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There was a time when me and my really used to like his Katha. His way of speaking was really good. He talks about things that really makes sense. That is how he gets people do listen to him. But when we found out about his links with Kala Afghani jundli we stopped listening to him. He is very subtle about his Kala Afghani views. He would bring them up but just indirectly, never openly since he knows that if he reveals his real views people would oppose him as people opposed Darshan Lal and Jeonwala, so he has learnt a lesson from those two not to openly reveal his Kala Afghani views. He knows that most Sikhs have full faith in the Gurus but are not knowledgeable in Sikhi so he indirectly tries to brainwash people with his kala afghani views. This Jaap Sahib video on youtube is a real hard hitting proof of his mindset because he is the kind of sneaky kathakar who will never directly say what he truly beleives in. This video should be saved and spread all over so people know what this fake professor is all about. I encourage brothers and sisters here to gather as much evidence about him as possible so he can be exposed like Kala Afghana, Ghagha, Darshan Lal, Jeonwala have been exposed. Maybe a blog and youtube channel can be created dedicated to his task.

It's an irony that a person who has taken Amrit in which Dasam Banis of Jaap Sahib, Choupi Sahib, Savaye were recited can now doubt Jaap Sahib. Even critics of Dasam Granth of the Missionary college were always of the point of view that Jaap Sahib is Bani according to their book "Dasam Granth Bare". But it seems that this new generation of missionaries are now denying the whole of Dasam Granth like the Kala Afghanis. They are basically the same. Real Naastiks who must be finished from within the Panth. At least when a Muslim, Christian or Hindu attack the Sikhs we can easily unite and fight single mindedly. But these missionaries and Kala Afghanis are enemies within. They look, speak, dress in Bana just like Gursikhs, but inside they are full of Shankaa and hatred for Sikh traditions. Some innocent Sikh who is not knowledgeable in SIkhi listens to their Naastik Katha they will also become Naastiks. If there is no dasam bani, then Amrit is finished and if Amrit is finished then Khalsa Panth is also finished and we will be absorbed into the Hindu Dharm.

Everyone needs to contact Sikh channel and tell them of Dhunda's anti Sikh remarks about Jaap Sahib. His Katha should not be promoted on a wider platform.

He is a Kala Afghani. Unfortunately he is very famous in the Panth. His style of doing katha is that he talks about day to day issues that are very logical and full of good sense. He is a very good speaker which is mainly the reason for his fame. But some time or the other he will also indirectly reveal his Kala Afghani beliefs out in the open. Such people kill the Sharda others have in Sikh traditions. He is against Dasam Bani, including my favourite Dasam Bani: Sri Jaap Sahib. While people like Darshan Ragi have been exposed for his lack of knowledge, Dhunda on the other hand is different. He is knowledgeable, good speaker, uses logical argument. He has not been exposed for the Kala Afghani he is. I think that knowledgeable Gursikhs should get to work on exposing him. I could very well see him taking on the torch as leadership role when senior Kala Afghanis die such as Kala Afghana, Darshan Lal, Ghagha all of whom are elderly.

Maan is not a bad man. He's Panthic. But feel he is no longer in touch with today's realities. He should retire and pass on the torch to the next generation, hopefully someone younger.

can someone who has read this book write a review please

I don't think they are named after Shaheed Satwant Singh and Beant Singh Jee. My view is that Sants and Banta rhyme with one another so it is easier for those fools to make a joke about Sikhs. Personally I think a Sikh should be so ferocious and dangerous that the other person should think twice before making a Sikh joke in front of you. I have yet to see a Hindu and Muslim making a joke to me face to face. First you should stay strong inside and it will show strength outside. The way to get strong inside is to build your faith through Paath, Simran and keeping rehet.

Big Tera jee I agree with you. Sikh parents need to change the way they raise their children, especially daughters. For too long parents have been giving too much freedom and the result is for us to see today. We need to bring back religious and conservative values to our community. Sikh girls need to know that family and Sikh dharm is more important then one's selfish desires. I have nothing but praise for Muslims for the way they raise their girls. Say whatever you will about them, but they sure know the dangers of liberalism. Not too long ago, we too were culturally conservative like them but so much has changed for the last 1 or 2 generations. We have also not done a good job on the religious front as compared to the Muslims. Every Muslims you see, no matter how least religious he/she is knows how to do Namaaz where as only a small fraction of Sikhs can do Paath. I wish we had Taksal type mini Taksals in the west to teach our children how to do Paath and instill the spirit of Sikhi amongst the youth. Singhs in the west associated with Taksal or any knowledgeable Gursikh should open up mini Taksals in every Gurdwaras I think.

