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Lust is like loving someones body parts, like you are lusting after their flesh, for example you Love your mom, but you dont lust for her? lol

By attachment it could meat matterialistic things, or even a human being, say if one of your loved ones die, and you cant even go on living cause you are attached to them, so you should only love them, but be ready to let go.

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A lot of people say Kaam (Lust) and Kraudh (Anger) is connected to each other closely - and mostly during youth - why are they connected kaam and kraudh??

Sorry for my ignorance, bhull chuk maarf!!!

Thanks!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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OBSESSIVE sexual desire?

veer je can u tell me wat this means

btw if im wrong, maafee, im stil learning, im a moorkh

Awsw mhlw 5 ]

aasaa mehalaa 5 ||

Aasaa, Fifth Mehl:

inmK kwm suAwd kwrix koit idns duKu pwvih ]

nimakh kaam suaadh kaaran kott dhinas dhukh paavehi ||

For a moment of sexual pleasure, you shall suffer in pain for millions of days.

GrI muhq rMg mwxih iPir bhuir bhuir pCuqwvih ]1]

gharee muhath ra(n)g maanehi fir bahur bahur pashhuthaavehi ||1||

For an instant, you may savor pleasure, but afterwards, you shall regret it, again and again. ||1||

AMDy cyiq hir hir rwieAw ]

a(n)dhhae chaeth har har raaeiaa ||

O blind man, meditate on the Lord, the Lord, your King.

qyrw so idnu nyVY AwieAw ]1] rhwau ]

thaeraa so dhin naerrai aaeiaa ||1|| rehaao ||

Your day is drawing near. ||1||Pause||

plk idRsit dyiK BUlo Awk nIm ko qUMmru ]

palak dhrisatt dhaekh bhoolo aak neem ko thoo(n)mar ||

You are deceived, beholding with your eyes, the bitter melon and swallow-wort.

jYsw sMgu ibsIAr isau hY ry qYso hI iehu pr igRhu ]2]

jaisaa sa(n)g biseear sio hai rae thaiso hee eihu par grihu ||2||

But, like the companionship of a poisonous snake, so is the desire for another's spouse. ||2||

bYrI kwrix pwp krqw bsqu rhI Amwnw ]

bairee kaaran paap karathaa basath rehee amaanaa ||

For the sake of your enemy, you commit sins, while you neglect the reality of your faith.

Coif jwih iqn hI isau sMgI swjn isau bYrwnw ]3]

shhodd jaahi thin hee sio sa(n)gee saajan sio bairaanaa ||3||

Your friendship is with those who abandon you, and you are angry with your friends . ||3||

sgl sMswru iehY ibiD ibAwipE so aubirE ijsu guru pUrw ]

sagal sa(n)saar eihai bidhh biaapiou so oubariou jis gur pooraa ||

The entire world is entangled in this way; he alone is saved, who has the Perfect Guru.

khu nwnk Bv swgru qirE Bey punIq srIrw ]4]5]127]

kahu naanak bhav saagar thariou bheae puneeth sareeraa ||4||5||127||

Says Nanak, I have crossed over the terrifying world-ocean; my body has become sanctified. ||4||5||127||

if its only obsession, then y even a second is not allowed?

i understand wa u sayin in marrige and stuff

but kaam is any type of that kind of desire that wells up in ure body

be it for ure wife, another lady, w/e

the only thing is with ure wife its not tha big deal, she ure wife

but kaam still steals ure amrit and bhagthee

no matter whos it with

but its a bujjar kureight if not with ure spouse

love is pure pyaar

u just love them

there really no reason

love cannot be defined

and the only tru pyaar that wil last forever is with akaal

but pyaar with people is great since vaheguru resides in all and everything

attachment is being attached to something

i remeber a veer or bhen gae a good example if u lose a loved one or something, u are sad

u shudnt be

if u lose anything

and u truly have NO attachment

u will not be sad

but this is like a brahm giani avastha, to become totally detached from kaam, krodh, lobh, moh, ahankaar

from dukh AND sukh

to be attached to nothing

to only jaap naam just cause u love god

thas the only thing u want

its a extremly hard avastha to get to

few do reach it

but the ones who do are the most rare and blessed peple on this earth, and are a blessing to us as well

bhula chuka maf

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wts the difference between...

