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Hi, I just want the names of a few Muslims that started following the Gurus and became Sikh, to shut up a guy who's saying that all Sikhs are Hindus. Somehow that's where the argument has reached. A bit of history along with the names would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance! 

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Of course there were. Read Sikhism of Guru Ji in Mecca. Nanaks message was that there’s no religion, only a Truth...that we and Truth are One. 

Powerful stuff, it didn’t resonate with many, but it resonated with a few, but only a few stars are enough to light up a sky. 

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Bhai Mardana is a start. However he was never known to leave islam, instead a Muslim-sikh and soem would term that as a Nanahshahi as opposed to a Nanakpanthi.

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I think mata Kaulan was a muslim who became a disciple of Guru Hargobind Ji    her father disowned her and she settled in Amritsar, she lived in a house near Harmandir sahib    there is a gurdwara at the place now named after her 

Nihang Khan was another muslim who became a Sikh and follower of Guru Gobind Singh ji, there even is a town in Punjab named after him called Kotla Nihang Khan 

jehangir in his diary mentions Guru Arjan Dev ji and writes how hindus and even some muslims have started following guru ji

"In Goindwal, which is on the river Biyah (Beas), there was a Hindu named Arjan, in the garments of sainthood and sanctity, so much so that he had captured many of the simple-hearted of the Hindus, and even of the ignorant and foolish followers of Islam, by his ways and manners, and they had loudly sounded the drum of his holiness...."

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Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh in history.

50% of all Guru keh Sikh between the period of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj to Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj were originally Muslims who has left Islam (apostates).

Bhai Mardana Ji was even attacked for being an apostate from Islam by Wali Kandhari and his Muslim fanatics in a town called Hasan Abdal in Pakistan.

Bhail Bahlol Ji from Iraq was another Muslim apostate who became a strong GurSikh via the light of truth shown to him by Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji of the Panj Piare had parents who followed Islam.

Yogi Allah Yaar Khan was a famous GurSikh disciple of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Sain Mian Mir had also rejected the ideology of Islam to become Guru ke Sikh.

The main reasons all these hundreds of thousands of Muslims became Sikh was they rejected core concepts of Islam such as slavery, terrorism, genocide, rape, pedophilia as practised by the Prophet Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

 

 

 

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On 11/3/2019 at 10:02 PM, Guest DhanDhan BhaiMardana said:

Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh in history.

50% of all Guru keh Sikh between the period of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj to Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj were originally Muslims who has left Islam (apostates).

Bhai Mardana Ji was even attacked for being an apostate from Islam by Wali Kandhari and his Muslim fanatics in a town called Hasan Abdal in Pakistan.

Bhail Bahlol Ji from Iraq was another Muslim apostate who became a strong GurSikh via the light of truth shown to him by Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji of the Panj Piare had parents who followed Islam.

Yogi Allah Yaar Khan was a famous GurSikh disciple of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Sain Mian Mir had also rejected the ideology of Islam to become Guru ke Sikh.

The main reasons all these hundreds of thousands of Muslims became Sikh was they rejected core concepts of Islam such as slavery, terrorism, genocide, rape, pedophilia as practised by the Prophet Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

Exactly Bhai Mardana Ji being Guru ke pehleh Sikh says it all

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On 11/3/2019 at 10:02 PM, Guest DhanDhan BhaiMardana said:

Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh in history.

50% of all Guru keh Sikh between the period of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj to Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj were originally Muslims who has left Islam (apostates).

Bhai Mardana Ji was even attacked for being an apostate from Islam by Wali Kandhari and his Muslim fanatics in a town called Hasan Abdal in Pakistan.

Bhail Bahlol Ji from Iraq was another Muslim apostate who became a strong GurSikh via the light of truth shown to him by Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji of the Panj Piare had parents who followed Islam.

Yogi Allah Yaar Khan was a famous GurSikh disciple of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Sain Mian Mir had also rejected the ideology of Islam to become Guru ke Sikh.

