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  1. I too would like to see a comprehensive list could SPOW .. put up what tehy have at current if policy allows ... I 've been told of every sikh family in punjab if you took away a family member .. thats the number of disappered/locked up/murdered would like to see figures
  2. cant find the number to call in .. god dammn id rip this <banned word filter activated> apart a message for NIHAL Tell you what mate i'll happily fund you to go india and speak to saheedi singhs/singhnia's familly .. i'll happly put you in touch withsome karkoos or as you would put it "killers"... let them explain but no you wouldnt even think about stepping on heathrow ground let alone punjab ground .. i'll even go a far as garunteeing your saftey and it will still be the best and most infulental time of your life ...
  3. HUkamnamma Issued stated no chairs/tables Manmut activities ....
  4. BUMP TO THIS THREAD .. really some of the stories are fantastic .. i've been touched and i dont even know of them apart from their names .. can i ask what happened? Im sorry if that offends anyone its meant to be an inocent question
  5. true and not that am for the protests (personal view) but who ever has done this has done it on the hoof and it needs much more media attention .. people should be posting facebook messages .. text messages (still to get one about friday- which is strange) etc ... currently the only info ive heard about it has been on sikhsangat .... if only a handfull of people turn up it would be a shame waheguru sahia Bhul chuck maff
  6. Hi Would like to put them out at Gurdwara .. could you tell me who's done the translations as there are some dodgy ones out there as well plus would you say we could post abroad i have friends in spain who would love them ....
  7. These are the games being played at the expense of Bhai Blawant Singh ji, as explained to me by an elder. agreed but are we becoming unwilling participants?
  8. Bhai Sahib in my opinion would not refuse hukam from Panj Payare ... although only he could answer .. if they delay it will be a shame as i my opinion all the gov wants to do is destroy his name .. theon going explosives case and then a murder case will pop up etc etc ... delaying will be playing into their hands .. dont get me wrong there are arguments for both sides of the coin but im staying Whith Bhai Sahibs choice and will be joining in ardass on the 31st as per his wishes May the panth give birth to such soorme again and again Bhul chuck maff waheguru sahia
  9. Guys/Girls can we please please make sure everyone is aware of the up and comming case in the US against Kamal Nath ... Post it on facebook etc the hearing dates been set for the 29th March and we should as with the Bhai rajaona Situtation make the world notice and stand to attention ... CONGRESS have hired a US based firm to defend !!!! Guys we have the oppertunity for our case to be heard outside India where we know we will not get justice ... hopefully we'll get justice otherwise we'll find out on what side the fence the world is sitting on http://articles.time...nt-singh-pannun
  10. Guys/girls sorry to post out of topic but please make sure everyone is aware if the up comming case in the US against Kamal Nath ... Post ity on facebook etc the hearing dates been set for the 29th March and we should as with the Bhai rajaona Situtation make the world notice and stand to attention ... CONGRESS have hired a US based firm to defend !!!! Guys we have the oppertunity for our case to be heard outside India where we know we will not get justice ... hopefully we'll get justice otherwise we'll find out on what side the world is sitting http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-16/india/31200563_1_kamal-nath-sikh-individuals-gurpatwant-singh-pannun
  11. Guys/girls sorry to post out of topic but please make sure everyone is aware if the up comming case in the US against Kamal Nath ... Post ity on facebook etc the hearing dates been set for the 29th March and we should as with the Bhai rajaona Situtation make the world notice and stand to attention ... CONGRESS have hired a US based firm to defend !!!! Guys we have the oppertunity for our case to be heard outside India where we know we will not get justice ... hopefully we'll get justice otherwise we'll find out on what side the world is sitting http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-03-16/india/31200563_1_kamal-nath-sikh-individuals-gurpatwant-singh-pannun
  12. he was made CM Of punjab in 1992 to 1995.. he was made CM with only 5% of the votes as there were mass boycotts held ... under his reign as CM he is responsible for ordering the kidnap, torture and death of many young, male Sikhs, in order to stamp out "terrorism" in Punjab. He appointed the butcher of punjab K p S GILL... Bhai Rajaona was to be the second human bomb in case Saheed Babar Shere Bhai Dilawar Singh Failed in the initial attempt... what really makes me laugh is when ever they have arrested someone connected to Babbar Khalsa (Bhai Hawara/Bhai Rajoana and Bhai Dilawar Singhall memebers) they always find large ammounts of RDX ... bloddy hell we must have the worlds reserve in punjab ...
