BA51NGH

i just read somewhere that they have no hangmen in punjab .. pataila jail have refused to hang him aswell (seen on various threads) to me this is the work of the gov who dont want the name of Bhai Balwant Singh JI Rajoana to become amar ... i agree with both sides of the coin but the bottom line its his choice, and not giving it to him his making his and his family sacrifice seem insignificant ... what will happen if hes not hanged ... life immprisonment (which actually means life not 10 -15 (as this is alrady been spent) unless of course you have some political infulence and that could mean 10 months - but back to topic) if he is not hanged and is locked u for the rest of his life - he's treated badly by officails tey do god knows what ... his family are treated humainly when visiting him OUT OF CURIOSITY HOW MANY PETITIONS WERE HAPPENING BEFORE THE HANG DATE WAS SET !!!!! - what were we not aware of the situation or was it we wit till he puts a noose around his neck and then we'll sign petitions ... Guys its great to see that we want to fight for a fellow SIkh but he himself didn't want to appeal ... he himself has requested the death penalty to be carried out asap ... and all these delaying tactics have again divided us maybe the petitions should be in a different manner - may be they should highlight that the only people to be hanged in the last .... many yrs have been sikh may be they should higlight that massmurders with life prision terms have been let out may bethey should highlight that in the so called "worlds largest democracy" sikhs are treated as 2 nd class citizens May be they should highlight that there is one law for Sikhs and one for hindus and even another for politians but a petition to save the life of a singh that openly wants to atain saheedi for the kaum ... im sorry it dosnt have my support N30S1NGH, on 15 March 2012 - 06:42 PM, said: So while both opinion of sangat are right and fully aligned with sant and sipahi context of sikhi. We should be all (for shaheedi or for saving human life), ___ ___sign the petition against saving him from hanged until death. BHAI N30SINGH .. I agree with your views but to confirm did you mean the last sentence as it could be misinterperated the other way if not read carefully Bhul chuck maff Waheguru sahia May Guru JI Bless us all - Sarbat Sangat Da Palla

LOL thanks made me smile

i urge people to read this My heart is with you guys hat wanna stop his hanging yep its wrong but my support is with OUR brother and family http://www.sikh24.com/2012/03/india-calls-him-murderer-he-gives-life/

as posted else where please i urge you to read ... my heart is with you but my support is with OUR brother and family http://www.sikh24.com/2012/03/india-calls-him-murderer-he-gives-life/

i want people to read this so reposting ... to all those that want to stop fansi my heart is with you but my support is with our brother and his family http://www.sikh24.com/2012/03/india-calls-him-murderer-he-gives-life/

LOAD OF BULL

Not a Bad idea Southall Youth But what is the issue (a) a sikh is being hanged as per his wishes (b) a sikh as requesed for his righs for so long and that justice is finally been given - Bhai Balwant Singh JI Rajoana didnt request bail he infact requested the death pentealty to given sooner than later © A sikh is being hanged as his choice for doing a panthic seva but the panth cannot stand by HIS choice (d) A sikh is being hanged and we dont like it i know its a shame but as i previously mentioned it is this panthic Jajaroos choice and he's showing that hes not scared of death like Sukha and Jhinda ... in fact he egarly awaiting the time when he mergers with akal purkh ... why are we hell bent on protraying that gaining saheedi is wrong it shows that he feels that you do a wrong deed towards the nation and you will be punished by death But never the less its a good point .. its a great fourm with the largest gathering of sikhs ... to raise the issues concerning the KAUM - Lets raise the roof - Why not list some issues - we could prin leaflats and raise awareness of SPOW Culture vs religion Parchar Daswand Bhul Chuck Maff Waheguru sahia

Im confused ratehr than accepting the will of a panthic singh we find faults ... we speculate and we want to hinder his wishes ... i understand that its a sad thing but truthfully its his choice he knows if he isnt hanged he spends the rest of his life behind bars he's egar to meet with akal purkh and hes travelled a hard path. He wants to give his eyes to those that need it he willing to give his bdy to who,m ever is in need of an ung out of all those above who have beome critics and speculators how many would have followed the same path and done the same great deed as Bhai Balwant Singh Rajoana So we slander badal for being anti pantic we then become critics when hes seen with someone pantic .... those that say we shuld hold demo etc would you be happy if badal was part of this ask his family im sure they know his wishes GOd bless our panth ... as we cant even support the wishes of our panthic heros. Parnam saheedan nu Parnam Juarran nu God bless his family and my he meet with akal purkh ... if not may he be borninto a sikh house hold and continuee the fight for feedom and justice bhul chuk maff