The main reasons all these hundreds of thousands of Muslims became Sikh was they rejected core concepts of Islam such as slavery, terrorism, genocide, rape, pedophilia as practised by the Prophet Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

Yes true it's sad that more people don't know about how sincere a Guru da Sikh Yogi Allah Yaar Khan were to become an apostate from Islam to become a new Sikh

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Also new finding was the muslims in Saudi Arabi that turned sikh. Their writings were recently found. Bahi pinderpal singh talks about them in his katha. Google it.

A muslim who had turned sikh during guru nanaks time was buried alive or stoned to death. Sorry forgot the name

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True Islam is actually similar to Zarathustra path. Also a full one third 30 percent of Satguru’s fauj is/was consisting of Musalmann.

it is wrong of u to malign the Prophet of Arabia for two reasons 

number one He was very good being- an Avatar incarnation of Shukra dev - Venus graha deity popularly termed as Daynt Guru - Preceptor to Asura- the opposite of Sura- sura is warrior - sura refers to surajdev the solar deity Sun le soleil -  emblem of atma soul 

so if sura is warrior I would say opposite is lover as in Sufi-vedantic-bhagti lover of Allah Bhagwan God etc

the emblem of Venus is six point star of inverted triangles (the sign coopted by jew)

whereas r path is Jupiterian swastika path Now khanda

concept of time is somewhat different for the two paths linear vs cyclical but Syrian Statesman Bashar Assad openly speak of reincarnation principle 

puranic hinduism permits warrior caste unlimited number of wives

Islam restricts man to four wives 

Islamics claim their religion put an end to slavery plus true Islam is actually pure vegetaryan plus the afroasiatic practice of sunnat damage to genitals is actually nonislamic 

honour killing is strictly a modern mud race Hindu phenomenon— true RigVedic religion is like Sikh religion- liberty equality of males females - no forced marriages 

Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) had problems with jews(who amongst us doesn’t) 

Akbar tried to create new religion but failed.

Ar all times throughout our history approximately half the Sangat in the Gurdvara has been Muslim and half Hindu- I speak of Sangat in our historic ancestral sacred holy homeland of Greater AfPak & environs 

the Battles & wars of the NW Subcontinent were never sectarian per se— the conflict was over good governance or lack thereof

<banned word filter activated> aurangjeb whom dirty jewess academic  audrey t defends had  his brother murdered and never arranged his daughters marriage in addition to the atrocities against 4 sahibzade

u people who say five beloved were from all different castes and regions of India and thus justify intermarriage with even Xtianity freaks

tell me why we can’t marry pious musalmann because thirty percent of Guru army was is consisting of Musalmann.- I know their conception rites r different than standard GarbhDhan sanskar of hinduism and there is special recitation from Gurbani for Sikh conception rite and jain by birth Osho says it’s always important to say prayer before intimacy otherwise one is a criminal 

rehit maryada says Sikh must marry Sikh and musalmann cannot upon pain of death alter religion - what is rational behind this - ?  I know Pashtun helped our Panth at one critical point in our history— we promised Ummah we would help them if their religion were ever in trouble— well it’s been decades now since the beleaguered Ummah has been suffering the most abject heinous persecution- it’s about time we helped but how? 

the people who say Sikh descent from Hindu r stupid because hinduism is a way of life not an ethnicity- Julia Roberts is hindu 

the Jats Ramgharia Pashtun Rajput lineages are distinct from caste varnashram system  which is social setup a commonwealth of sorts  caste is from Portuguese word chaste- varna is Tamil Dravidian word for colour - colour of disposition and character of the guna innate qualities of Brahman Kshatriyas vaish sudra - idiots think colour refers to melanin or lack thereof 

these Iranic tribes r of south central Asian origin 

Anyway don’t listen to anything a non Dharmik person tells u of our history- the tribes comprising the backbone of our Panth have existed since time immemorial- once we were Buddhist some of us Zarathustra some hindu- described simply as “indian pagan” by dr Elst 

pagan is variation of Bhagwan 
 there r Sikh of Afghan descent-Pashtun descent Arabic descent Euro origins too including German Dutch Russian and Bengal origin Sikh 

where Akbar failed at creating new religion I would like to succeed/ Baba Nanak blessed Akbar’s Seven Generations to remain in power  

mine is simply the renewal and revival of something religion decisively destroyed: Romance- sachaPyar

i write book too

 