  13. BHai Jagtar Singh Hawara has done noting wrong on the contary this sorma was involved in the Killing of CM Beant (who by the way was elected to power by only 5% of the votes becasue of boycotts) others who were involved were Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana, Bhai Navjot Singh, Shamsher Singh, Naseer Singh, Gurmeet Singh and Lakhwinder Singh Lakha and Bibi Baljit Kaur also Saheed Babar shere Bhai Daliwar Singh who atained Saheedi whilst bring him to justice Bhai Sahib was also sentenced to death but appealed and thus had it turned into a life imprisonment sentence ... (Dont think hes a coward and scared of death jail staff are scared of these singhs they call them JINDASAHEEDS ... people who have been tourtered to an inch of teir lives but still dont give up... He feels that he would be able to do more for the panth). In 2004 he escaped from prison but was later recaptured .. it is well known that the prison in which he is kept is different .. the ardass is heard over loud speakers (acheivement of Bhai Hawara through legal channels).. pictures of chardi Kala singhs are on the walls... food is prepared by their hands ... the national anthem starts “Deh Shiva Bar Mohi ihai…”... the judge speaks with request any misbehvement is met with jakhare of KHalistan Zindabad ... more can be found if you do a google search will futher enlighten you check out the following aticle (although it makes it sound like a bareable place its not) http://www.sikhfreedom.com/burail.html
  14. HI .. Wheres it going or do you just need them stored for a while?
  15. http://www.sikhiwiki...hp/Darshan_Dham i didn't know about this could KOP Singh ... or anyone else highlight where our two brothers are being held?
  16. No Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara appealed against the courts decision of hanging and on appeal the sentence was turned over into a LIfe sentence ... (indian life sentence is life) Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara escaped from prison since carrying out his life sentence although he was later captured... they just too scared to let a singh out of the cage recently Bhai Jagtar Singh Hawara was in court and as astunt they tried to get Bhai Sahib dealt with by a dirty little PRlCK but Bhai sahib knocked him into next week These Babars are part of the team who took responsibility for the SEVA of punishing the Panths Dusht CM Beant S... (i hate it when they say Beant S ingh.. how can you call im singh).... if you just put Bhai Rajoana into google you'll get all the info
  17. From what i've been told they refused as they dont want to be ordered "in the roop of 5 Payare" to hand in a appeal against the death sentence as they would follow the HUkam of Panj Payare to the letter ... Bhul Chuk Maf
  18. Kaljugi .. Lately im loving your posts .. thank you for the smiles this week
  19. bhai ajeet singh punjabi agree with some of your points but when have the indian gov abided by law... mass murders get poltical seats... insiguaters become their great icons .... mass murderers get life and then freed ... SIkhs get picked up and killed in false encounters ... the get locked up under false cases .. fa,ilies of saheeds are terrorised... Amesty international is banned (why) ... freedom writers like Bhai Sahib Khalra go missing and nothing is done ... Sikhi is attached from evry corner ... sikh temples are desicrated ... sikhs are brainwashed through media and lit .... sikhs cannot put pictures of their leaders on cars and windows (sant jis picture was being forcefully removed....etc etc etc but yeah maybe theres a peaceful resolution where manmoahan no TYtlers gonna go ITS TH LAW THAT SIKHS CAN WHERE KIRPANS ..... ITS THE LAW I TELL YOU ITS THE LAW Bhul Chuk Maff