To papi dass... not having a go but underthe badal sarkar there are many many reports with singhs and singhnia being targeted .. Gurmukhs going missing and being taken out ... its just not as widly published as the 84 masacares Badal sarkar has prommised so much and deliverd 0 however id rather the devil i know which is badal - he keeps farmers on side with positive policies on land etc. He keeps mid panthic peps hands tied due to the sgpc control etc etc Howeevr id ratehr have him than congress .. i know that sounds anti pantic and against the reasoning above but the fact is punjab is a currpot politians playing field ... even saying this the people in pujab mus have some sence in who their voting for... its like someone in afganistan saying vote for BNP in the UK elections .. guys if your not there give a little bit of redibility to those that are

we see dogs and jackals everywhere but only lions are locked up in cages ... im ay use this lion later on i life

Its a shame to see that of the 160 odd people that have viewed this thread weve only raised 450 odd £ which is just under 11% of what is needed ... i hope non of us are ever in the position to ask the 160 odd "SIKHS" to help us one day as only 10% of them will .... shows what we really stand for ... bhul chuk maff

LOL .. thanks all you brought a smile to my face today .. Appreciate it .. seriously though has anyone noticed the birds that sit and listen to paath at Harminder Sahib ... they sit/fly around next to the speakers which are so loud ... also seen dogs etc in india that sit and listen and wait for langer .. even us "evolved" humans dont do that sometimes we go gurdwara do matha tek and g bruv got a quickmission to do see you soon yeah ... were always too busy !!! sorry for the generalisaton bhul chuck maff

KhalistaniGunMan ... agree to sum extent but filling their houses with firepower isn't that giving these people more cause for concern ... ie now the guy normally goes about his daily life next thing you know hes tooling up and fortifiying ... isnt that just confirming (giving them a reason) to think yep we've got one ... think the best thing is to contact the police explain the situation and the tool up .... ANd yep americans ive noticed r out of the loop but so are the british i had a lady on the weekend ask me why i keep my beard ... i told her and we got into this cnvo and then i realsied she thinks im MUSLIM .. had to explain it to her .. found out her curiosity (thats all it was this time thankfully) was down to her watching the hanel 4 program ... make bradford british ... i wonder when theres gonna be a program call make Luton Islamic - oh sorry bristish Bhul chuk Maff

From recall think he tried to do a speach at miri piri gurdwara in southall last time .. can we confirm if hes gonna be there again

LOL .. sorry But this justr made me laugh .. could see myself and the rest walking up to the gurdwara in full kit... could just see the brides side shell shocked... what the hell they coming to get married or Kill us and do kubja anyway is it true that the proper way for lavan to be taken is standing up and not sitting down????

Hi ... to gain stats look into african countries where human right volations are generally reported ... (we dont hear much about them happening in the west, so developing countries is where you need start looking) plus looking into ethnic minorites cleansing - nigeria etc will help form a comparison. ie if one is against the UN ruling on Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide' then the other will stand up ... in principle not sure however if its a good idea to be questioning your title - riots. You maybe spreading yourself thinly ... in debateing two things .. dont get them confused may be ask your tutor (who's marking) for steer. Say you personally feel its genocide (if tis is the case) but its labeled as Anti sikh riots. or is it that in the beginig your going to say something along the lines that it has been labeled as anti sikh riots and give supporting evidence to why its actually sikh genocide - but again get steer fromm your tutor - he/shes marking. Look into the latest cases - US court summons Congress for Sikh 'genocide' in 1984- http://articles.economictimes.indiatimes.com/2011-03-03/news/28650670_1_gurpatwant-singh-pannun-anti-sikh-riots-sfj wiki pedia (i know) India In the 1970s, during the Indian Emergency, thousands of Sikhs campaigning for autonomous government were imprisoned.[306] In 1984, during an Indian Army assault called Operation Bluestar, thousands of innocent Sikhs were killed in the Golden Temple and the Sikh Reference Library was burned.[306] After the October 1984 Assassination of Indira Gandhi, thousands of Sikhs were killed in the 1984 Anti-Sikh Riots by Indian National Congress mobs [306] The 1984 Anti-Sikh riots have been identified as a genocide because of the mobs' targeting behavior.[307]---- [307]^ Jones, Adam (2010-10-26). Genocide: A Comprehensive Introduction. Taylor & Francis. pp. 468–. ISBN 9780415486187. http://books.google.com/books?id=BqdVudSuTRIC&pg=PA468. Retrieved 21 February 2011. looking into the UN resolution a bit i noticed Article 2 of the Convention defines genocide as ...any of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such: (a) Killing members of the group; (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group; © Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part; (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group; (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. — Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[3] Article 3 defines the crimes that can be punished under the convention: (a) Genocide; (b) Conspiracy to commit genocide; © Direct and public incitement to commit genocide; (d) Attempt to commit genocide; (e) Complicity in genocide. i could find supporting evidence for all the above punishable crimes bu a good lawyer will understand and predict the other sides argument sorry if no help just my 1p worth

