learn dozens of raags and the fine points of playing stringed instruments, how can we expect them to spend their time on us for free? After all, ustad work doesn't have a retirement plan.

[BhForce 1,855]

3 hours ago, Guest sunny singh said:

I am just becoming upset and disheartened in all honesty as the search for how to learn, play and for free authentic instrumental kirtan is basically non existent .

I think it is extremely naive of you to think that someone should spend their time giving you individual instruction for free.

What line of work are you in or are planning to go into?

Would you do accounting work for free?

[AkalkiFauj 155]

4 hours ago, BhForce said:

I think it is extremely naive of you to think that someone should spend their time giving you individual instruction for free.

What line of work are you in or are planning to go into?

Would you do accounting work for free?

Yes. I would. I would because I want to keep the legacy of the Raag tradition for the next generation of Sikhs. I do know some people that teach classical raag and instruments like Rabab but that's in Australia

[AkalkiFauj 155]

I do know a Gurdwara that does Sarangi lessons for free. Same with Jori