  20. Bhai saib .. quick question is it humane to keep a lion under lock and key??? he will not get the same treatmenat as these so call politiacl prisoners who get lif a and then are freed after 10 yrs ... his familly will not be let through without being searched .... you say that if asked bhai sahib that if he prefers shahedi in battle ground than having shaheedi hanged. I am sure he would without any hesitation say- in battle ground. yep i agree with you but maybe his battlefeild is this one .. a lawyers battlefeild is the court room ... his could have been completing the mission and giving his head for the cause to send a message TRUE SIKHS ARE NOT SCARED OF DEATH
  21. Bhai Sahib ... If you dont feel ok at home the your Bibi's house is great ... or you could come to mine if you want What I would suggest though is that there is no greater power than Bani ... Chaupai Sahib is a great bani to Recite. I would every day go home and in peace recite Chaupai Sahib ....(hamri kro hath dai rchcha. pooran hoeh chit ki eichcha. tav charnan mun rehai hmara. apna jan kro pritipara. (1)hamrai dust sabhai tum ghao. aapu hath dai moeh bachavo. sukhi basai moro privara. saivak sikh sbhai kartara.(2)) Im sure this baba will not stay long. As for your brothers anger i've always found listening to sukmani sahib helps me a great deal not saying this is the best transatlation but wikipedia translations KABIOVACH BAINTI CHAUPAI PATSHAI 10TH - PRAYER COMPOSED BY SRI GURU GOBIND SINGH JI Chaupai || Chowpai hamri kro hath dai rchcha. pooran hoeh chit ki eichcha. tav charnan mun rehai hmara. apna jan kro pritipara. (1) Please guard us with Your Hands. All my heart's desires are fulfilled. My mind is focused on Your Feet. Sustain us as Your Own.(1) hamrai dust sabhai tum ghao. aapu hath dai moeh bachavo. sukhi basai moro privara. saivak sikh sbhai kartara. (2) Destroy all my enemies*1. With Your Hands protect me. In Bliss remains my household*2, service people and Sikhs all who serve the Creator (2) mo rchcha nij kar dai kriye. sabh bairn ko aij sunghriye. pooran hoeh hmari aasa. tor bhjan ki rehai piaasa. (3) Give me your personal protection. Restrain all my adversaries, Today. You’ve Fulfilled my Wishes. My Thirst for Your Worship grows(3). tumeh chadi koei avr na dhiyaoun jo bar chon so tum tai paoon. saivk sikh hmarai tariaeh chuni chuni strhmarai mariaeh. (4) Leaving You, may I never worship another. All my needs, I get from You. You save my Sikhs & Devotees. One-by-One you demolish my foe (4) aap hath dai mujhai obriyai. mrn kal ka tras nivriaye. hoojo sda hamaraipchcha. sri asidhuj joo kriyo rchcha. (5) With your Hand guard me. destroy my fear of death. Always side with me. With your Sword protect me. (5) rakh laiho mohe rakhanharai. sahib sant shaeh piyarai. deen bundhu dustan kai hunta. tum ho puri chtur dus kunta. (6) Save me, Dear Saviour. Beloved, Helper of Saints.O Merciful, Destroyer of tyrants. You are Lord of fourteen worlds (6) kal paeh brhma bup dhra. kal paeh siv joo avtra. kal paeh kr bisnu prkasa. skl kal ka kia tmasa. (7) Time came, Brahma was born, then Shiva was incarnated and then Visnu, Arose. It’s all Tricks of the Temporal Lord. (7) jvan kal jogi siv kio. baid raj brahma joo thio. jvn kal sabh lok svara. nmskar hai taeh hmara. (8) Temporal Lord created Yogi Shiva; Brahma, the Utterer of Vedas. Temporal Lord, fashioned the entire Universe. I salute Him alone. (8) jvan kal sabh jagat bnaio. dev daint jchchan oopjaio. adi aunti aikai avtara. soei guru smjhiayho hmara (9) Creator of Time made the Universe; the angels, demons and yakshas. Start & End only with Him. He alone is My Guru. (9) nmskar tis hi ko hamari. skal prja jin aap svari. sivkn ko siv gun sukh dio. sttrun ko pul mo bdh kio. (10) I bow only to Him. Creator of all entities & subjects. Gives all merits & tranquillity to His devotees. Destroys enemies at once. (10) ghat ghat kai antar ki jant. bhlai burai ki pir pachant. chiti tai kunchr asthoola. sabh par kirpa diristi kar phoola. (11) Intimate Knower of all our feelings. Recognises the anguish of all creatures, good or bad. From ant to elephant, He protects and cares for all.