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  1. First question. Is non-Gurbani music against Rehit of being Sikh? Second. What is the ‘proof’ from a Sikhi perspective of this? I personally think listening to most music outside of Gurbani or Dharmic non-Gurbani does more harm than good. Obviously some music is ‘worse’ than others with damage/influence to the Psyche and influence on our thoughts and behaviour But, if I was to explain this from Sikhi perspective to someone challenging me (Sikh or non-Sikh) how would I summarise it?
  2. I have mainly two genres. What about fav song or currently you enjoy listening to?
  3. I just wanted to make my first post here because this has been playing on my mind for a while now. I feel like Sikhi Kirtan does not have the same passion I hear from other religious musical pieces, and as a result its not inspiring young people. I feel like the popular Kirtans are easy, dull, follows Bollywood/punjabi tunes and therefore lacks originality/identity/spiritualism. I have been listening to Islamic sufi music, Christian hymns and Hindu Kirtans - which I find all sound different and beautiful in their own way. With Sufi music drawing me in the most - even Bollywood adaptations like 'Kun Faya Kun' sound beautiful. With young people, I don't expect Kirtan to modernise, it doesn't need to. Indian Classical Music is and will always remain timeless, if played with passion, dedication and training, then you can draw in anyone no matter where you live. This is why Ravi Shankar and Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan broke internal barriers. Unfortunately most of the kirtan tunes these days sound like outdated Indian/punjabi pop music It doesn't help that only Sikhs can play kirtans in many Gurdwaras around the world. Collaboration inspires creativity - isn't that was sikhism was about? Openness to all? Here is a kirtan I think is nicely composed - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHJtedXR5v4
  4. Any Sikh A cappella fans!? Check out this group from UBC Vancouver. Young Sikh representation with an AMAZING solo performance!! The YouTube video is linked below. Feel free to share and also check out Instagram. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH5b4hllf4A Instagram: @ubcnwc
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    is music bad for sikhs

    1. is listening to music bad for sikhs? i understand simran and kirtan is good but what if we want to be in a more aggressive mood like how theres Nihang Misl songs with rap beats in the back. at the end of the day they are only praising Gods glory rite? 2. is it wrong to produce instrumental rap beats using softwares on my computer? it seems like a nice hobby and pastime to create music instrumentals. or to upload them on YouTube and people actually turn it into a living as well by selling them online or getting artists to send them audio digitally etc. as Sikhs, we can turn this negative hip hop into something positive, let me know your thoughts on this sadh sangat jio. (im Amritdhari 16-years old) bhul chuk maaf karni vjjk vjkf
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    Thoughts on Fateh Doe?

    Wjkk wjkf! I have lately almost entirely stopped listening to songs since I started to put efforts into my Sikhi (last 8-10 months). I feel like there is not much music these days apart from the ones talking about girls/guys/drugs etc. Never felt like I'm missing anything. (If anybody knows of any sensible music, feel free to suggest ? ) After a long time, today I came across this new video by Fateh Doe, and I thought to myself I'll give it a watch it's been a long time, let's see what it's about. And there I saw a bunch of people dancing wearing dumalle and the lyrics were again about sex (thankfully no visual nudity). I got creeped out instantly. What do other people think about his music? (Or as a matter of fact, what do people think about a dumalla-wearing Sikh making songs involving kaam?) Wjkk, wjkf!