 

 

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, Guest Prabh108 said:

True Islam is actually similar to Zarathustra path. Also a full one third 30 percent of Satguru’s fauj is/was consisting of Musalmann.

it is wrong of u to malign the Prophet of Arabia for two reasons 

number one He was very good being- an Avatar incarnation of Shukra dev - Venus graha deity popularly termed as Daynt Guru - Preceptor to Asura- the opposite of Sura- sura is warrior - sura refers to surajdev the solar deity Sun le soleil -  emblem of atma soul 

so if sura is warrior I would say opposite is lover as in Sufi-vedantic-bhagti lover of Allah Bhagwan God etc

the emblem of Venus is six point star of inverted triangles (the sign coopted by jew)

whereas r path is Jupiterian swastika path Now khanda

concept of time is somewhat different for the two paths linear vs cyclical but Syrian Statesman Bashar Assad openly speak of reincarnation principle 

puranic hinduism permits warrior caste unlimited number of wives

Islam restricts man to four wives 

Islamics claim their religion put an end to slavery plus true Islam is actually pure vegetaryan plus the afroasiatic practice of sunnat damage to genitals is actually nonislamic 

honour killing is strictly a modern mud race Hindu phenomenon— true RigVedic religion is like Sikh religion- liberty equality of males females - no forced marriages 

Prophet Mohammed (pbuh) had problems with jews(who amongst us doesn’t) 

Akbar tried to create new religion but failed.

Ar all times throughout our history approximately half the Sangat in the Gurdvara has been Muslim and half Hindu- I speak of Sangat in our historic ancestral sacred holy homeland of Greater AfPak & environs 

the Battles & wars of the NW Subcontinent were never sectarian per se— the conflict was over good governance or lack thereof

<banned word filter activated> aurangjeb whom dirty jewess academic  audrey t defends had  his brother murdered and never arranged his daughters marriage in addition to the atrocities against 4 sahibzade

u people who say five beloved were from all different castes and regions of India and thus justify intermarriage with even Xtianity freaks

tell me why we can’t marry pious musalmann because thirty percent of Guru army was is consisting of Musalmann.- I know their conception rites r different than standard GarbhDhan sanskar of hinduism and there is special recitation from Gurbani for Sikh conception rite and jain by birth Osho says it’s always important to say prayer before intimacy otherwise one is a criminal 

rehit maryada says Sikh must marry Sikh and musalmann cannot upon pain of death alter religion - what is rational behind this - ?  I know Pashtun helped our Panth at one critical point in our history— we promised Ummah we would help them if their religion were ever in trouble— well it’s been decades now since the beleaguered Ummah has been suffering the most abject heinous persecution- it’s about time we helped but how? 

the people who say Sikh descent from Hindu r stupid because hinduism is a way of life not an ethnicity- Julia Roberts is hindu 

the Jats Ramgharia Pashtun Rajput lineages are distinct from caste varnashram system  which is social setup a commonwealth of sorts  caste is from Portuguese word chaste- varna is Tamil Dravidian word for colour - colour of disposition and character of the guna innate qualities of Brahman Kshatriyas vaish sudra - idiots think colour refers to melanin or lack thereof 

these Iranic tribes r of south central Asian origin 

Anyway don’t listen to anything a non Dharmik person tells u of our history- the tribes comprising the backbone of our Panth have existed since time immemorial- once we were Buddhist some of us Zarathustra some hindu- described simply as “indian pagan” by dr Elst 

pagan is variation of Bhagwan 
 there r Sikh of Afghan descent-Pashtun descent Arabic descent Euro origins too including German Dutch Russian and Bengal origin Sikh 

where Akbar failed at creating new religion I would like to succeed/ Baba Nanak blessed Akbar’s Seven Generations to remain in power  

mine is simply the renewal and revival of something religion decisively destroyed: Romance- sachaPyar

i write book too

 

 

 

 

 

 

You make no sense.

