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1 hour ago, Ranjeet01 said:

 

All these platitudes of how great the Sikhs were bla bla but actions prove otherwise.

I think certain people have been using that strategy of being friendly and positive about Sikhs to their face but feeling completely the other way inside for a LONG WHILE. When all the bhangra gigs used to go on, certain sullay used to be all friendly like that - but we all know what their real objective was now. Certain apnay are susceptible to flattery, no matter where it comes from, and everyone knows it. Goray used it along caste basis, flattering certain groups as 'manly and courageous' to their face, but really considering them dimwitted and easily manipulable canon fodder out of earshot. We need a strong sustained campaign to highlight this idiocy with flattery starting from young amongst apnay. That tactic gets used all the time even now. It's that childlike gullibility certain people have again. That's a reputation we want to tear down as swiftly as possible. 

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That guy's answers in the article are pretty odious. Why did this Ahmed Shah Masood occupy the Gurdwara? He makes no judgement and does not condemn him for occupying the place of worship of another community and by doing so subjecting it to bombardment. This Ahmed Masood <banned word filter activated> should have used a mosque. He also states that the Taliban treated the Sikhs well, yes, if the Sikhs were ok with being third class citizens. You will see more of these types of articles especially as the Indian media aligned with the Congress sees that Sikhs are starting to rethink their opposition to CAA after what an Indian Muslim did to Afghan Sikhs. 

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3 hours ago, singhbj singh said:

The gurdwara does not look particularly historic nor has any historical significance. 

We had to leave Gurdwaras in Pakistan which were more historically significant and connected to our gurus so I am perplexed as to why our brothers and sisters continue to live there. 

I cannot be a***ed to hear the usual condolences. It does nothing.

Like I said before , the most feasible action to take is to evacuate. 

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9 minutes ago, singhbj singh said:

Basically, they have no future, and their kids are abused in schools. 

Anyone with any sense will get out while they can. India needs to bring them in. Our Panjabi Sikh brothers and sisters need to welcome them. 

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