I got to agree with the original poster and SarabhaPunjab Jee. Amongst non Sikhs (namely Hindus and Muslims), our girls have a reputation that is not good. They are known to be very easy. Unfortunately Sikh girls are attractive, as a result they are prime targets. But what is really sad is how they reject Sikh boys because of Daari and Pagh, but will go to any other boy from other religions who basically just wants to take advantage of them. I agree with Paneer monster Jee who said that we need to stop beleiving and propagating that all religions are equal and lead to the same place. This absurd notion may sound all fine and impressive to the PC world, but it is causing a lot of confusion, especially amongst Sikh females who think they they do not need to be so loyal to their religion since all religions are equal and going out with a Muslim or Hindu guy okay since Sikhi says all religions are equal. I agree with this. This is the only way. Plus we seriously need to rethink the way we raise our girls. We need to bring them up with religious yet conservative values instead of the liberal bs we have been raising them with. Dandahs will have to be used brother. NO OTHER WAY

I think Mukhti for animals means getting human form. Human form is the greatest of the 84 lakh joonis because it is only in this form that one can do Bhagti of Vaheguru. Mukhti for humans means being free from the cycle of life and death. Within human form, not all humans are blessed with Sikhi. Sikhi is very rare thing. Not even 1% of humans are Sikhs. So as Sikhs we should feel thankful to Vaheguru for giving us human form and on top of that blessing us with Sikhi while in human form since more than 99% of humans are not even blessed with the priceless gift of Sikhi.

Yes you are right, but the thing about Hushiarpur is that it is the only district in Punjab where Sikhs are a minority. Plus according to the video, many of those trouble makers were brought from outside, like from Jalander. The Ravidassias from the village Dansiwal had no problem with the Nishan Sahib. In fact, they were supportive of the Nishan Sahib. But goondaas from BSP who were mainly belonging to the Ravidassia community were brought to do beadbi of the Nishan Sahib and the Gurdwara itself. If that was not enough they then went into the Gurdwara with their shoes on and uncovered head and even threw filth like fruit peels on Guru Granth Sahib Jee. They did a so called mock ardass in front of Guru Jee while saying all sorts of bad words. They then distributed Parshad without cleaning their hands, wearing their shoes and uncovered heads. We have seen the uproar of the Panth in regards to the beadbi of the 5 sroops but why is the Panth silent on this open Beadbi? in this case we even know who is responsible for the beadbi and where they work and live yet no action is being taken against these dushts. What sad state of the Panth. This happened in Punjab which is the heartland of the Sikh Panth not in UP or Bihar!

true, but the only good reason I see moving to India is to move closer to the historical Gurdwaras. Just doing darshan of historical Gurdwaras feels like one is in heaven. Plus, I think as western Sikhs should see it as their duty to go back to India and do Parchar of Sikhi amongst the Punjabis and non Punjabis. We are a small community compared to Hindus and Muslims and in a so called democracy numbers matter. We need to increase our numbers. Parchar of Sikhi is needed the most today. I for one will want to go to India one day to do parchar.

move to india.

True. I have also heard that when a GurSikh does Simran for hours a day. Slowly as his spiritual level goes higher he starts to have spiritual experiences like remembering his past lives, nowing future events and even having darshan of avtars. Some Gursikhs get very impressed with these spiritual experiences that they get stuck and don't go higher. But the ones who try to stay unimpressed experience even higher spiritual levels.

Sikh dharm is Guru made, Vaheguru made. Ravidassia religion is man made and is also caste based. It was not created by Bhagat Ravidas Jee. The Ravidassia's who did this beadbi are disgracing the name of Bhagat Ravidas Jee by associating with him and doing such beadbi.

is there a way to delete this from wikipedia?

without any solid proof Sikhs should not jump the gun.