  7. How do you view listening to pop music?
  8. As advertised on FB by Sikh Discover Inspire Talk 9 at Khalili lecture Hall london EC1H 0XG on 9th sep 2018 at 17:00 , tickets 5 GBP: Musician and PhD researcher, Kirit Singh, delves into the story of music at the court of Maharaja Ranjit Singh with a talk and unique performance reflecting some of the music associated with the Court of Lahore in collaboration with the dhrupad vocalist, Shri Prassanna Vishwanathan. This illustrated talk and musical performance will be followed by a Q&A session. Kirit Singh is a PhD student at SOAS university where he is undertaking research on the development and interaction between Hindustani music and the Gurbani Kirtan tradition, during the historical period in which Sikh patronage of the arts was at its greatest. He is also a musician and disciple of one of the leading torchbearers of dhrupad vocal music, Pt. Uday Bhawalkar. As a co-founder of the South Asian Music Forum, he is activeley involved in supporting young and talented UK-based musicians and encouraging intimate and authentic concerts of South Asian music. This lecture series has been organised by the UK Punjab Heritage Association (UKPHA) in partnership with the SOAS South Asia Institute (SSAI) . Image: Detail from a painting by August Schoefft of Maharaja Ranjit Singh at Amritsar listening to Gurbani Kirtan, circa 1841-43 (Princess Bamba Collection, Lahore Fort)
  9. Talk eight as advertised on Sikh Discover Inspire taking place at Khalili Lecture Hall london EC1H 0XG , Sunday 9th Sept 2018 at 15:00 , ticket 5GBP: The series continues with our eighth talk, in which historian and ethnomusicologist, Radha Kapuria, establishes how Punjab emerged as a major centre for classical music patronage under Maharaja Ranjit Singh, revealing the particular centrality of sword-yielding, cross-dressing female dancers in his diplomatic negotiations with political rivals. This illustrated talk will be followed by a Q&A session. Radha Kapuria trained as a historian at the University of Delhi before joining the Jawaharlal Nehru University for her MPhil degree. Her research investigated the oldest classical music festival of north India- the Harballabh of Jalandhar, Punjab. She built on this ‘micro-history’ by researching a more macro-level social history of music in the region during the nineteenth and early twentieth centuries for her PhD at King’s College London. She currently divides her time between preparing a book manuscript titled Music in Colonial Punjab: A Social History, based on her PhD, and working as part-time Lecturer in Ethnomusicology at King’s. This lecture series has been organised by the UK Punjab Heritage Association (UKPHA) in partnership with the SOAS South Asia Institute (SSAI). Image: Dancing girls and musicians at the Court of Lahore, by Bishan Singh, 1874 (Collection of Prince and Princess Sadruddin Aga Khan)
  10. In this recent decade, Panjabi music has hit a peak. I remember when I was 10 , my favorite singer was Jazzy B and his 2005 Romeo CD was a hit . He's still good but the young cats have taken over from Jazzy B , Dr Zeus , Sukhshinder Shinda , Babbu Mann , Gippy Grewal , Gurdas Mann and others. Todays biggest artist are Diljeet Dosanjh , Sidhu Moosewala , Sherry Mann , Mankirt Aulakh , Parmash Verma , Jassi Gill , Guru Randahawa , Ammy Virk , Zora Randhawa , Jasmine Sandlas , Hardy Sandhu & many others . Many of these guys average 40-50 million views each and some songs can reach 100-200 million views like US artists . This is great news as we Sikhs have made Panjabi famous , Sikhs carry Panjabi when hindoos and mullahs abandoned it and now it's GLOBAL . Now Panjabi is spreading all through out India and will NEVER die .
  11. Please watch the video before you read my response: MY RESPONSE: Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh! As someone who actually supports the concept of an independent state run on Sikh values (Khalistan), I don’t think that songs like this do anything for positive the movement. We need less gang bang hood type of music videos, and we need actual change in terms of drug addiction, female infanticide, low birth rates, lack of education, etc, all of which will actually help the Sikh community, rather than a music video in which we are waving around guns and talking about assassinating people. They put videos of Baba Jarnail Singh Bhindranwale, but don’t realize that whenever people came to him asking to join the movement, the first thing he said was to pick up a Gutka before the Gun, because the real power of Sikhi comes from Bani. Baba Bhindranwale also never boasted or showed off, and and neither did he all of a sudden start demanding a separate state, but he primarily focused on major issues in the panth, and used violence as a last resort. Our community has a habit of ignoring the important humanitarian and intellectual work of sevadaars and mainly focusing on the action part. People always talk about Baba Deep Singh as a physical warrior, but forget how he had an entire life of studying Bani that led up to his legendary Shaheedi. We all like to talk about Khalistan, yet forget the main issues affecting the panth like drug addiction, farmer debt, suicide, casteism, sexism, lack of education, low birthrates, etc. The Panth doesn't have the infrastructure to build or support another country, and before we start boasting about end goals, we should at least primarily focus on our main issues. A common response that I get is that this is just a music video, and that it at least does a good job of reminding people about important issues, however I would argue that there are better ways of talking about the issue of Sikh independence without waving around weapons and acting like a gang. The last thing the Panth, and the Khalsitani movement needs right now is even more bad publicity, and videos like this only reinforce the common held belief that the main advocates of Khalistan were from the west. PS: At least they didn’t put a communist flag in this video, it was a decent song tho. TL;DR: Can we focus more on Bani and less on wearing Kaali ? Thanks! Question for the Sangat: What do you guys think of this video?