I suggest you quell your ego before it leads to further mental health issues.

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18 hours ago, Not2Cool2Argue said:

Also new finding was the muslims in Saudi Arabi that turned sikh. Their writings were recently found. Bahi pinderpal singh talks about them in his katha. Google it.

A muslim who had turned sikh during guru nanaks time was buried alive or stoned to death. Sorry forgot the name

।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ। 

Hanji, here is the book called Taajudin's diary about Taajudin who stayed with Guru Maharaj for 2 years and travelled from Baghdad to Mecca with Guru Ji. Syed Prithipaal Singh ji found the diary in a library.

http://sikhbookclub.com/Book/Taajudin-Diary

In the year 1510 AD, Taajudin Naqshbandi, a Persian/Arabic writer met Guru Nanak Dev ji during his journey through the Middle East. For the next two years, Taajudin lived with the Guru and kept a detailed eyewitness account in a manuscript titled Siyahto Baba Nanak Fakir. After taking a leave from Guru ji, Taajudin deposited the manuscript in a library in Medina.

In the year 1927, Mushtaq Hussein a young man from Kashmir, while studying as a moulvi in Medina came across Taajudin's manuscript. The manuscript changed Mushtaq's life, and he converted to Sikhism and and went on to become famous as Sant Syed Prithipal Singh. While in the Middle East, Mushtaq visited several places built in the memory of the Guru and spoke to Arabs who were still Guru ji's Sikhs. The book ‘Taajudin’s Diary’ is based on the unpublished autobiography of Sant Ji. The book retraces the transformational journeys of Taajudin and Mushtaq Hussein following in the footsteps of the great Guru. This remarkable must-read book references historical documents and monuments little-known in Sikhism. The appendices in this book also contain information on lesser-known travels of Guru Ji in Nepal and Himalayas.

।ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕਾ ਖ਼ਾਲਸਾ ਵਾਹਿਗੁਰੂ ਜੀ ਕੀ ਫ਼ਤਹਿ।

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On 10/28/2019 at 1:54 AM, Guest Goalee said:

Hi, I just want the names of a few Muslims that started following the Gurus and became Sikh, to shut up a guy who's saying that all Sikhs are Hindus. Somehow that's where the argument has reached. A bit of history along with the names would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance! 

 

On 11/3/2019 at 5:02 PM, Guest DhanDhan BhaiMardana said:

Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh in history.

50% of all Guru keh Sikh between the period of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj to Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj were originally Muslims who has left Islam (apostates).

Bhai Mardana Ji was even attacked for being an apostate from Islam by Wali Kandhari and his Muslim fanatics in a town called Hasan Abdal in Pakistan.

Bhail Bahlol Ji from Iraq was another Muslim apostate who became a strong GurSikh via the light of truth shown to him by Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji of the Panj Piare had parents who followed Islam.

Yogi Allah Yaar Khan was a famous GurSikh disciple of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Sain Mian Mir had also rejected the ideology of Islam to become Guru ke Sikh.

The main reasons all these hundreds of thousands of Muslims became Sikh was they rejected core concepts of Islam such as slavery, terrorism, genocide, rape, pedophilia as practised by the Prophet Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

 

 

 

Mata Bebe Nanki jee (sister of First Master) was the first Sikh, not Bhai saab Bhai Mardana jee.

There were other famous personalities who were Muslims, before they became Sikh.

- Bhai saab Bhai Rai Bular jee.

- Bhai saab Bhai Adam jee (father of the famous Bhai saab Bhai Bhagtu jee).

- Bhai saab Bhai Behlo jee (famous Sikh of Fifth Master).

- Bhai saab Bhai Manjh jee (another famous Sikh of Fifth Master).