(11) suntun dukh paai tai dukhi sukh paai sadhun kai sukhi aik aik ki pir pchanain ghat ghat kai put put ki janai. (12) When His saints suffer He is pained, and feels happiness when they are happy. Each ones pain he recognises. Everyone’s, every feeling He Knows. (12) jub oodkrkh kra kartara. prja dhrt tab dai apara. jub aakrkh kart ho kabhoon. tum mai milat dai dhr sbhhoon (13) When the Creator, projected Himself, His creations appeared in physical forms. Whenever, Creation is dissolved, all physical forms merge back into Him. (13) jaitai bdan sirsti sbh dharai. aap aapni boojh oocharai. tum sabh hi tai reht niralm. jant baid bhaid ar aalm. (14) created numerous forms and bodies. They utter Him as they can think, what He is. You remain detached from them all. This distinction the wise ones and the religious books know. (14) nirankar niribkar nirmunbh. adi anil anadi asunbh. ta ka moorh oochrut bhida. ja ko bhiv na pavat baida. (15) Formless, Stainless and Self-reliant. Primal, Blemish-less, Endless and birth-less. Only a Fool can discuss your bound. Your Limits even the Vedas do not know. (15) ta ko kar pahn anumant maha moorh kcho bhaid na jant mahadaiv ko keht sda siv nirankar ka chint neh bhiv. (16) The fools consider Him a stone, for He does not know the Profound Mystery that is God. He calls Shiva, The Eternal Lord, and does not know the secret of the Formless Lord. (16) aap aapni budhi hai jaiti barnt bhinun bhinun taiti tumra lkha na jaeh psara keh bidhi prthm sunsara. (17) Every one according to his understanding, describes You differently. The limits of Your creation cannot be known, nor how in the beginning You created the Universes. (17) aikai roop anoop sroopa runk bhyo rav kehi bhoopa audj jairj saitj kini ootbhuj khani bhor rchi deeni (18) You are One, manifest in varied forms, as a poor man, rich manor, a king. You create being that are egg born, the sweat born, earth born and the foetus born. (18) kahoon phool raja hvai baitha kahoon simit bhio sunkr aikaitha sgri sirsti dikhaeh achunbhv adi jugadi sroop suyunbhv. (19) Sometime You are perceived sitting joyfully as a king, and some time in the form of contracting and dissolving Shiva. He shows His miraculous deeds to all His creation of the Universe. He, the Primal Power, born of Himself is since the beginning of beginning. (19) ab rchcha mairi tum kro sikh oobari asikh soghro dust jitai oothvat ootpata skal mlaich kro run ghata. (20) O Lord, now keep me under Your protection, encourage my followers to flourish [in intellect and wisdom] and destroy my enemies (negative thinking). All the evil doers who arise (in my mind), fight with them and destroy them there and then. (20) jai asidhuj tav sarni parai tin kai dusht dukhit hvai mrai purkh jvan pug parai tiharai tin kai tum sunkt sabh tarai. (21) O Mighty Lord of the Sword (Knowledge)+, whosoever seeks Your protection, his enemies (evil passions) suffer pain and are destroyed. The persons, who fall on Your Feet, You remove all their afflictions and maladies. (21) jo kal ko eik bar dhiaai hai ta kai kal nikti neh aai hai rchcha hoeh taeh sabh kala dust arist train tatkala. (22) Those who meditate even once (with complete devotion) on You, the Supreme Destroyer, the Death cannot come near them. They remain protected at all times. All their enemies