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1 minute ago, 5aaban said:

Definitely, there is a severe lack of strategic goals or planning from government, agricultural universities and people. It doesn't help when people elect governments based on freebies. People need to get over freebies and actually demand governments to take real action if they want votes. 

Promoting bhangra singers to political leaders is a major fudhoo move too. 

What does that say about our lot................  

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On 7/27/2022 at 9:24 AM, dallysingh101 said:

Promoting bhangra singers to political leaders is a major fudhoo move too. 

What does that say about our lot................  

Bhangra isn't even Panjabi culture, its an amalgamation of many dances and hip-hop. Why is this being promoted on such an extensive scale?Why can't they promote sports on the same level? 

I'm an avid reader of Panjabi history and no one dressed like these Bhangra-dancers, which many claim to be epitomes of Panjabi culture. 

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9 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

But they want to do this, it's embarrassing (everything from costume to moves). I'm an avid reader of Panjabi history and no one dressed like these Bhangra-dancers, which many claim to be epitomes of Panjabi culture. 

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Yeah, one day I'll show the forum what the true 'scantily clad' dress was for jut men, before the big skirt somehow snuck its way in. 

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5 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Yeah, one day I'll show the forum what the true 'scantily clad' dress was for jut men, before the big skirt somehow snuck its way in. 

Depends on district. I've read several books and gazetteers on dress and it depended on weather, district/area and religion. For example, most men in Panjab regardless of community used to wrap a unstitched white sheet around the torso in summers and stitched shirts were only worn in winters. A short "Choli" blouse was worn by some communities but it became discouraged as more people adopted Victorian ideas of modesty. Even Indian Sari's didn't have a blouse, it was first introduced by Jnanadanandini Devi to uphold British ideas of modesty in public. Same with attitudes to breastfeeding became more closed, earlier it was considered very normal to do it in public but it was later shunned. 

 

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1 minute ago, 5aaban said:

Depends on district. I've read several books and gazetteers on dress and it depended on weather, district/area and religion. For example, most men in Panjab used to wrap a white sheet around the torso in summers and stitched shirts were only worn in winters.  

I've seen pre-annexation paintings! People working in heat like that stripped down. lol 

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2 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

I've seen pre-annexation paintings! People working in heat like that stripped down. lol 

Ideas of modesty were different. I have a collection of old paintings, drawings and photographs to observe the changes in clothing. There are drawings and photos of women openly breastfeeding, as it was seen as natural. Today, something like this would be unimaginable in Panjab!

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13 minutes ago, dallysingh101 said:

Might as well do it now. All you juts, this is how your recent ancestors really dressed - the saucy sods! Probably why dasmesh pita brought kasheras in! lol

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Thats not the main dress. It's called a "jhaangiya" which was worn by sports-players, wrestlers and working men sometimes but it wasn't the normal or main dress. 

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3 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Ideas of modesty were different. I have a collection of old paintings, drawings and photographs to observe the changes in clothing. There are drawings and photos of women openly breastfeeding, as it was seen as natural. Today, something like this would be unimaginable in Panjab!

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This wasn't a biggy when I was young. 

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2 minutes ago, 5aaban said:

Thats not the main dress. It's called a "jhaangiya" which was worn by sports-players, wrestlers and working men sometimes but it wasn't the normal or main dress. 

I've seen a few paintings from way back explicitly mentioning juts as the subjects, and they were all dressed like this.

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