Turban VS Hard / Safety hats

[Singh1989]

Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji k Fateh, 

Another post stating my thoughts and beliefs. 

Working at a construction site my job is escorting workers / vehicles and looking after things, due to the nature of the institute this is required at the place. 

The Site manager and supervisor were concerned about me going in the actual construct site due to me unable to wear a hard hat because of the Turban. Not saying anything yet (Manager needed HIS Manager's views) even though I could have had stated "Sikhs are exempt due to Turban..." However, I had to mull it over before stating anything. I looked at the situation and needed a night to think it through. During the week I approached the manager and agreed on my own terms that I will wear a small turban (a.k.a Patka) so a hard hat can fit over. He thanked me for my Considerations. So now I wear a Patka to work. 

Before we look at the thankful law "Sikhs are exempt from wearing hard hats who wear Turbans" we need to take into consideration other factors. First and Foremost, the Dastaar MUST be a Fortified Dastaar to wear at such work places. When the Sikhs fought a war alongside the Guru Sahibs, their Dastaars were the fully Nihang type Dastaar; Shastar beneath, gol blade (can't remember technical term maybe kalgi)? around it. THEN Dastaar on top (even that had the gol shastar going around it). No matter which direction the Moghul attacked on the Sikh / Kaur's heads, the head would have been completely unaffected due to the Hard Turban tying soldiers. 

Imagine bricks falling onto somebody's head, from a height, who wore a normal Dastaar? Nokh and a normal gol? That can seriously injure or kill the person. All sorts of trouble will be gone through with the Management, laws, Gurudware committee getting involved all this and that. However, if it falls on someone who's wearing a Fortified dastaar, that person has most chances of surviving. And a Patka wearing with hard helmet? The chance of survival is great. In construction all sorts goes on; carrying ladders, trip hazard, falling materials, tight places, crawling... 

NOTE: Hard Hats are not a perfect thing in the world as on impact, they can easily break and still get through to the head. However, many accidents and mishaps have been prevented due to their usage. 

So on ANY construction sites two things are the only best safety. Hard Hats and Fortified Turbans. Anything else is asking for trouble. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Premi5]

5 minutes ago, Singh1989 said:

Waheguru Ji ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji k Fateh, 

Another post stating my thoughts and beliefs. 

Working at a construction site my job is escorting workers / vehicles and looking after things, due to the nature of the institute this is required at the place. 

The Site manager and supervisor were concerned about me going in the actual construct site due to me unable to wear a hard hat because of the Turban. Not saying anything yet (Manager needed HIS Manager's views) even though I could have had stated "Sikhs are exempt due to Turban..." However, I had to mull it over before stating anything. I looked at the situation and needed a night to think it through. During the week I approached the manager and agreed on my own terms that I will wear a small turban (a.k.a Patka) so a hard hat can fit over. He thanked me for my Considerations. So now I wear a Patka to work. 

Before we look at the thankful law "Sikhs are exempt from wearing hard hats who wear Turbans" we need to take into consideration other factors. First and Foremost, the Dastaar MUST be a Fortified Dastaar to wear at such work places. When the Sikhs fought a war alongside the Guru Sahibs, their Dastaars were the fully Nihang type Dastaar; Shastar beneath, gol blade (can't remember technical term maybe kalgi)? around it. THEN Dastaar on top (even that had the gol shastar going around it). No matter which direction the Moghul attacked on the Sikh / Kaur's heads, the head would have been completely unaffected due to the Hard Turban tying soldiers. 

Imagine bricks falling onto somebody's head, from a height, who wore a normal Dastaar? Nokh and a normal gol? That can seriously injure or kill the person. All sorts of trouble will be gone through with the Management, laws, Gurudware committee getting involved all this and that. However, if it falls on someone who's wearing a Fortified dastaar, that person has most chances of surviving. And a Patka wearing with hard helmet? The chance of survival is great. In construction all sorts goes on; carrying ladders, trip hazard, falling materials, tight places, crawling... 

NOTE: Hard Hats are not a perfect thing in the world as on impact, they can easily break and still get through to the head. However, many accidents and mishaps have been prevented due to their usage. 

So on ANY construction sites two things are the only best safety. Hard Hats and Fortified Turbans. Anything else is asking for trouble. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

@dallysingh101 works in Construction and might be able to advise 

[dallysingh101]

37 minutes ago, Premi5 said:

@dallysingh101 works in Construction and might be able to advise 

People have been working in construction with normal paghs for decades. I'm shocked that the OP's manager doesn't know this. 

If something hard and big enough falls on you, even a hardhat won't save you btw. 

@Singh1989 Are you a traffic marshal? 

[Singh1989]

On 5/4/2022 at 8:35 PM, dallysingh101 said:

People have been working in construction with normal paghs for decades. I'm shocked that the OP's manager doesn't know this. 

If something hard and big enough falls on you, even a hardhat won't save you btw. 

@Singh1989 Are you a traffic marshal? 

No my job is to escort workers on site then stay with them for however long they must be there. Vehicles NOT clamped also need looking after but about, 80% of the time the vehicles are left outside the premises. 

I work in a Prison dealing with all sorts of contractors. 

Yes, something heavy falling WILL pass through any helmet but thas something heavy, right? And it is common where over hundreds of kegs fell from a failed crane lift and killed workers who were unfortunate to be at the bottom at the time. Hard Helmets are good against; bricks, heavy debris, steelware, hard pipes, steel, crawling in tight spots, sharp object falling, a couple of KG all falling from a certain distance the head is likely to be protected. But if it falls on a person wearing a normal Pagh it MAY cause a problem. 

Waheguru willing these problems will not happen to any Sikhs EVER!