Guys the proble is could you agree onn the colour of <banned word filter activated> - no one will say brown the otehr yellow another goldy .. once theres a divide its hard for it to be over looked .... i like the idea!!! but is it workable ... my opinion no - Having one big jatha bandi is the same thing having small - what makes them powerful is people - people listened to the misls back then they dont care what is said today from the akal thakat ... we on here generally agree that langer should be eaten on the floor in the gurugar but i could list you of a 100+ that still have chairs etc the simple point is we cant agree - if i say im gonna punish arminder for visiting the dera <banned word filter activated> the badals on my side ahowever if im gonna punish badal - badal will go make his own group . Im afraid to say most SIKHS look out for number one .... People will simply question what gives him the right to punish me ... if were saying democracy - lagest family with greatset support will win not the person who should be ....

Im sorry genie but myhumble opinion is that there is a lot of pachar ... as a sikh its not up to tom <banned word filter activated> and harry to teach ,people its up to you aswell so if you think theres not enough parchar ... get up and do something about it .... i have watched various vid's and ben to various smagams and am always shocked at the number in which sangat attends ... true we need more pachar but it dosnt help when gov agencies have built up policies to dicredit and keep us back as a nation

where abouts is it and what type .. business (what type)/ Farm land how much / Home ... sq footage ... may know a few legite guys but as singh 559 said .... best to go and make sure your not getting scamed (tooo many) plus good points raised ... dont you wanna have ties back home? what about renting .. again be careful ... we give it to my family to look after ... if we ever want to sell then we know its ours to sell ... kabja these days is going on all over the shot people go away and come back in 2-3 yrs time and theres someone in their yard!! its been sold to them you have to be careful pm me a few details

I spoke to some one from punjab recently .. they go sab chor .. its not even a question of whos going to do less chori its a question of who they gonna do chori rom ... Badal does it from his own .. Congress does it from us .. PPP will do it ... SAD A will do it Panch pardani will do it ... question i pose is this which evil would you associate yourselves with???? a side thats going to win and make a dent or a side that will loose and make no difference ... Badal is no better than congress - congress may have attacked us 25 yrs ago and the wounds are still raw and rightly so but Badal is no differnt under his regieme how many sikhs have disappeared ... SAD A ... sorry to say S mann is a great guy but not a political person ... he dosnt look when he speaks a political person needs the forsight knowledge ... great guy ... but couldn win .. panch pardani ... well bittu had my support due to the khalistani agenda but recently dont know about him aswell too many stories not enough evidence.... Problem is he aint gonna win and if by some miracle we did then we couldnt sustain khalsitain now ....PPP - atheists ... and feel hes a puppet of either Congress or more likley badal ... people dont want to vote for congress and dont want to vote for badal will vote for PPP ... Kaljug Singhs/Singni's .. time to do path .. kirth karo namm jappo waheguru sahhi

truth is we all know the 'mona' taxi drivers were highered muscle... great news singhs and singhni's stood up ... next time as mentioned please take a camera a picture is worth a thousand words and a movie well thats priceless... shame this is what things come down to..

Bhai Ji Come on ... what are we sayng her becasue tehy align themselves with certain people they support everything they do have done and will do? thats like saying Sant samaj have supported all the crimes badal and Bjp have committed in the last however many yrs They have aligned themselves with congress because they feel thats he bette evil and the best way to over come punjabs problems saying that he is a creation of congress itself is a much bigger insult and taking away a great deal of respect. Why if hes their creation has he been stuck inside a cell for so long? dont tell me his so called masters couldnt get hm out if he was one of their own ... personally i think hes doing what HE thinks is right for the panth and he has the right to do so but saying hes a creation of congress is a very big insult ... without the proof its like e saying badal is creation of the british gov or PPP is a creation of Badal etc btw this time around my thoughts are Badal - because of Sant samaj votes and a union with a miniority could even be PPP Congress SAD A PPP Independent Bhul Cuck maf

GPS could you provide support to a very serious Accusation .... From my research and understanding ... however very ltd he is not

my two cents - would he really call Sant Ji as SANT Jarnail Singh or just Jarnail Singh ?

Cultural .. not really anything to do with religion and we celebrated both .. girls just been born in our family and a bigger fuss has been made when the boys were born ... the Question is why people still see girls in a neg view .... equal rights have been given people still need to be educated ..