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On 11/8/2021 at 6:46 AM, justasking said:

So my cousin who has Kirpan on him told me that he cannot pull it out because if he does he will have to shed blood with it or cut himself with it. Is this true?

The kirpan is symbolic of the internal spiritual warrior and the temporal warrior.

It should be used as a last resort to defend oneself. 

We are supposed to be both spiritual and temporal warriors.. the kirpan symbolises this. 

Guru Nanak went into Mecca at a time where many were being slaughtered and tortured in unimaginable ways for speaking against islam. He didn't care what anyone thought of him, he has no fear of death and has no fear at all..... he knows there is no fear, and God/ Truth is all pervading. He lives by the Sword of Truth. 

He is the epitome of a spiritual and temporal warrior, as are all of the Gurus. Fighting and accepting shaheedi is also being a spiritual and temporal warrior. 

 

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On 11/11/2021 at 2:11 PM, Guest Symbolic said:

The kirpan is symbolic of the internal spiritual warrior and the temporal warrior.

It should be used as a last resort to defend oneself. 

We are supposed to be both spiritual and temporal warriors.. the kirpan symbolises this. 

Guru Nanak went into Mecca at a time where many were being slaughtered and tortured in unimaginable ways for speaking against islam. He didn't care what anyone thought of him, he has no fear of death and has no fear at all..... he knows there is no fear, and God/ Truth is all pervading. He lives by the Sword of Truth. 

He is the epitome of a spiritual and temporal warrior, as are all of the Gurus. Fighting and accepting shaheedi is also being a spiritual and temporal warrior. 

 

The Kirpan is beyond symbolic. One it is actual and practical. Two it's a symbol of Har's Kirpa. In tandem it additionally represents Miri and Piri. 

It should be used any time necessary. For yourself and innocents. 

Welcome back. 

If you have an answer to op's question have at it. Nothing you said pertains to that. 

Nobody asked for your assumptions about Guru Nanak Dev Ji's thought process, we have Gurbani for that. 

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On 11/7/2021 at 10:46 PM, justasking said:

So my cousin who has Kirpan on him told me that he cannot pull it out because if he does he will have to shed blood with it or cut himself with it. Is this true?

That is an actual practice. Not a mandatory one. It serves to instill a proper mindset about the seriousness of the Kirpan, and drawing it. It is not a toy. If it comes out, except for maintenance it should probably cut. And so people choose to hold themselves to this. 

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On 11/11/2021 at 2:11 PM, Guest Symbolic said:

The kirpan is symbolic of the internal spiritual warrior and the temporal warrior.

It should be used as a last resort to defend oneself. 

We are supposed to be both spiritual and temporal warriors.. the kirpan symbolises this. 

Guru Nanak went into Mecca at a time where many were being slaughtered and tortured in unimaginable ways for speaking against islam. He didn't care what anyone thought of him, he has no fear of death and has no fear at all..... he knows there is no fear, and God/ Truth is all pervading. He lives by the Sword of Truth. 

He is the epitome of a spiritual and temporal warrior, as are all of the Gurus. Fighting and accepting shaheedi is also being a spiritual and temporal warrior. 

 

And learn some respect. 

Kirpan. Capitalized. Not mecca uppercase Kirpan lower. 

Guru Nanak Dev Ji 

Guru Sahiban 

Shaheedi. Uppercase. 

 

 

 

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On 11/14/2021 at 5:07 AM, GurjantGnostic said:

That is an actual practice. Not a mandatory one. It serves to instill a proper mindset about the seriousness of the Kirpan, and drawing it. It is not a toy. If it comes out, except for maintenance it should probably cut. And so people choose to hold themselves to this. 

I think it’s similar to how some Sikhs don’t eat when they are away from their Kirpan despite that not actually being in the Maryada. 

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