Ahankar (Ego) & Nimrat (Humility)

[Ranjeet01 2,596]

This is something that has mulled me for a long time.

Even though Ego is a vice and Humility is a virtue and you would think they are complete opposites and have nothing to do with each other. I have come to the realisation that these two are related to each other.

I see them on a see-saw in that if one of these goes up, the other one goes down.

However, I think the ego is another necessary vikaar (it does serve a function) because too much humility can make one like a doormat. 

These two need to be seen in their contexts and they need to be balanced like yin and yang.

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6 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

This is something that has mulled me for a long time.

Even though Ego is a vice and Humility is a virtue and you would think they are complete opposites and have nothing to do with each other. I have come to the realisation that these two are related to each other.

I see them on a see-saw in that if one of these goes up, the other one goes down.

However, I think the ego is another necessary vikaar (it does serve a function) because too much humility can make one like a doormat. 

These two need to be seen in their contexts and they need to be balanced like yin and yang.

2 short booklets regarding egoistic consciousness and it's role in our lives:

http://brahmbungadodra.org/bookdata/bookpdf/1491988964009-Haumai-Part-1.pdf

http://brahmbungadodra.org/bookdata/bookpdf/Lekh_10_Haumai_Part_2_SSJK.pdf

 

Highly recommend as it addresses your points made above

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22 hours ago, Ranjeet01 said:

This is something that has mulled me for a long time.

Even though Ego is a vice and Humility is a virtue and you would think they are complete opposites and have nothing to do with each other. I have come to the realisation that these two are related to each other.

I see them on a see-saw in that if one of these goes up, the other one goes down.

However, I think the ego is another necessary vikaar (it does serve a function) because too much humility can make one like a doormat. 

These two need to be seen in their contexts and they need to be balanced like yin and yang.

Very wise observation. Too much outward humility signals weakness and attracts the predatory natured individuals to find benefit, while also attracting similar mild mannered people into your orbit. Too much outward ego pushes away caring people and creates a conflict with other ego heavy people. 

The see-saw is very real!

I see only Sehaj avastha, the middle path of balance, as the best solution. Many novice spiritual people come on this path and adopt unbalanced humility, only to be let down by fraudsters who feast on these types.

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35 minutes ago, Jai Tegang! said:

I see only Sehaj avastha, the middle path of balance, as the best solution. Many novice spiritual people come on this path and adopt unbalanced humility, only to be let down by fraudsters who feast on these types.

Please explain more on Sehaj avastha and how to obtain it.

[Ranjeet01 2,596]

One of the examples you can see Ahankar and Nimrat that can be seen working together is with sportspeople. 

I have always wondered why sportspeople can seem full of themselves, quite arrogant and cocky. But I guess the nature of competition does this. Having Ahankar has a part in the competitiveness. Then question is then does having Bir Ras have level of Ahankarness.

But when 2 ego-heavy come against each other and there is conflict.

You see this with boxers a lot.

But after the fight, you see the humility and mutual respect.