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I mean no offense, but arguing about meat one way or the other is pretty useless if someone doesn't know bani or rehat. For most people eating KFC is the same as jhatkaing an animal yourself.

The rehit maryada published by the SGPC prohibits kutha. If he's a generic Sikh who has parents who don't care about Rehit, they likely buy halal meat from time to time because often that's what's available in the store. This is prohibited by all Sikh sects.

The problem is we get everything muddled up. Of course Guru ji is not discriminating, but he is also very real with us. There is nothing politically correct about Guru ji. Bani mentions men peaking through windows and looking at the wives of other men, why? because men do that! They did that centuries ago, and they still do it. But does guru ji love all men, of course he does. Guru ji gives a lot of respect to women in bani, but, do women cause problems in families, yes! but does Guru ji still love them? yes he does. Guru ji is very real. Bani calls men every name under the sun, but we don't have a problem with that. The reason we thinks its discrimination when Guru ji says men will forget their parents and follow their wives around is because we live in the politically correct west, where its illegal to say anything against women, but its fine to say anything about men. We need to stop seeing it like this. There is nothing discriminating about Guru ji saying that men will forget their parents and follow their wives instead, its a fact, that's why guru ji said it. Look at how many Punjabi families break apart because the women are constantly squabbling. If we start analysing Sikhi through the western politically correct model then a lot of things will appear wrong and outdated.

pati parmeshwar is hindu concept , based in idea that a woman cannot get mukhti in her lifetime , only if she does sewa of her husband her whole life then she will receive birth as a man then be able to earn mukhti . Sikhi we are taught to love and respect our husband as we love ourselves and to consider his sewa and his familiy's sewa as we would doing sewa of gursikhs (of course that may not be true in reality if they are monay) . Gur kirpa can and will happen irrespective of gender when we are ready to receive , women can be jiwan mukht too.

Very misguided, both the man and the woman are at the bottom of a triangle and through Sikhi you both walk the same path to Waheguru, you tell mia bhago ji that she gets led around by a man.

Yes the exact number of pages left was exactly the right amount for 9th Master's bani to be added but i heard that (think I saw some writings) where it was stated that Akaal Purkh told Guru Gobind Singh Ji not to add Dasam bani into Guru Granth Sahib Ji, I think it went along the lines of Dasam, Had a quick search and found this

it really saddens me... all those poor radhasoami sangat. vaheguru. its really not their fault they have gone to rs baba because there is many problems in life, and its goto be said... our gurdwaras do not provide the support which our community needs. our leaders do not deal with grass root problems and communicate with us on a level. we (newer generations) need to identify these problems and take the lead in this. radhasoamis do not practice gurbani kirtan. ALL OUR SIKH GURU SAHIBS PRACTICED GURBANI KIRTAN.... 5TH GURU SAHIB invented the saranda musical instrument... radhasoami baba says it is WRONG to use musical instruments for kirtan. when radhasoami's sing gurbani sahib, they never use instruments as its aginst radhasoami mat... this is stupid... musical instruments are CENTRAL TO SIKHI. radhasoami baba does not know better then our Satguru Sahibs. i can go on and on. i really can. please save your family and accept the truth. dont take my word for it. study sikh history study gurbani then you will see why we are not willing to embrase radhasoami's as a part of the sikh community.