..lust

...attachment

..love

???

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Hopefully this will help you out in understanding the difference b/w lust, attachment, and love.

Many times, a man considers “Attachment” as “love”. Amongst the many games of life, the game of “love “ is most difficult and expensive. For the game of love, there exist many different fields. Just like, the games that are played in the world, some games are played on the college level, some on the state level and others on the country level. They all have their own standards and carry their own values. According to that standard, the player is honoured and rewarded. Some players play individuals games and other play in their teams and these players not only play for themselves but also their respective teams as a whole. If the players are playing for their college teams, they are playing for winning for their respective college teams; if they are playing for their Inter-State competition, then each player is considered more valuable and their win or loss is the win or loss for their respective State. However, if the player is playing for the National team, then he represents his own country. In that country, there live many people, who have never played any game and the player, then, for the sake of people of his country, does his utmost best for the win, because how well this player plays with his classic style, becomes a pride and joy for each of his countrymen. Whereas each person of that country takes a great pride, how well that particular player displayed his talents, similarly, his Government also bestows honors and awards upon that player, who shines playing such a talented game. Thus, the same story goes for playing the game of “Attachment” and “Love”, in some one’s life. THE SPHERE OF “ ATTACHMENT” The person who has attachment with his houses and mansions and with the high honors and prestigious government positions, scarifies his peace of mind, respect and honor of his family and as well as of his friends. Forgetting all his responsibilities towards his family and faithfulness of his friendship and for having a complete control of wealth, even adopts such means as to kill his brothers and becomes unfaithful to his parents. One becomes traitor to his country for the sake of attaining honors, ministerial positions and hoarding the wealth. Many times, a man loves his family and to take care of family needs, he spends all his energies to serve them better. This is all-- what is known as the sphere of “Attachment”. In “attachment”, there remains a claim that what is there is all mine and having such a claim, there is a problematic ego, therefore, the Guru shuns accepting the “Attacment”. The Guru calls the “Attachment”, as a sticky mud.

An “Attachment” is a possession and the “love” is a sacrifice. The world is, therefore, in the sphere of “Attachment” and there is a God, in the sphere of “Love”.

“Attachment” and “ Love”, both have different perceptions and feelings, but their ways and means of playing the game is about the same. A man who has attachment or to whom he loves, devotes and centres all his energies towards that person. For example, a man for himself or taking care four or five members of his family or having the possessions of wealth, mansion and properties becomes a circle of “Attachment”, for that person. Similarly, a patriot or lover of his country, sacrifices all he has for the sake of his country and in turn, the nation bestows honor upon him and is proud of that person. Similarly, the circle of his “Love” keeps on enlarging. Then, when he wants to play the game of “Love”, in a biggest play field, that is called love for God. The management of this field is in the hands of God; the entry fee to play in this field is to offer your head that means to completely surrender yourself by eliminating your selfish desires and ways.

herefore, the circle of God’s lover also gets enlarged and bigger. God’s lover, then, offers and devotes all his energies and possessions for the service and benefit of mankind and sees God in each and every soul. Not considering the caste, creed or color and not considering the difference between the rich and poor and between him and the stranger, and the one, who sacrifices all for the service of humanity, is to be called, then, God’s lover.

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A lot of people say Kaam (Lust) and Kraudh (Anger) is connected to each other closely - and mostly during youth - why are they connected kaam and kraudh??

Sorry for my ignorance, bhull chuk maarf!!!

Thanks!

Waheguru Ji Ka Khalsa, Waheguru Ji Ki Fateh!

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this is the wildest guess but il say my dum guess.

maybe when u have kaam but u cant fulfil ur desire u get frustrated so it comes out in krodhh grin.gif dunno but thats a guess.

apart from that i think a guy who has krodhin youth usually has the same anger as adults so i dunno if the 2 are really connected in any other way.

but personally me thinks krodh is never more or less only when u get old u got less energy to shout .

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