Young Sikhs Birmingham Meeting

[rKr]

As for the Rob Marris story. Ever asked the people why they were approaching him. They proabably wanted India taken off the list of safe countries so they could claim asylum in the UK.  Just visit a legal clinic at a Gurdwara near you to find out what people are prepared to do to claim asylum. Flowing beards at the time of claiming asylum soon become trim beards when the asylum claims are refused and the claimant then tries other methods to stay in the UK.

Veer come on, yes Sikhs have filed law suits against the GOI - and got where?? Lets think about it for a minute - as if they would have it, the Sikhs, that "minority filth" they've tried to destroy countless times, like they would get anywhere with a lawsuit!!

Also, I completely abhore your suggestion about the people who spoke with Rob Marris, please, don't dump everyone in the same category as these asylum seekers, that would be so unfair of you. Not one of them asked to be taken out of Panjab or any such idea, they asked for help in seeking JUSTICE.

Why is it veer, that we ourselves keep failing to see the need in our own brothers and sisters? Is it because, if we agree that everything is okae in Panjab, then perhaps one day we'll start believing it? Then what happens? Do we forget the pain that our brothers and sisters are enduring to this day still??

LIST OF DEATHS

IN POLICE CUSTODY

w.e.f. JANUARY 1997- TILL JUNE, 2001

1997

1. March 14, 1997: Kashmir Singh, a Youth of village Pandori Rukman near Hoshiarpur, was abducted from his house in the village alongwith his father Ajit Singh by a police party headed by Sub-Inspector Gulzar Chand, SHO of Police Station Taran Taran(City) and after dropping his father, killed him in fake encounter. Later on the Sessions Court at Hoshiarpur held it to be a fake encounter and sentenced the accused policemen to life imprisonment for the dastardly act. Similarly, the National Human Rights Commission awarded a compensation of Rupees five lac to the next of kin of the deceased.

2. April 7, 1997: Paramjit Singh, son of Pritam Singh died in Police Custody of P.S.Dakha, Ludhiana.

3. April 17, 1997: Ravi Kumar Verma, a migrant labourer of Ludhiana died in Police custody of P.S.Division No.4, Ludhiana.

4. May 28,1997: Jagsir Singh(25), a resident of village Bilaspur, District Faridkot died due to Police torture in P.S.Bilaspur.

5. June 30, 1997: Narinder Singh(18), a resident of village Fetahpur, District Amritsar was beaten to death by the police of P.S.Amritsar.

6. July 20, 1997: Jaggar Singh of Kotduna village in District Sangrur, died in Police Custody of P.S.Dhanaula, District Sangrur.

7. July 21, 1997: Baljeet Singh (24) son of Nahar Singh, a resident of village Burj Dhilwan, District Bathinda was killed in Police Custody of Police Station Maur, District Bathinda.

8. August 15, 1997: Satnam Singh alias Satti, a resident of Jalandhar district, died in Police custody of P.S. Adampur.

9. August 30, 1997: Pala Singh, son of Gurcharan Singh, a resident of village Bhai Bakhtaur, District Bathinda was killed in Police Station Kot Fatta, Distt.Bathinda. He allegedly by consuming poison kept in the Police Station. The Punjab State Human Rights Commission awarded an interim compensation of Rupees fifty thousand to the next of kin of the deceased.

10. September 1, 1997:

Jagan Nath alias Jagnoo son of Ranjha Ram, a resident of village Pasla in Jalandhar district was killed in Police custody of P.S. Guraya, Distt. Jalandhar. Painfully, the Punjab Human Rights Commission, dismissed the complaint into his death for no valid reasons.

11. September 5, 1997: Sham Lal son of Banta Singh, a resident of village Ajnali, District Fatehgarh Sahib was beaten to death by a police party of P.S. Gobindgarh. Ironically, this Complaint also met the same fate in the Punjab State Human Rights Commission.

12. September 12, 1997: Babu Ram(25), a resident of Malerkotla was killed in Police Custody of P.S. Ahmedgarh, District Malerkotla.

13. September 21, 1997: Kala Singh, a resident of village Shadipur Mommian, District Patiala was killed in police custody of P.S.Patran, District Patiala.

14. October 3, 1997: Manfool Ram, a dalit of village Dakha, District Ludhiana died in Police custody of P.S.Mullanpur Dakha, District Ludhiana.