mand5 - im an ex radhasoami..... before i continue, well done for seeking answers from another source other then your radhasoami community. for this i must commend your efforts. I use to ask my family questions, they use to tell me not to ask others because others are "non believers... they think there way is right"... also my family use to say "maharaji (rs baba) is a walking granth... those who insult him are acting in ignorance"... my friend... you, and all other radhasoamis that believe in this pakhandi baba have been brainwashed. i hate to disapoint you, but he isnt god - just the thought really does turn my stomach. the radhasoami baba is NOT antarjami (innermost knowing)... if he was, he would have knew my plans to turn to king of kings Guru Granth Sahib ji MAHARAJ - SACHE PATSHAH and he would have stoped me from doing so... but he didnt... hes nothing more then a con artist. please save your family from the falsehood of radhasoami. at their time of death u do not want them thinking of a pakhandi "maharaj"... or reciting a fake mantra. Everyone knows Gurbani is truth and real... you want your family thinking of Vaheguru and reciting Vaheguru at their time of death. i can answer all your questions. please message me your phone numeber and we can have a chat. many things wrong with radhasoami mat. 1 - randha soami land in beas is currently legally in the name of Guru Granth Sahib Ji Mahraj 2- radha soami forbids alchahol and meat... not tobacco... read into radha soami history, or read "the masters answers" and find out why tobaco is not forbiden (or allowed) in radhaosami faith 3-radha soami replaced sikh greating of WAHEGURU JI KA KHALSA WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH with "radhasoami" 4-radha soami replaced gurmantra with a fake mantra 5- radha soamis do not belioeve in guru manio granth 6- radha soamis do nothing for the victims of the 84 genocide - not even the radhasoami victims 7-radhasoami baba does not speak out against injustices (guru nanak sahib did) i can go on and on and on. the list is truely endless. radhasoami baba is nothing... nowhere near our 10 satguru sahibs and guru granth sahib ji. the works of our Puran Satguru Sahibs is nothing short then the Work of God. All radha soami baba does is fool innocent and simple sangat - this is no achievement as punjabis are generally simple in nature. Radha soami refuse to believe GURU granth sahib ji is guru... yet radhasoami mat use to be centered around Guru granth sahib ji. Guru Granth Sahib Ji use to be parkash in beas... they wheeled in sikh sangat with ttheir fake prachar... messing with Gurbani is messing with Vaheguru... this is not a small sin that can be overlooked. yes gurbani and guru granth sahib ji maharaj is universal... but that does not mean it can be misused. this is mahapaap (huge sin). radha soami copy sikh traditions like guru ka langar, yet they do not believe its necessary to keep kara kachera kirpan kesh khanga... they call dasam bani false in "spiritual letters" book in "spiritual heritage" book they say sri harimanir sahib is just "brick and water" - how offensive the other radhasoami book "guru nanak, his mystic teachings" - is wholly offensive to sikhs. bhai gurdas sahib's bani is discredited... they also disagree with the documentated history behind gurdwara panja sahib... the list is endless.... i turely can go on and on. why does radhasoami only mess with sikh history and sikh beliefs and not the beliefs of other faiths?? why does radhasoami baba keep sikh apperance?? regarding your comment "you need a living guru" this is true. guru granth sahib ji is alive. if you believe in guru granth sahib ji mahjaraj you will be aware of the following truths: "bani guru guru hai bani vich bani amritsare" "sun sun jeeva terey bani" and others. there is no difference between gurbani and the guru.... we live by listening to GURBANI. we can not believe in what you guys believe in. satbachan is not gurbani... far from it. a sikh would never recite the words of tobacco users, and a sikh would never accept a tobacco user as their satguru. tobacco is strictly forbidden in sikh faith. even if gurbani told us to run to a living human for salvation (which it doesnt)... i would never run to the feet of such a fraudster radha sooami baba. do not study gurbvani from pakhandi baba, please learn gurmukhi and study for yourself. ive done it all... my family use to visit haynes park, and beas... we used to attend bhandara and put our names down for sewa... i am so thankful that Vaheguru has saved my family from that path and brought us to the path of Gursikhi. I am deeply saddened that there are literally millions of radha soami devotees. its very saddening. ill finish on this tuk of guru gobind singh ji maharaj.. sagal duar ko shhad ke, ghaiho tuharo duar, banhe gahe kio laj as gobind das tuhar - i have abandoned all gates (paths) and i have come to yours o lord, o lord please protect my honour and hold my arm, for i am your humble servant for any mistakes bhul chuk maaf vaheguru ji ka khalsa vaheguru ji ki fateh. (mand5, inbox me, we can discuss this further if you wish, i know its hard to accept... but believe me your baba is a fake... go back to the house of Our Puran Satguru's... we know for a fact they are real and true... have no doubts and embrace their pavitar bani)