Two Marriages

[Akaali]

It doesn't matter who said it, its common sense, provide historical reference or keep those opinions to yourself, because they are assumptions of certain individuals, either they don't know history or you are distorting the way they said their point of view.

[Jaspaul Singh]

It doesn't matter who said it, its common sense, provide historical reference or keep those opinions to yourself, because they are assumptions of certain individuals, either they don't know history or you are distorting the way they said their point of view.

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I full agree with Khalsa veerji...

I always thought it of this way that how can guru ji say one thing (abotu in gurbani having two bodies and one soul) and go along marry twice...

Im sorry if i said anything wrong but i agree wit Khalsa veerji. About reference... well we can not prove any side likewise... where is the reference that guru ji had more than one wife instead of people just saying it and making more gurdwaras (which were built much later) ...

... i truly believe guru ji only had one wife. You have to believe this how our indian society works... one may SEE or HEAR one thing and then pass it on to someone ELSE in a whole different sense !! (Clearly known as chugli which our community is best known for where we tend to spread false information about someone to someone else...)

... well i am a moorakh so i dont know anything... veer Khalsa and Sher Punjabi have said it reli well...

bhul chukk maph...

[Gupt daasan daas]

wat r u guys talkin bout

read mahaan kosh

read it

each wife of guru jes jothi oth samae thaan has a different place, there 2 gurughars for physical wives, and 1 more for matha sahib kaur je, spirutual

third source

all jathai have acknolodged this point, EVERYONE KNEW THIS

perhaos people are forgetting the importance of tradtion as well, and oral tradition has some part

its writtewn everywhere, said everywhere this happened

who r we to now say it didnt happen

bhula chuka mad

[naam_jap]

Guru Ji just had one wife.

[Shaheed]

guru ji did not just have one wife, he had 2, one (mata Sahib kaur) was the mother in guru jis darbar, who asked for kids, and when she added patahseh to the bata guru ji promised her thousands upon thousands of kids.

ppl who think, (nooo wayyy guru ji supported poloagamy) also gotta think, guru ji was a KING, not just because of his link as a direct soruce of GOD, but he was a King in the literal sense. He formed policies, goverend lands, made aquisitions. in those timea a kings had many wives...so being kings soo did our gurus. now i have read, that all the gurus were only grist with one of the wives. but i have read GUru Gobind Singh Ji had 3 kids with Mata Sundri, and 1 with Mata Jito (vice versa im confused hehe)

ppl think our guru wouldnt do that, but if u FAITHFULLY believe the gurus had the soul of gurur nanak dev ji, and are 1 with GOd then you KNOW there is no KAAM karodh lobh moh ahankaar so, for the people who say all of us can do it have more then one wife....compare ur self to Gurus (impossible) then try it

and i garentee u those same ppl (UK nangs) who say "ya, mate we can have more then one wife" or watever, ask them if there wife can have more then one husband, and then look at there facial excpresssions......

soo plz dont doubt history cuz u dont approve of it........polyagamy and gurus doesnt match, polagamy = lust and our gurus couldnt have that in them...

[naam_jap]

Its not a question about polygamy or if "the gurus had more then one wife it is correct of us to have more then one also". I believe even if Guru Ji had more then one wife it wouldnt be out of kaam or desire. But its a matter of corretly interpreting history. There have been misinterpretation by people.

When Guru Ji said that mata ji you would have thousands of thousands of children, Guru Ji was meaning the khalsay, the thousands khalsay who took amrit.

[00gurpreet_singh00]

gupt dassan daas,

assuming that Guru Gobind SIngh Ji had more than 1 wife, did all the sahibzadey come from 1 wife, and did guru gobind singh ji re-marry after 1 of the wives died, or was guru gobind Singh Ji married to more than 1 wife at 1 time (not including Mata Sahib Kaur, who was just a "spiritual wife").

also, you keep referencing stuff from historical books, but you dont know for certain if these books are even 100% true, even sooraj prakash says that guru gobind singh ji pierced his ears and that raag mala isnt bani, do you believe that? Both of those things would go against what all the sants of DDT and rara sahib say, and nihangs even say that that is false. So just cuz a historical book says something, doesnt make it true.

and for you refrencing stuff to mahan kosh, look at when that was written, WAYY after the times of guru gobind singh Ji, how did the author know all this stufff? Where did he get his info from?

[Shaheed]

When Guru Ji said that mata ji you would have thousands of thousands of children, Guru Ji was meaning the khalsay, the thousands khalsay who took amrit

yupppppppppppp

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[Gupt daasan daas]

gurpreet singh je

i agree wit ub comeltly

we cant JSUT look at historical texts

thas y i said ask mahaan sants like baba gurchan singh je, who int heir book said guru je had more than one wife

and its no only in texts

theres also more than one gurughar

thas y we have sants

to help guide us

ask any mahaan mahatma

they all said guru je had more than one wife

or at least the vaaaast majority of them

where do we get our info from?

there is a thing called from generation to generation

just like ure dad will tell u about ure great grandpa

thas y i asked samprdhamas from guru jes times

all sources lead to saying guru je ad more than one wife

oral histrory

sants

texts

gurugharss

one cud be flawed, but not all of them

bhula chuka maf

[Shaheed]

given time, any oral tradition can be VASTLY flaweddd