Veer Manpreet Singh claims we shouldn't worship Guru Granth Sahib ji

[BhForce]

Veer Manpreet Singh, a lay preacher, claims that

-Sikhs aren't supposed to worship Guru Granth Sahib ji.

-We are only supposed to worship God as is written in Guru Granth Sahib ji.

-We only "revere" Guru Granth Sahib ji.

 

 

He says a lot of other things in this video, some are good refutations of Hindu superstitions, but the reformers often go too far.

Anyways, what he is saying about not worshipping Guru Granth Sahib ji is totally wrong.

The reason is Guru Granth Sahib ji is Guru.

Guru is Satguru.

Satguru is God.

We worship God.

Therefore, we also worship Satguru (Guru Granth Sahib ji).

 

There are innumerable verses in Gurbani equating God and Guru.

ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਗੁਰੁ ਡੁਬਦਾ ਲਏ ਤਰਾਇ ॥੨॥
The Guru is the Supreme Lord and the Transcendent Master. The Guru floats (saves) the drowning one. p49

 

ਗੁਰੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਏਕੋ ਜਾਣੁ ॥
Know the Guru and God as One. p864

 

ਗੁਰ ਨਾਲਿ ਤੁਲਿ ਨ ਲਗਈ ਖੋਜਿ ਡਿਠਾ ਬ੍ਰਹਮੰਡੁ ॥
There is no one at par with the Guru. I have searched and seen the whole universe. p49

(If the Guru is the greatest in the whole universe, shouldn't we worship the Guru?)

 

I'd like to ask Manpreet Singh what is worship? Any reasonable definition would include obeisance, remembrance, and praise. Those are exactly the same things Gurbani says to do regarding Guru!

Remembrance and obeisance:

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੁ ਅਪਨਾ ਸਦ ਸਦਾ ਸਮ੍ਹਾਰੇ ॥
Ever, ever, I think of the True Guru,

ਗੁਰ ਕੇ ਚਰਨ ਕੇਸ ਸੰਗਿ ਝਾਰੇ ॥੧॥
and the Guru's feet I brush with my head's hair. p387
 

Praise:

ਗੁਰੁ ਪਾਰਬ੍ਰਹਮੁ ਪਰਮੇਸਰੁ ਆਪਿ ॥
The Guru himself is the transcendent Lord and the supreme master.
ਆਠ ਪਹਰ ਨਾਨਕ ਗੁਰ ਜਾਪਿ ॥੪॥੧੬॥੬੭॥
Throughout the eight watches of the day, O Nanak meditate thou on the Guru. p387

 

In fact, Gurbani says the way to find God is to worship (puja) of Guru:

ਸਤਿਗੁਰੂ ਕੇ ਚਰਨ ਧੋਇ ਧੋਇ ਪੂਜਹੁ ਇਨ ਬਿਧਿ ਮੇਰਾ ਹਰਿ ਪ੍ਰਭੁ ਲਹੁ ਰੇ ॥ ਰਹਾਉ ॥
Washing and bathing the True Guru's feet, worship thou them. In this way thou shall obtain my Lord Master. Pause. p1118

 

Could it be any clearer that we are to worship Guru ji?

[ipledgeblue]

Guru Sahibs jis were Sarguna saroop, this should also apply to Guru Granth Sahib.

We do do pooja of Guru Sahib, this is reinforced in katha such as Suraj Prakas.

But sometimes worship can mean something else beside pooja.

I think Pooja does actually have a meaning similar to "paying respect to", worship may have another meaning. Maybe this is what he is getting at?

 

Or maybe the fixo fumes got to him, I dunno ...... LOL 

[BhForce]

9 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

Guru Sahibs jis were Sarguna saroop, this should also apply to Guru Granth Sahib.

It's the missionary mindset. They would either deny that Sikhs bowed before Guru Nanak Dev ji or would say that that was only "respect" and that they only "worshipped" God.

The reason, again, is they don't believe Guru is God.

9 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

worship can mean something else beside pooja.

No, bro, it's the same thing. But just in case Veer Manpreet Singh thinks it's different, we can just say "Fine, we won't worship Guru Granth Sahib ji, we will do pooja of Guru ji."

Part of this is caused by us using English terms and then quibbling over the definitions. If we just used the word pooja, there wouldn't be a problem.

Also, Sikhs don't read Gurbani. If they did, they wouldn't fall prey to missionary preaching.

[BhForce]

9 hours ago, ipledgeblue said:

 

We do do pooja of Guru Sahib, this is reinforced in katha such as Suraj Prakas.

But sometimes worship can mean something else beside pooja

Oxford English Dictionary: Worship: reverence or veneration paid to a being or power regarded as supernatural or divine.

The problem is missionaries don't think of Guru Granth Sahib ji as supernatural or divine. Rather they think Gurbani is merely some poetry about God, who is divine.

Of course, this is totally wrong because 1) Gurbani is divine and is God

and 2) Gurbani says "the Pothi (book) is the abode of God".