15. October 24, 1997: Bhagwan Singh,(35 ) a resident of village Jhuge Lal Singh, District Fazilka died in Police custody of P.S. Fazilka (Sadar).

16. October 26,1997: Bhola Singh, a resident of village Matti in District Mansa died in Police custody of P.S. Mansa.

1998

17. April 7, 1998: Paramjit Singh, son of Pritam Singh, a resident of Ludhiana died in police custody of Ludhiana police.

18. April 25, 1998: Dr.Om Parkash Jail, an eye-specialist of Ludhiana died of heart attack due to Police beating at his residence by an Assistant Police Inspector of CIA Staff, Moga.

19. August 22, 1998: Karnail Singh(60), a resident of village Jagatpura in District Taran Taran died due to beating by policemen in P.S. Chabal, Taran Taran.

1999

20. January 26, 1999: Jasbir Khan(25), a resident of village Sohana, District Ropar was beaten to death in Police custody of P.S.Sohana.

21. August 15, 1999: Lakhbir Singh alias Lakha (35), a resident of village Ratoke in District Taran Taran was killed in police

custody of P.S.Sarhali, District Taran Taran.

22. September 18, 1999: Devinder Singh alias Bhola(21), a resident of village Hassanpur in District Ropar was tortured to death by policemen of CIA Staff, Ropar The three policemen responsible for the gruesome killing have been sentenced to life imprisonment by the Sessions Judge, Ropar.

23. September 26,1999: Jagdish Rai Jain(49) a resident of Bathinda died in Police Custody of P.S. Paras Ram Nagar, Bathinda.

24. December 11,1999: Gurbhej Singh(21), a resident of Amritsar died in police custody of P.S.Amrtisar.

This is a list of 24 names that we know of, from a list of thousands we're yet trying to discover... but everything in Panjab is okae.

[Kaur_kiran]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

i totally agree with what YSL penji is saying...

stop singh veer ji do you even know anything about our fight for khalistan? because i have come across people who dont want khalistan and they dont even know anything about it...

khalistan isn't our want its not our need its our RIGHT

our RIGHT to FREEDOM.

our RIGHT to JUSTICE.

imagin if that was your mother and your sister RAPED infront of you....

your father burnt alive...or beaten to death....

would you want revenge for it? would you want to seek justice for it?

i think you would...!!!!!!! so khalsitan is our way to get justice for those people's mothers fathers sisters and brothers.

khalistan is the way to get justice for all those people who died for what reason?

and nothing is ok in punjab! not until we seek justice ! ! !

[stopsingh]

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

i totally agree with what YSL penji is saying...

stop singh veer ji do you even know anything about our fight for khalistan? because i have come across people who dont want khalistan and they dont even know anything about it...

khalistan isn't our want its not our need its our RIGHT

our RIGHT to FREEDOM.

our RIGHT to JUSTICE.

imagin if that was your mother and your sister RAPED infront of you....

your father burnt alive...or beaten to death....

would you want revenge for it? would you want to seek justice for it?

i think you would...!!!!!!! so khalsitan is our way to get justice for those people's mothers fathers sisters and brothers.

khalistan is the way to get justice for all those people who died for what reason?

and nothing is ok in punjab! not until we seek justice ! ! !

You want it go fight for it. the movement is finished. No one wants it Punjab so declare it in the West Midlands or wherever you live.

You people sit in your homes in Europe and talk about Khalistan but do not have the bottle to go back. Go on get up off your backsides and go back to Punjab to discover the truth or are you chickens ?

Zaffarwal, Chohan etc all big time charlies in the Khalistan moveme

nt are happily living in Punjab NOW. They do not give two hoots about Khalistan anymore and Zaffarwal even admits the Pakistan ISI were getting him and his mates to undertake acts of terrorism.

[stopsingh]

LIST OF DEATHS IN POLICE CUSTODY

w.e.f. JANUARY 1997- TILL JUNE, 2001

1997

1. March 14, 1997: Kashmir Singh, a Youth of village Pandori Rukman near Hoshiarpur, was abducted from his house in the village alongwith his father Ajit Singh by a police party headed by Sub-Inspector Gulzar Chand, SHO of Police Station Taran Taran(City) and after dropping his father, killed him in fake encounter. Later on the Sessions Court at Hoshiarpur held it to be a fake encounter and sentenced the accused policemen to life imprisonment for the dastardly act. Similarly, the National Human Rights Commission awarded a compensation of Rupees five lac to the next of kin of the deceased.

