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If God can create a rock too heavy to lift, then he is not omnipotent because he cannot lift a certain rock.

If God cannot create a rock too heavy to lift, then he is not omnipotent because he is unable to create a certain rock. .

huhh explain that in depth cus im quite facinated

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It is a lose lose siutaion. As i said in my first post, it is logical loop-hole. The question itself is invalid because its like asking whether god can do soemthing he cannot do.

here this will end this topic:

http://www.abarnett.demon.co.uk/atheism/rock.html

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hey ppl, im sorry but y start such a pointless and stupid thread???

we all know god has no limitations

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is the question pointless, yes and this coulnd't have been deteremined without someone asking the question. Is this thread Stupid, No, because again without the original question there would not be the conclusion of this question being pointlesss. wacko.gif

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Hehe, where are you lot getting these mind puzzler questions!

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well.. let's take it to a gurbani context

Koor Raaja, Koor Parja KOOR SABH SANSAAR

Koor Sabh Sansaar would basically be saying that the entire world is falsehood.... but this is where i get confused... The world exists under ONLY god's hukam... Hukam is the reason behind everything, but then, if God was only truth, why would his Hukam not be truth..

Yet guruji tells us that our world is a ball of falseness, that TRUTH has created..

See, i can see an arguement coming that "well if God created it, how can it possibly be false!", yet, Guruji is telling us that our world is false...

whether it be through the word "mithiaa" or through "Koor" or any other word to describe false, and fake, in the end, everything is done by God, right.... so although we say that God is Truth...... His Name is Truth... Everything that HE does is GREAT.... this would imply that God can only be the good.... yet the very world He has created for us is false....

does that make sense? i mean...do you see where my confusion is coming from?

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Japman ji I m not sure whether this will help or not but when guru ji said

"Koor Raaja, Koor Parja KOOR SABH SANSAAR"

also in asa ki vaar guru ji said

"

sachay tayray khand sachay barahmand.

sachay tayray lo-a sachay aakaar.

sachay tayray karnay sarab beechaar.

sachaa tayraa amar sachaa deebaan.

sachaa tayraa hukam sachaa furmaan.

sachaa tayraa karam sachaa neesaan.

sachay tuDh aakhahi lakh karorh.

sachai sabh taan sachai sabh jor.

sachee tayree sifat sachee saalaah.

sachee tayree kudrat sachay paatisaah.

naanak sach Dhi-aa-in sach.

jo mar jammay so kach nikach. ||1||

These statements are not contradictory but they are two different ways to look at God's creation.

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nowwwwwww we're talkin!!!

yet further proof, i guess..that God is beyond any qualitative description?

The statement that "God is Truth, BUT False as well" is true, but it doesn't matter! God is Nothing, and God is Everything, all at once! (i don't mean that disrespectfully), and oddly enough, at the same time, God is Neither?!

haha, this is beautiful!! this is GREAT! It shows that our mind is not really capable of taking in the Greatness of Vaheguruuuuuu! No matter how much we try to understand it, it's never-ending... you may think that God is 400 times great, and then, you'll learn something new, and the'll be 401 times great!

fabulous!

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