Samosa Singh jee, I agree with you. Although I don't blame it on women as much as our human emotion of Kaam. Kaam is a very controlling emotion into everything we do and it's not just for men but also for women. What need do women have for dressing sexy? recently for the last 15 years, one may have noticed how sexy looking Punjabi suits(Salvaar Kameez) have gotten which increasingly show the woman's bodily figure. Punjabi women like all women wear make up and do all sorts of Shingaars. These are all things women do to attract the male attention towards them. Men have also fallen into this trap of Kaam. Sikh men began to cut their hairs for the last 40 years ago but the cutting of hairs became especially prevelent for last 25 years when women began demanding "clean shaven Sikh" during their matrimonial ads in the west, but this sorry trend has also caught on in India. But in India they call clean shaven as "cut surd" which probably means Sardar who cuts his hair. This kaam driven trend caught up so well that now the keshadaris are in the minority amongst the Sikhs for the first time in Sikh history. Being clean Shaven is now the norm amongst Sikh men because that's really what the girls want. Sikh women have managed to do what the mighty Mughal and Afghan armies have not been able to do i.e. cut the hairs of the Sikh men. Kaam is extremely difficult to control for both men and women. Women have kaam for clean shaven men while Sikh men also have it for women because of which they sacrifice their Dharm and cut their hair. It's a deadly cycle in which Dharm is always sacrificed. When I was in high school I knew a guy who was interested in keeping his hair(he had it cut since birth). But his parents did not allow him to keep it, especially his mom because she told him that if you keep your hair no girl will marry you. She told him to keep it after marriage. How disgraceful our situation has become. The only time Sikhs became more observant of the faith was around 84. Today Sikhs have left Sikhi and have cut their hair, Sikh girls only want clean shaven men and are indirectly making Sikh men cut their hairs. Even many Amritdharis are not that strict. So many Amritdharis do not even do their Nitnem everyday! It seems another Sikh ghalugara is coming to remind Sikhs of their Dharam,

Samosa Singh Jee, you have really opened my eyes. I fully agree with everything you have written. This post was really in touch with reality and Gurmat. You may have written it casually but your last post has really changed my out look of this world.

Sant Jee giving Darshan is not proof of him being alive. Since he is a Shaheed Singh, maybe he gave his darshan as a Shaheed Singh. Many Shaheed Singhs give their darshan like this.

Gangs usually revolve around communities in which poverty is a problem or who are recent immigrants. Sikhs like the Indian Hindus arrived in the US a long time ago. The Sikhs had their gang related activity about 20 years ago. Now Sikhs in the uk do not have a poverty problem neither are Sikhs recent immigrants. The Pakistani Muslims have a poverty problem and they have also been arriving in the UK recently. Being a gangster community is nothing to be proud of. But Sikhs should have organized groups ready to defend the community when needed.

It's really no use. I've tried this before with pure nimrata and I was insulted for believing Sant Jee is Shaheed. Sant Jee was a pure MARD like the Singhs of olden times. He was not one who would run away. Even if we take it as a tactical retreat then why would he remain hiding while the entire Panth was burning and need his leadership for 10 years between 84 and 94? Do you guys really expect us to beleive Sant Jee would remain silent while Sikh bibis were raped? Sikh youths were killed in fake encounters? so many Singh soorme were getting butchered? This is so similar to Namdharis. They make two big claims. One is that Guru Gobind Singh Jee did not physically die at Nander and they lived for 100 years. The second big claim is that Baba Ram Singh Jee Namdhari managed to survive and still alive. They claim he will one day return and lead the Panth to Khalsa Raaj. We need to stop believing in this and come to grips with reality. Sant Jee is Shaheed. The entire Panth has come to accept this fact with the exception of Ajnala group. I respect Ajnala Taksal a lot for the work they are doing currently. They are living up to Sant Jee's character. But it is difficult to agree with them on Sant Jee's Shaheedi.

What you say is correct. The Dalkhalsa are Kala Afghanis. Though they will not admit it openly, but whenever there has been an issue of Sri Dasam Granth, they have always taken the Anti Dasam Granth side. They are pro Darshan Lal. It seems they have been planted amongst Panthic minded Sikhs to misguide them about Gurbani(from Dasam Granth) which in turn will misguide Sikhs about Sikhism altogether.

Thanks veerjee for this great seva of the Panth. Currently we need such seva in the form of books and articles written by knowledgeable Sikhs.