2. April 7, 1997: Paramjit Singh, son of Pritam Singh died in Police Custody of P.S.Dakha, Ludhiana.

3. April 17, 1997: Ravi Kumar Verma, a migrant labourer of Ludhiana died in Police custody of P.S.Division No.4, Ludhiana.

4. May 28,1997: Jagsir Singh(25), a resident of village Bilaspur, District Faridkot died due to Police torture in P.S.Bilaspur.

5. June 30, 1997: Narinder Singh(18), a resident of village Fetahpur, District Amritsar was beaten to death by the police of P.S.Amritsar.

6. July 20, 1997: Jaggar Singh of Kotduna village in District Sangrur, died in Police Custody of P.S.Dhanaula, District Sangrur.

7. July 21, 1997: Baljeet Singh (24) son of Nahar Singh, a resident of village Burj

Dhilwan, District Bathinda was killed in Police Custody of Police Station Maur, District Bathinda.

8. August 15, 1997: Satnam Singh alias Satti, a resident of Jalandhar district, died in Police custody of P.S. Adampur.

9. August 30, 1997: Pala Singh, son of Gurcharan Singh, a resident of village Bhai Bakhtaur, District Bathinda was killed in Police Station Kot Fatta, Distt.Bathinda. He allegedly by consuming poison kept in the Police Station. The Punjab State Human Rights Commission awarded an interim compensation of Rupees fifty thousand to the next of kin of the deceased.

10. September 1, 1997: Jagan Nath alias Jagnoo son of Ranjha Ram, a resident of village Pasla in Jalandhar district was killed in Police custody of P.S. Guraya, Distt. Jalandhar. Painfully, the Punjab Human Rights Commission, dismissed the complaint into his death for no valid reasons.

11. September 5, 1997: Sham Lal son of Banta Singh, a resident of village Ajnali, District Fatehgarh Sahib was beaten to death by a police party of P.S. Gobindgarh. Ironically, this Complaint also met the same fate in the Punjab State Human Rights Commission.

12. September 12, 1997: Babu Ram(25), a resident of Malerkotla was killed in Police Custody of P.S. Ahmedgarh, District Malerkotla.

13. September 21, 1997: Kala Singh, a resident of village Shadipur Mommian, District Patiala was killed in police custody of P.S.Patran, District Patiala.

14. October 3, 1997: Manfool Ram, a dalit of village Dakha, District Ludhiana died in Police custody of P.S.Mullanpur Dakha, District Ludhiana.

15. October 24, 1997: Bhagwan Singh,(35 ) a resident of village Jhuge Lal Singh, District Fazilka died in Police custody of P.S. Fazilka (Sadar).

16. October 26,1997: Bhola Singh, a resident of village Matti in District Mansa died in Police custody of P.S. Mansa.

1998

17. April 7, 1998: Paramjit Singh, son of Pritam Singh, a resident of Ludhiana died in police custody of Ludhiana police.

18. April 25, 19

98: Dr.Om Parkash Jail, an eye-specialist of Ludhiana died of heart attack due to Police beating at his residence by an Assistant Police Inspector of CIA Staff, Moga.

19. August 22, 1998: Karnail Singh(60), a resident of village Jagatpura in District Taran Taran died due to beating by policemen in P.S. Chabal, Taran Taran.

1999

20. January 26, 1999: Jasbir Khan(25), a resident of village Sohana, District Ropar was beaten to death in Police custody of P.S.Sohana.

21. August 15, 1999: Lakhbir Singh alias Lakha (35), a resident of village Ratoke in District Taran Taran was killed in police custody of P.S.Sarhali, District Taran Taran.

22. September 18, 1999: Devinder Singh alias Bhola(21), a resident of village Hassanpur in District Ropar was tortured to death by policemen of CIA Staff, Ropar The three policemen responsible for the gruesome killing have been sentenced to life imprisonment by the Sessions Judge, Ropar.

23. September 26,1999: Jagdish Rai Jain(49) a resident of Bathinda died in Police Custody of P.S. Paras Ram Nagar, Bathinda.

24. December 11,1999: Gurbhej Singh(21), a resident of Amritsar died in police custody of P.S.Amrtisar.

This is a list of 24 names that we know of, from a list of thousands we're yet trying to discover... but everything in Panjab is okae.

You can only come up with 24 names for such a large period ? You also ignore similar numbers killed in other Indian states which are majority Hindu !