  12. Punjabi Music and Movie Industry is one of the biggest in India. Is it driven by motivation to distract and de-moralise Punjabi Sikhs similar to what is happening in Europe and North America?
  13. Daas is looking for a good quality set of headphones that can easily fit over a dumala. I don't want the ones that you plug into ears but the ones that go over head. Any suggestions.
  14. What music are you listening to right now? Let's bond over some worldly stuff. I'm sure the people here aren't twerking it out to Anaconda and I'm also sure alot of you don't spend all your time listening to kirtan and Gurbani. So what songs are you really into right now? Why so? I'll start it out with this. I love the lyrics and the beat of it. The lyrics have a pretty interesting meaning. There is nothing that they can do, To protect a king and his fool, Caught in the fire, watch it burn, Ash to ash, now it's our turn, Take their kingdom down and smash it to pieces, Turn their feet around, they will be defeated, They will crumble at the sight of our legion, if you want the crown then you've got to break them down. I always got the vibe its an attack on the current establishment, the king being the uncaring government and the fool being the ones who chase after them for power and wealth. The fire is a symbolism of their very greed eventually destroying them and the legion being the people rising up to oppose them.
  15. I would like to discover any gym workout songs that include Sikhi context. Songs such as Gobind de lal etc. Thanks.
  16. WJKKWJKF I am wanting to buy a Nagi portable harmonium and a tanpura but cannot find any links or contact details for Nagi in Patiala. Does anyone know how I could buy a harmonium from Nagi from the UK? WJKKWJKF
  17. Hi All, Please could someone help in explaining the below video to me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wppq-wkQ2zU My punjabi isn't great and I don't understand what the video is about? Thank you
  18. New Youtube channel where kirtan will be uploaded. Just wanted to get the word out so more people get to hear amazing kirtan. There are only a few kirtan channels on youtube that upload multiple times a week so I wanted to add another. Will post mostly AKJ style kirtan of all different kirtanis around the world. Might post kavishri or dhadhi vaaran. Subscribe and share. Videos will be uploaded multiple times a week. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuzAZT8ViP0Cq_JFN1wqjdA
  19. Hi, I like to create/produce music which is a hobby and is sometimes something I make money off. I have a home studio in my room and the acoustics of the room kind of undermine the quality of the production. So I did a bit of research on the internet to see what aspects of a room improve the sound quality and what don't. The conclusion was that the main room me & my family do our prayers in was acoustically the best room in the house. I thought that if I ever use the room that I will always use headphones (the close-back ones so their is no leakage) whenever someone is doing path and only use studio monitors when no one is doing path so it doesn't bother them. There might be more to it than not bothering people who are doing path so I wanted to ask the sangat what their perspective is on the action and what sikhi has said while also providing an explanation.
  20. Looking for a Sikh Gurbani Kirtan teacher Date Listed. 19-Mar-14 Last Edited 19-Mar-14 Address 57 Upper Duke Crescent, Unionville, ON L6G 0B8, Canada Hello, We're looking for a Sikh Gurbani Kirtan teacher (we have a keyboard at home you can use) for a 23 year old autistic female child. Women are preferred as the child is also female. You'll be paid well! If preferred, we can even meet at the nearby Gursikh Sabha Canada Gurudwara instead. Please reply by telling us why you're interested and any experience you may have. Thank you! Source - http://toronto.kijiji.ca/c-services-music-lessons-Looking-for-a-Sikh-Gurbani-Kirtan-teacher-W0QQAdIdZ575916490
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