- Bhai saab Bhai Wazir Khan jee (the minister in the court of Jahangir and later Shah Jahan)

- There was a Muslim Saint during the time of Tenth master, who was given Khande da Amrit, as he was very scared of death. I think his name was Bhai Ajmer Shah jee (later Bhai Ajmer Singh jee).

- There was another Jatt (Chahal got), who became a Sikh during the time of Ninth Master. His name is mentioned in Sri Sooraj Prakash Granth. Daas is not completely sure though, on whether he was a Muslim or not. Most likely, he was.

- The Daroga (Prison Warden) of the jail where Ninth master was imprisoned before his Shaheedi, also became a Sikh. Daas is not completely sure though, on whether he was a Muslim or not. Most likely, he was.

- Two Muslim Saints (from Kashmir area) became Sikhs during the time of Sixth Master, after they received the treasure of Naam Daan.

- From the names, it seems that the two main followers of Sahibjada Baba Gurditta jee were also from Muslim families. Their names were Bhai saab Bhai Almast jee and Bhai saab Bhai Balu Hasna jee

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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On 10/28/2019 at 1:54 AM, Guest Goalee said:

Hi, I just want the names of a few Muslims that started following the Gurus and became Sikh, to shut up a guy who's saying that all Sikhs are Hindus. Somehow that's where the argument has reached. A bit of history along with the names would be appreciated.

Thanks for your help in advance! 

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Even the wife of Bhai saab Bhai Rai Jodh jee (a Muslim Rajput warrior who assisted Sixth Master in a battle) was a Sikh. Daas is not sure if he and his other family members became Sikhs or not. The grandsons (Bhai Lakhmir jee and Bhai Shamir jee) of Bhai Rai Jodh jee stayed loyal to the Gurughar and helped Sri Satguru jee (Tenth Master).

 

Bhul chuk maaf

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On 11/20/2019 at 8:58 PM, Guest Paapiman said:

Bhai saab Bhai Rai Jodh jee 

Bhai Rai Jodh Ji were Guru de pukkeh Sikh and their entire lineage were also GurSikhs.

Bhai Lakhmir Singh Ji and Bhai Shamir Singh were Amritdhari and Bhai Rai Jodh Ji were another apostate from Islam.

On 11/3/2019 at 10:02 PM, Guest DhanDhan BhaiMardana said:

Bhai Mardana Ji was the first Sikh in history.

50% of all Guru keh Sikh between the period of Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj to Guru Arjan Dev Ji Maharaj were originally Muslims who has left Islam (apostates).

Bhai Mardana Ji was even attacked for being an apostate from Islam by Wali Kandhari and his Muslim fanatics in a town called Hasan Abdal in Pakistan.

Bhail Bahlol Ji from Iraq was another Muslim apostate who became a strong GurSikh via the light of truth shown to him by Guru Nanak Dev Ji Maharaj

Bhai Sahib Singh Ji of the Panj Piare had parents who followed Islam.

Yogi Allah Yaar Khan was a famous GurSikh disciple of Guru Gobind Singh Ji

Sain Mian Mir had also rejected the ideology of Islam to become Guru ke Sikh.

The main reasons all these hundreds of thousands of Muslims became Sikh was they rejected core concepts of Islam such as slavery, terrorism, genocide, rape, pedophilia as practised by the Prophet Muhammad himself and in the Quran itself.

This is all true but do Sikhs ever bother telling people in Malerkotla or the 200million Indian Muslims any of the above facts?

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Also Mata Kaulan Ji.

She was the daughter of a Muslim who was the follower of Mian Mir. Their whole family respected Mian Mir. And Mian Mir Ji respected Guru Arjan Dev ji. From Mian Mir, Mata Kaulan heard abt buruji and became a sikh. Her father found out and was furious. He locked her up. She prayed to Guruji and at that time the Guru was Sri Guru Hargobind Sahib ji And Guruji rescued her and established her at her own residence which is now a gurdwara Mata Kaulan Ji

Also some muslims were sewaks not Sikhs. Which means they were followers or shardaalus of Guruji but did not convert. Like Nabi Khan Gani Khan and many many more muslims. Bhai Budhan Shah. 

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