What happens after 1999 ? Read your own post and killing numbers 1 and 22 disprove your theories about the judicial system.

If that is the basis for seeking Khalistan then perhaps you should start doing something similar in the UK because :

Figures from the Home Office show that between 1 April 2002 and 31 March 2003 there were 104 custody deaths, compared to 70 the previous year.

The highest number of custod

y deaths took place in the Metropolitan Police Force area where 17 people died, followed by the West Midlands with 11 deaths.

Wow 11 deaths in police custody in West Midlands perhaps you can start a campaign for independence in the West Midlands.

[rKr]

Veer, read the post:

"This is a list of 24 names that we know of, from a list of thousands we're yet trying to discover... but everything in Panjab is okae."

As I mentioned, these are just a FEW from the thousands, if you would like I can arrange to show you thr paperwork collated by Khalsa Human Rights together with Amnesty International... _ These are NOT the only names we have, these are a small fraction I wished to acquaint you with, would you like me to send you the paperwork listing the thousands of names? If you would, I would be more than happy to do so... Would you like to know the goings on after 1999? That too can be arranged, I wouldn't be able to list them all here, but I am sure we can arrange for you see the database of THOUSANDS of names, addresses, letter from distraught mothers who've godhi is now empty, thousands of fathers who held their sons hands whilst growing up and lost them forever as adults...

Lets not forget the long list of names Sardar Jaswant Singh Khalra took with him when approaching the GOI - are we to deny all these exist???

What beats me is why people like yourself continue to deny that such things are going on in India...

This is not my only basis for our need of Khalistan, of course not - but it is a big enough reason - 250,000 innocent sikhs have been tortured, GANG raped, murdered in fake police encounters and the like - yet this is not a good enough arguement??

And don't you worry - you think the Khalistan movement is dead, keep watching my dear, cos for the Khalistan movement to be dead you've got to kill a damn lot of us - albeit in the West - and your no hope rubbish about no one in Panjab

wanting Khalistan, come on, come with me, I will go with you to Panjab, take you in the the little huts that my mothers and fathers live in, and see the fear in their eyes, the fear the worlds LARGEST democracy has put in their hearts... Lets go, and ask that mother who still awaits her son to return home, if not alive, then at least in a body bag so she can go through his final rights.... lets ask her is everything is okae in Panjab hey??

This isn't just about Khalistan, this about seeking justice for those silenced victims, for they say they have no voice, so long as they have people who believe in their rights for freedom and justice, they will continue to have a voice!

As for how many people have died in police custody in the UK - seeing as you know so much about it, and are unwilling to accept what goes on with your own people, you may as well kick start the rights campaign for those - instead of criticising those who want to fight for the freedom and justice of their brothers and sisters.

[stopsingh]

Veer, read the post:

"This is a list of 24 names that we know of, from a list of thousands we're yet trying to discover... but everything in Panjab is okae."

As I mentioned, these are just a FEW from the thousands, if you would like I can arrange to show you thr paperwork collated by Khalsa Human Rights together with Amnesty International... _ These are NOT the only names we have, these are a small fraction I wished to acquaint you with, would you like me to send you the paperwork listing the thousands of names? If you would, I would be more than happy to do so... Would you like to know the goings on after 1999? That too can be arranged, I wouldn't be able to list them all here, but I am sure we can arrange for you see the database of THOUSANDS of names, addresses, letter from distraught mothers who've godhi is now empty, thousands of fathers who held their sons hands whilst growing up and lost them forever as adults...

Lets not forget the long list of names Sardar Jaswant Singh Khalra took with him when approaching the GOI - are we to deny all these exist???

What beats me is why people like yourself continue to deny that such things are going on in India...

This is not my only basis for our need of Khalistan, of course not - but it is a big enough reason - 250,000 innocent sikhs have been tortured, GANG raped, murdered in fake police encounters and the like - yet this is not a good enough arguement??

r>

And don't you worry - you think the Khalistan movement is dead, keep watching my dear, cos for the Khalistan movement to be dead you've got to kill a damn lot of us - albeit in the West - and your no hope rubbish about no one in Panjab wanting Khalistan, come on, come with me, I will go with you to Panjab, take you in the the little huts that my mothers and fathers live in, and see the fear in their eyes, the fear the worlds LARGEST democracy has put in their hearts... Lets go, and ask that mother who still awaits her son to return home, if not alive, then at least in a body bag so she can go through his final rights.... lets ask her is everything is okae in Panjab hey??

