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we need to go back to our roots and encourage grihast jeevan, the lifestyle Guru Nanak told us to go. All this dating girlfriend-boyfriend trash coupled with marrying late 20s and 30+ is pushing us over the edge and lack of control of 5 vikaars eg kaam krodh lobh moh hunkaar etc

No other panthic jathebandis are also keertani jathas. So I am only tallking in the context of keertani and hazoori jathas. I think the name is very confusing...

I don't understand, why do they call themselves as a keertani jatha but act like a big jathebandi organisation? What if all the other hazoori jathas or keertani jathas acted like this and had a big group membership? It's better when keertani jathas just have 3 - 10 members. How on Earth can a keertan jatha have a "jathedaar"? so ridiculous!

it's not, try this one

it's to do with suraj ie the Sun. We don't worship surya devta, but it can still be represented as a face.

Remember that you are carrying shastar as well. Shastar as also used to kill during war. If it comes to proper rehat, then also look at how Hajoor Sahib keeps rehat with shastar. Also when it coems to rehit, do not look at any jathebandis, only true khalsa forces/fauja

maybe if you call it sikhi instead, we should not be promoting the term sikhism which is a colonial definition. We should use the proper term as sikhi.

and also, as your next post alludes to, naamdharis also take khanday dee pahul, and actually most of them do compared to "us" mainstream sikhs. naamdharis are also much closer to rehit than some of these jathabandis we have now corrupt the panth since colonial times. However naamdharis are missing the kshatriya rehit of khalsa, ie the warrior maryada. I think a lot of "sikh" children would easily get influenced by christian schools due to lack of sikhi knowledge, and this includes those who go to these schools in India as well Yes, Khalsa sikhs used to learn from other sikh sampradaiye as well when it came to spiritual gyaan and sikhi knowledge. Obviously for learning there are no strict rules, however other rules are different for khalsa sikhs as they need to follow the military rules as well compared to sehajdhari "civilian" sikhs. And this is funny, but would learning from a harmonium teacher harm your sikhi, as it takes you away from learning sikh/Gurus' instruments? I would find it harmful for someone to teach that crazy keertan which plays at many rehnsbhais, ??

I'm interested as well!

Just checked out Ramgharia gurdwara Slough and went to a Raag Keertan session. so they definitely do classes there on Sundays at 12pm.

I think you should try Southall Singh Sabha, unsure if Havelock or Park Avenue gurdwara does it. I am sure Ramgharia Southall does Raj Academy raag classes on weekends as I read it on raj academy website. I think Slough Ramgharia gurdwara does it as well. Please find out more and post information as I really want to start raag classes as well, it is shocking the lack of raag keertan played even in the main gurdwaras! lol Raag insturments at Guru Maneyo Granth? You must be joking. I think most of their keertan is not even close to raag, and all I seen them play is harmonium. I think some keertan jathas that play there play normal keertan like other gurdwaras.

you should follow grihast dharam

yes the Kenya sikh women always had a bad rep when they came UK, they were known for cutting their hair when indian sikh women were still not at the time! Also I used to see a lot more east africa sikh girls showing their lattan in pics like a decade ago than british indian sikh girls. Times have changes in even a decade, the british indian sikh girls have also started doing the same things the kenya aunties and their daughters were known for. oh dear everyones' intelligence has departed due to glassy. What Guru Nanak says in bani is true!!!

Yes I don't understand, if they are talking about sikhi then why is not possible for them to dress in a respectful manner? What kind of sikh becomes so much of a sheep that they need to follow a society and have to reveal their legs just because everyone else needs to? And yet the men don't need to reveal their legs, so where's the equality? Women still falling in sheep mentality yet thinking they are equal, yet being exploited. I still want to find out how LGBTQA+ sikhs deal with the 5 vikaar, the panj chor. I would love them to do a topic about this.... probably the drunk ones, especially where both the husband and wife are drunks.

did BBC asian network mention it?

absolutely!!! I also saw one jathebandi and it's founder were keen on using the new colonial khanda symbol and wearing on their turbans as well, that jathebandi is well known for doing rehnsbai

move into Canada, don't go to USA the healthcare there is extortion!

yes!

lol that was a wrestling entertainment promo like Indian version of WWE

probably earlier on in british raaj?

alot of milk donated to uk gurdwaras is from non-organic gurdwaras, where the cows are more or less abused. Unsure about ghee, probably the same?

no it's actually about teaching children sanskar, and they continue the behaviour to adulthood!

If you cannot reach a gurdwara, you can instead do ardaas to shastar as well. Remember as a Singh, shastar is also our pir and we do matha tek to shashatr.

how is it bujjar kurahit? THIS, please read this bani!