and sorrows are removed instantaneously. (22) kirpa diristi tun jaeh nihriho. ta kai tap tnak mo herho. ridhdhi sidhdhi ghar mo sabh hoei. dust chah chvai skai na koei. (23) With your blessing & compassion, Bliss is obtained. All their Sins are removed. They are blessed with all the earthly and spiritual treasures, and no evil doer [deadly passions and sickly instinctual drives] can even touch their shadows. (23) aik bar jin tumai sunbhara. kal phas tai taeh oobara. jin nar nam tiharo kaha. darid dust dokh tai raha. (24) If once they remember You. You remove the noose of Death. Whosoever meditates on Your Name. They are spared Poverty, suffering and adversity. (24) kharag kait mai sarni tehari. aap hath dai laio oobari. sarb thor mo hohu sahaei. dust dokh tai laiho bchaei. (25) O The Lord of Sword, I seek Your protection. With Your Hands you have guarded me. At All Times be my Support. Save me from wickedness and pain. (25) kripaa kari ham par jagmaataa. granth karaa pooran subh raataa. kilbhik sakal deh ko karta. dust dokiyon ko che karta. (26) The Mother of the world has been kind towards me and I have completed the book this auspicious night. The Lord is the destroyer of all the sins of the body and all the malicious and wicked persons.(26). sri asidhuj jab bh-ay dayaalaa. pooran karaa granth tatkaalaa. man baanchhat phal paavai soee. dookh na tisai biaapat koee. (27) When the wielder of the sword (God) became kind, He immediately caused me to complete this book. He will obtain the fruit desired by the mind (who will read or listen to this book) and no suffering will occur to him. (27) ਅੜਿੱਲ ॥ ARRIL ਸੁਨੈ ਗੁੰਗ ਜੋ ਯਾਹਿ ਸੁ ਰਸਨਾ ਪਾਵਈ ॥ ਸੁਨੈ ਮੂੜ੍ਹ ਚਿਤ ਲਾਇ ਚਤੁਰਤਾ ਆਵਈ ॥ The dumb, who will listen to it, will be blessed with the tongue to speak; the fool, who will listen to it attentively, will get wisdom; ਦੂਖ ਦਰਦ ਭੌ ਨਿਕਟ ਨ ਤਿਨ ਨਰ ਕੇ ਰਹੈ ॥ ਹੋ ਜੋ ਯਾਕੀ ਏਕ ਬਾਰ ਚੌਪਈ ਕੋ ਕਹੈ ॥੪੦੪॥ That person will be absolved of suffering, pain or fear, who will even once recite this Chaupai-prayer.404. ਚੌਪਈ ॥ CHAUPAI ਸੰਬਤ ਸੱਤ੍ਰਹ ਸਹਸ ਭਣਿੱਜੈ ॥ ਅਰਧ ਸਹਸ ਫੁਨਿ ਤੀਨਿ ਕਹਿੱਜੈ ॥ It was Bikrami Samvat 1753; ਭਾਦ੍ਰਵ ਸੁਦੀ ਅਸ਼ਟਮੀ ਰਵਿ ਵਾਰਾ ॥ ਤੀਰ ਸਤੁੱਦ੍ਰਵ ਗ੍ਰੰਥ ਸੁਧਾਰਾ ॥੪੦੫॥ This book was competed on the banks of Sutlej on Sunday, the eighth Sudi of the month of Bhadon. ਸ੍ਵੈਯਾ ॥ SWAYYA ਪਾਂਇ ਗਹੇ ਜਬ ਤੇ ਤੁਮਰੇ ਤਬ ਤੇ ਕੋਊ ਆਂਖ ਤਰੇ ਨਹੀ ਆਨਯੋ ॥ ਰਾਮ ਰਹੀਮ ਪੁਰਾਨ ਕੁਰਾਨ ਅਨੇਕ ਕਹੈਂ ਮਤ ਏਕ ਨ ਮਾਨਯੋ ॥ O God ! the day when I caught hold of your feet, I do not bring anyone else under my sight; none other is liked by me now; the Puranas and the Quran try to know Thee by the names of Ram and Rahim and talk about you through several stories, but I do not accept any of their opinions; ਸਿੰਮ੍ਰਿਤਿ ਸਾਸਤ੍ਰ ਬੇਦ ਸਭੈ ਬਹੁ ਭੇਦ ਕਹੈ ਹਮ ਏਕ ਨ ਜਾਨਯੋ ॥ ਸ੍ਰੀ ਅਸਿਪਾਨ ਕ੍ਰਿਪਾ ਤੁਮਰੀ ਕਰਿ ਮੈ ਨ ਕਹਯੋ ਸਭ ਤੋਹਿ ਬਖਾਨਯੋ ॥੮੬੩॥ The Simritis, Shastras and Vedas describe several mysteries of yours, but I do not agree with any of them. O sword-wielder God! This all has been described by Thy Grace, what power can I have to write all this?.863. ਦੋਹਰਾ ॥ DOHRA ਸਗਲ ਦੁਆਰ ਕਉ ਛਾਡਿ ਕੈ ਗਹਯੋ ਤੁਹਾਰੋ ਦੁਆਰ ॥ ਬਾਂਹਿ ਗਹੇ ਕੀ ਲਾਜ ਅਸਿ ਗੋਬਿੰਦ ਦਾਸ ਤੁਹਾਰ ॥੮੬੪॥ O Lord ! I have forsaken all other doors and have caught hold of only Thy door. O Lord ! Thou has caught hold of my arm; I, Govind, am Thy serf, kindly take (care of me and) protect my honour.864 I 'm sorry if ive miss spoken or said something wrong .. these are my views BHul chuk Maff
  22. quick question .. we see he's inside (handcuffed) but can you tell if any of the family are sad ... they all know about the sentence ... Bhai J Looks well aswell - nice to see ... personally i think we need to support the familys .. petition happen ... makes an effect/ dosnt make an effect ... But then we forget the family
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