This isn't just about Khalistan, this about seeking justice for those silenced victims, for they say they have no voice, so long as they have people who believe in their rights for freedom and justice, they will continue to have a voice!

As for how many people have died in police custody in the UK - seeing as you know so much about it, and are unwilling to accept what goes on with your own people, you may as well kick start the rights campaign for those - instead of criticising those who want to fight for the freedom and justice of their brothers and sisters.

Go on go to Punjab then instead of hiding in Europe advocating these things. Whats up you chicken ? I have been had a look spoken with people and they do not give two hoots about the issue. I have seen how the sham organisations set up to look after children of shaheed are really more interested in taking money than looking after the kids.

Simarjeets Mann Akali Dal which advocates a Sikh homeland is as popular as the Monster Raving Looney Party. The Dal Khalsa is even less popular. Guess what he freely expresses his views and apart from an old TADA case against him no new criminal cases have been filed against him for his views.

Come on all your Khali-stanis, w

hy you hide in the west, go to Punjab and advocate your views and see for yourselves how people hate your ideas.

As for the West Midlands deaths, as a Sikh you should be concerned and campaigning for an independent Khalistan, Sikhistan (or whatever other names you want to call it) in Smethwick or Leicester.

[V]

Veer, read the post:

"This is a list of 24 names that we know of, from a list of thousands we're yet trying to discover... but everything in Panjab is okae."

As I mentioned, these are just a FEW from the thousands, if you would like I can arrange to show you thr paperwork collated by Khalsa Human Rights together with Amnesty International... _ These are NOT the only names we have, these are a small fraction I wished to acquaint you with, would you like me to send you the paperwork listing the thousands of names? If you would, I would be more than happy to do so... Would you like to know the goings on after 1999? That too can be arranged, I wouldn't be able to list them all here, but I am sure we can arrange for you see the database of THOUSANDS of names, addresses, letter from distraught mothers who've godhi is now empty, thousands of fathers who held their sons hands whilst growing up and lost them forever as adults...

Lets not forget the long list of names Sardar Jaswant Singh Khalra took with him when approaching the GOI - are we to deny all these exist???

What beats me is why people like yourself continue to deny that such things are going on in India...

r>This is not my only basis for our need of Khalistan, of course not - but it is a big enough reason - 250,000 innocent sikhs have been tortured, GANG raped, murdered in fake police encounters and the like - yet this is not a good enough arguement??

And don't you worry - you think the Khalistan movement is dead, keep watching my dear, cos for the Khalistan movement to be dead you've got to kill a damn lot of us - albeit in the West - and your no hope rubbish about no one in Panjab wanting Khalistan, come on, come with me, I will go with you to Panjab, take you in the the little huts that my mothers and fathers live in, and see the fear in their eyes, the fear the worlds LARGEST democracy has put in their hearts... Lets go, and ask that mother who still awaits her son to return home, if not alive, then at least in a body bag so she can go through his final rights.... lets ask her is everything is okae in Panjab hey??

This isn't just about Khalistan, this about seeking justice for those silenced victims, for they say they have no voice, so long as they have people who believe in their rights for freedom and justice, they will continue to have a voice!

As for how many people have died in police custody in the UK - seeing as you know so much about it, and are unwilling to accept what goes on with your own people, you may as well kick start the rights campaign for those - instead of criticising those who want to fight for the freedom and justice of their brothers and sisters.

Go on go to Punjab then instead of hiding in Europe advocating these things. Whats up you chicken ? I have been had a look spoken with people and they do not give two hoots about the issue. I have seen how the sham organisations set up to look after children of shaheed are really more interested in taking money than looking after the kids.

Simarjeets Mann Akali Dal which advocates a Sikh homeland is as popular as the Monster

Raving Looney Party. The Dal Khalsa is even less popular. Guess what he freely expresses his views and apart from an old TADA case against him no new criminal cases have been filed against him for his views.

Come on all your Khali-stanis, why you hide in the west, go to Punjab and advocate your views and see for yourselves how people hate your ideas.

As for the West Midlands deaths, as a Sikh you should be concerned and campaigning for an independent Khalistan, Sikhistan (or whatever other names you want to call it) in Smethwick or Leicester.

No-one in Panjab gives two hoots about our heritage being ruined, but then let it be ruined?

Is there freedom fo Speach in Panjab? I personally was there a few months ago and was going to get the jago valey track on the cable tv with some film showing what happened in 84. Knowing the politicians of Jalandhar i still wans't aloud, where the freedom of Speach? I spoke to them, and it was all about what happened in 84 , no foul languages or anything else - the reason - it speaks against the gov

Ever heard of Micheal Moores film? was it banned from USA?

Ever heard of Bloody Sunday?

You probably heard hawaiye with a lot of FACTS - with no censoring

or the new moving by Asha Bosle - where censor board litteraly edited 50% of her movie showing how a minority is being treated in our Mah Bharat :wub:

bhull chukk maaf

Waheguroo Jee Ka Khalsa!

Waheguroo Jee Kee Fateh!!

[rKr]

It's pointless to even put an issue in front of you - you can't see it.

I abhore the arguments you have put forward, as well as your talk about collection of money for Shaheed family's - many orphened females of panjab have been successfully married thanks to the money raised by seva by certain organisations, this seva will continue.

As for Chickens? hanji veer, this we are - because we're sitting here, using the powers that we have, using the world in which we are born, the democratic voice, freedom of expression, speech and degrees we have to try and fight for freedom.

But let me tell you something, at least we're doing something, not forgetting our ithihaas - not blindfolding ourselves, not ignoring what we know is right before our eyes...

You didn't mention whether you'd like to see the archive of names, addresses etc of the people of Panjab who need our help? Why not? Do you not want to know about your own history? Do you like others want to pull down your blindfold, yet keep your eyes closed to this violations my brothers and sisters have endured?

Chalo, Smethwick or Leicester, wherever, someone like yourself won't deter me, nor will it deter all those of us who have the wounds of our mothers and fathers engraved within our hearts and our minds.

People like you just push me forward, cos seeing people like yourself who refuse to believe the truth, makes me beg my Guru ji to give me the strength of double you, so that i may carry on playing my part in the fight against freedom and justice.

For every day and every year that goes by like this, without justice is another day and another year of painful memori

es and tears for my forgotten mothers and fathers.

[AK-47]

Listen boy, i been to punajb too, i spoken to people too, do they want khalistan.. perhaps not particularly...

do they want a return to violence... not really....

do they want more of their sons to be killed and daughters to be raped.... nope....

do they still seek justice deep down in their hearts ... YES

are they still upset and furious about the way they were treated and murdered.. YES

would they like to see people guilty of crimes against sikhi bought to justice... YES

Do they know what happened?!?! Be it pro-sikhi and khalistan stance or even the government stance!??! NO!!!

These people know nothing!! all they know or remember is the sight of the blood of their children staining the sand before their houses. The youngsters know nothing of the reasons of the struggle, why it ahppened, or what happened to those who participated in it. Most simply do not talk about it.

Do not confuse this with 'people do not want khalistan, or people do not want justice'. Iv heard so many people like u saying the same rubbish, people dnt want it, iv been there and spoken to them... did u speak to everyone in punjab then? cus thats what ur claiming, that NOBODY wants it!

Yeh perhaps we should go there and say it... guess what people there do say it! When 10,000 people marched in delhi trying to save the life of prof davinder singh bhullar, they were shouting it!!

At the same time there were 100 people only indian embassy in london, while 50,000 went to a gurdwara opening down the road on the same day. So if we going to work with numbers, india and delhi wins!

Think boy, before independan

ce is achieved, education is essential. Look at cuba one of the essential qualities of the revolution was the education of the fighters and those in villages and towns. If we want independance we must educate, if we want justice we must fight the cases.. in india in either case you die. Have you forgotten the human rights activist who was threatened on live tv in india just recently?

Talk of liberation and justice does not need boundries, it is precisely because the voice of justice cannot be raised in punjab, that it must be raised outside. If we do not, then nobody can or will.

Anyway, even when the morcha first started there were many majority of people who said it was wrong and just trouble making...later they seemed to join in... when sant ji said sikhs should carry arms as guru ji has told us, in case later wen we need them we cry because we have nothing, plenty of people said he was causing trouble.. yet when the police came to their village and took away their unarmed men and boys then they too changed their minds!

Dont worry about it, not all animals in the jungles are lions! Our lions have roared and their voice still echoes in our ears, you have chosen to close yours, well thats your choice and your life, the rest of us will carry on. Whether you like it or not!

[Singh_Shiromani]

BOLE SOOO NIHAAAAL!! SAT SRI AKAL!! WELL SAID KHALSA JI!!

KHALISTAN ZINDABAAD!